I-751 filled it on time. Will they reject it?

[Mike E 11,722]

10 hours ago, ra0010 said:

People need to take the chill pill and not send the package on the exact same date the window opens. It’s not like you’re deportable anyways!

How many days should people wait? 
 

Presumably waiting 90 days is not advised.  Apparently waiting 0 days is not ok.  
 

So the number is 1 to 89 days inclusive.  Which one of those numbers is THE numbe?
 

I really want to know what the number is and the basis for that number.  

Thanks.  

[arken 4,197]

For mails, i don't think it matters if one ships the package even one day before the 90 day early period unless same day delivery method was chosen. 
 

The only issue with online filing is where people filed on the very first say and due to the software glitch, it's treated as filed one day early for several people if not all. 

[Rocio0010 5,560]

11 minutes ago, Mike E said:

How many days should people wait? 
 

Presumably waiting 90 days is not advised.  Apparently waiting 0 days is not ok.  
 

So the number is 1 to 89 days inclusive.  Which one of those numbers is THE numbe?
 

I really want to know what the number is and the basis for that number.  

Thanks.  

There is a in- between 0 and 90 days. I am not saying we need to wait 90 days. But sending it a few days earlier risks that USCIS will get it too early and thus it will get rejected. Then you would have to send it again and it would actually delay you. I would wait 3-4 days after the window opens. 

[Mike E 11,722]

2 minutes ago, arken said:

For mails, i don't think it matters if one ships the package even one day before the 90 day early period unless same day delivery method was chosen. 
 

The only issue with online filing is where people filed on the very first say and due to the software glitch, it's treated as filed one day early for several people if not all. 

There is no online method to file I-751 afaik.  

 

Thus I’m at a total loss here.  What is the point of the victim shaming in this thread again?

[arken 4,197]

Just now, Mike E said:

There is no online method to file I-751 afaik.  

 

Thus I’m at a total loss here.  What is the point of the victim shaming in this thread again?

Whoever is talking about issues due to filing on the same day is based on N400 early online filing debacle. Yeah i meant those issues from n400early online filing.

 

For filing via mail, definitely it shouldn't be an issue as long as the carrier doesn't deliver it one day early.

[Mike E 11,722]

4 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

There is a in- between 0 and 90 days. I am not saying we need to wait 90 days. But sending it a few days earlier risks that USCIS will get it too early and thus it will get rejected. Then you would have to send it again and it would actually delay you. I would wait 3-4 days after the window opens. 

3-4 lacks conviction.  
 

Is it 3 days or is it 4 days?

 

And what is the basis for your number?

 

And if someone posted that they waited until 86 days before their green card expired and USCIS denied erroneously the claim because it is filed too early would you blame that person?

[Mike E 11,722]

7 minutes ago, arken said:

Whoever is talking about issues due to filing on the same day is based on N400 early online filing debacle. Yeah i meant those issues from n400early online filing.

 

For filing via mail, definitely it shouldn't be an issue as long as the carrier doesn't deliver it one day early.

Here is the title of the thread we are in:

 

”I-751 filled it on time. Will they reject it?”

 

there is indeed an active N-400 thread where there was an online filing at exactly 90 days that uscis time stamped as 91 days.  
 

I am asking about I-751s.  Which are fine by mail. And people here have claimed or implied that one is foolish to file in day 90, 89, 88, 87, and others.  
 

So I am trying to nail down the day that one can file and if USCIS rejects it as an early filing, one won’t be shamed for doing so.  

 

 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Mike E

[Rocio0010 5,560]

14 minutes ago, Mike E said:

So I am trying to nail down the day that one can file and if USCIS rejects it as an early filing, one won’t be shamed for doing so.  

Nobody shamed nobody. Just gave my personal opinion that people need to calm down and wait a few days to avoid stressing out. 
A denial on the 86 day would not be erroneous. You have to wait until 90 days.

[Mike E 11,722]

36 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

Nobody shamed nobody.

we disagree. 

36 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

Just gave my personal opinion that people need to calm down

IOW filing 90 days before the gc expires is not calm. Per a dictionary this would be:  Agitated. Disturbed.  Perturbed.  Upset.  
 

These are labels that shame those who want to get a task done on time.  
 

36 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

 

and wait a few days to avoid stressing out. 
A denial on the 86 day would not be erroneous.

I am dumb founded.  
 

If I filed 86 days before my gc expires, and USCIS denies me because I filed early that is not erroneous.  
 

36 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

 

 

You have to wait until 90 days.

But filing at 90 days is not calm. 
 

I am at a loss.  

[Mike E 11,722]

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

I am not saying we need to wait 90 days.

agreed. 

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

But sending it a few days earlier risks that USCIS will get it too early and thus it will get rejected.

agreed.  

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

I would wait 3-4 days after the window opens. 

I cannot follow that logic.  Are you worried that if something is sent 90 days before the gc expires that it will arrive 91 days before the gc arrives? If not why are you advising 3-4 days? And when you you wait 3 days versus 4 days?

[Rocio0010 5,560]

14 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I cannot follow that logic.  Are you worried that if something is sent 90 days before the gc expires that it will arrive 91 days before the gc arrives? If not why are you advising 3-4 days? And when you you wait 3 days versus 4 days?

If you send it 90 days before and it arrives on day 91, then it should be fine. But I am saying that sometimes people send it 93 days before the expiration, it gets to USCIS 92 days before and then they send it back. It is not so hard to understand I believe. In order to avoid this and be on the SAFER side, I would suggest waiting 3-4 days before mailing it. 3-4 days is an estimate, there is nothing special about sending it on the 3rd vs 4th day. Take that, 5 or 6. The point is that to me, one should avoid mailing it with the hopes it gets there on day 90. Sometimes the carrier delivers before, then there's a rejection, resubmit, and that actually delays the process. 

Of course, people can and will do whatever they want to. 

[Mike E 11,722]

27 minutes ago, ra0010 said:

If you send it 90 days before and it arrives on day 91,

 

Unless you are sending  this certain times of day from an airport on the western pacific ocean on nonstop flight to Phoenix how is that  possible? Are you claiming time travel? 
 

 

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then it should be fine.

You are saying it is fine if USCIS receives it a day early? No. Just no.  
 

 

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But I am saying that sometimes people send it 93 days before the expiration, it gets to USCIS 92 days before and then they send it back.

so don’t do that. 
 

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It is not so hard to understand I believe.

Thus far you are batting 0.500 on your post in that regard.  
 

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In order to avoid this and be on the SAFER side, I would suggest waiting 3-4 days before mailing it.

IOW instead of sending it 93 days before the gc expires, you are saying send it 86 days before the gc expires.  
 

And I am asking: why isn’t sending it 90 days or even 89 days before the gc expires safe?  What is your fixation with 86 days before the gc expires?

 

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3-4 days is an estimate, there is nothing special about sending it on the 3rd vs 4th day. Take that, 5 or 6. The point is that to me, one should avoid mailing it with the hopes it gets there on day 90. Sometimes the carrier delivers before, then there's a rejection, resubmit, and that actually delays the process. 

You are implying that stuff sent on a certain date can arrive days before  it was sent. You are not explaining how that is possible.  

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Of course, people can and will do whatever they want to. 

Yes and get blamed when they send it at 90 days before the gc expires and the application is rejected erroneously for being filed too soon. 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Mike E

[Rocio0010 5,560]

4 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Unless you are adding this certain times of day from an airport on the western pacific ocean on nonstop flight to Phoenix how is that  possible? Are you claiming time travel? 

Meaning, if you send it on day 92 and it arrives on day 91... Are you being argumentative for no reason?

 

7 minutes ago, Mike E said:

so don’t do that.

Believe it or not, people still do it.

 

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

send it 86 days before the gc expires.

Correct.

 

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

why isn’t sending it 90 days or even 89 days before the gc expires safe.  What is your fixation with 86 days before the gc expires?

Just told you, there is nothing special about the 86 day. I am saying send it after the 90 day window opens.

 

11 minutes ago, Mike E said:

You are implying that stuff send on certain date can arrive days before  it was sent. You are not explaining how that is possible.

Read above my reply. Sending it before the 90 day window opens (some people send it 5 days before) and expecting it to arrive on the 90 day mark is risky because it can arrive before. 

[Mike E 11,722]

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

Are you being argumentative for no reason?

 I have a reason.

 

I am trying to pin those who say “do not file  90 days before the gc arrives” to a specific day and then get them to justify that day. 

 

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

 

Believe it or not, people still do it.

yeah not relevant  to my question. 

 

1 hour ago, ra0010 said:

Just told you, there is nothing special about the 86 day. I am saying send it after the 90 day window opens.

so is sending it 90 days before the gc expires your recommendation?

 

If so, great.  
 

If not, why not?

[dwheels76 5,459]

4 hours ago, Mike E said:

I am asking about I-751s.  Which are fine by mail. And people here have claimed or implied that one is foolish to file in day 90, 89, 88, 87, and others.  

 

 

So I am trying to nail down the day that one can file and if USCIS rejects it as an early filing, one won’t be shamed for doing so.  

 

 

You are looking for an arbitrary number that really doesn't exist. You file when you are ready and within your 90 days.

 

Human Beings make mistakes many people have had petitions rejected or worst got all the way to a interview and petition denied because they said "You filed to early" when it wasn't the case.

 

Just make sure it's 90 days from expiry and make sure you don;t mail before the 90 days. I have seen people not even use Overnight and it arrived on 90th day. I don't know if USCIS goes by date mailed or date received so why not be safe and mail a few days past date.

 

Also many people like I said before get 90 days and 3 months mixed up and think it's the same thing. That's why the I-751 calculator is vital.

If you have got your receipt letter you should not be worrying about be rejected because instead you would have gotten the reject we are returning everything letter number.