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I just got my package back. It says "Signature of person preparing the form, if other than above" block is not a valid signature. I left it blank while printing and wrote N/A along with on all the other blank fields. Should I have left it blank?  

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    1. Package sent to USCIS : 06/09/2019 
    2. Package received by USCIS : 06/13/2019
    3. NOA date from USCIS: 06/18/2019
    4. Text/Email notices sent : 06/20/2019
    5. Physical Notices mailed : 06/19/2019
    6. FingerPrint notice sent : 06/25/2019
    7. FingerPrint notice scheduled : 07/11/2019
    8. FingerPrint Walk-in:  07/02/2019
    9. FingerPrint Review Completed:  07/02/2019 and 07/04/2019. For some reason, it's listed twice. 
    10. RFE 1: 08/19/2019: RFE email notification. 08/23/2019: Physical mail received.
    11. RFE Response received by USCIS:  08/26/2019
    12. NOA date from USCIS for RFE receipt: 08/28/2019
    13. Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview: 09/05/2019
    14. Interview was scheduled: Email on 09/12/2019 
    15. EAD expedite requested: 09/24/2019
    16. Status change to Expedite Request Received: 09/26/2019 ( Made a request as I had to accept a job offer ASAP!)
    17. Case History Updates: 09/27/2019
      1. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was assigned to an officer for response.
      2. On September 27, 2019, we sent a response to your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX
      3. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was completed.
    18. Faxed evidence for EAD expedite: 10/07/2019
    19. AP/EAD Text/Email approval : 10/18/2019 ( Don't think it's because of the expedite)
    20. AP/EAD Physical cards mailed : 10/22/2019
    21. Interview Date: 10/22/2019
    22. I-485 approved : 10/22/2019
    23. GC card mailed : 10/28/2019

     

ROC

  1. I-751 sent to USCIS: 08/25/2021
  2. Package received by USCIS : 08/30/2021
  3. Received package back from USCIS due to form processing error: 09/07/2021
  4. Mailed new application to USCIS: 09/07/2021
  5. Package received by USCIS : 09/09/2021
  6. Received text for receipt#: 09/11/2021 (Dated 09/10/2021)
  7. Check cashed: 09/14/2021
  8. Received letter about Biometrics waiver: 10/25/2021
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6 minutes ago, BlueGatorGamer said:

I just got my package back. It says "Signature of person preparing the form, if other than above" block is not a valid signature. I left it blank while printing and wrote N/A along with on all the other blank fields. Should I have left it blank?  

Example of form I-751 filled in from VJ: https://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-I-751.pdf

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1 minute ago, SoCal2021 said:

Example of form I-751 filled in from VJ: https://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-I-751.pdf

Do we have leave those empty fields as is without filing in N/A ? I signed in part 7 and my spouse signed in part 8

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    1. Package sent to USCIS : 06/09/2019 
    2. Package received by USCIS : 06/13/2019
    3. NOA date from USCIS: 06/18/2019
    4. Text/Email notices sent : 06/20/2019
    5. Physical Notices mailed : 06/19/2019
    6. FingerPrint notice sent : 06/25/2019
    7. FingerPrint notice scheduled : 07/11/2019
    8. FingerPrint Walk-in:  07/02/2019
    9. FingerPrint Review Completed:  07/02/2019 and 07/04/2019. For some reason, it's listed twice. 
    10. RFE 1: 08/19/2019: RFE email notification. 08/23/2019: Physical mail received.
    11. RFE Response received by USCIS:  08/26/2019
    12. NOA date from USCIS for RFE receipt: 08/28/2019
    13. Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview: 09/05/2019
    14. Interview was scheduled: Email on 09/12/2019 
    15. EAD expedite requested: 09/24/2019
    16. Status change to Expedite Request Received: 09/26/2019 ( Made a request as I had to accept a job offer ASAP!)
    17. Case History Updates: 09/27/2019
      1. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was assigned to an officer for response.
      2. On September 27, 2019, we sent a response to your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX
      3. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was completed.
    18. Faxed evidence for EAD expedite: 10/07/2019
    19. AP/EAD Text/Email approval : 10/18/2019 ( Don't think it's because of the expedite)
    20. AP/EAD Physical cards mailed : 10/22/2019
    21. Interview Date: 10/22/2019
    22. I-485 approved : 10/22/2019
    23. GC card mailed : 10/28/2019

     

ROC

  1. I-751 sent to USCIS: 08/25/2021
  2. Package received by USCIS : 08/30/2021
  3. Received package back from USCIS due to form processing error: 09/07/2021
  4. Mailed new application to USCIS: 09/07/2021
  5. Package received by USCIS : 09/09/2021
  6. Received text for receipt#: 09/11/2021 (Dated 09/10/2021)
  7. Check cashed: 09/14/2021
  8. Received letter about Biometrics waiver: 10/25/2021
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5 minutes ago, BlueGatorGamer said:

Do we have leave those empty fields as is without filing in N/A ? I signed in part 7 and my spouse signed in part 8

Yes.  Leave all the other fields blank.  That is what we are doing.  

 

 

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17 hours ago, BlueGatorGamer said:

I just got my package back. It says "Signature of person preparing the form, if other than above" block is not a valid signature. I left it blank while printing and wrote N/A along with on all the other blank fields. Should I have left it blank?  

We can't send our I-751 for another two weeks, but I checked our AOS application and our I-129F to see what we did. We wrote in N/A for everything except the signature, which we left blank. Our applications were all accepted without any RFEs, so I'll be doing it this way again.

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9 hours ago, Barbara99 said:

If there is no middle name, N/A or blank ?

If there are no kids, you leave all the children section blank or N/A ?

If there is no interpreter/lawyer you leave it blank or N/A ?

If you don't fill anything on page 11, you leave it blank or N/A at name and so on ?

 

I would choose N/A for all all.

I left them blank for AOS and will most likely leave them blank for ROC.  There are several cases of people that received notices with none/na as middle names.

 

When I fill out an USCIS form, I see sections. If a whole section is not applicable (like the interpreter and lawyer) skip the whole section. (With the exception of middle name, always leave that blank if no middle name).

 

When all forms go digital, that's how it's gonna work. The other day someone posted that they wrote "none" on the middle name field on the online form and the receipt generated immediately after submission had First None Last as name.

 

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10 hours ago, Barbara99 said:

If there is no middle name, N/A or blank ?

If there are no kids, you leave all the children section blank or N/A ?

If there is no interpreter/lawyer you leave it blank or N/A ?

If you don't fill anything on page 11, you leave it blank or N/A at name and so on ?

 

I would choose N/A for all all.

 

 

Blank, unless you want your middle name on your card to be N/A

I left all spaces that do not relate to me blank. Did that at AOS, ROC and N400. I had no issues 

Immigration journey is not: fast, for the faint at heart, easy, cheap, for the impatient nor right away. If more than 50% of this applies to you, best get off the bus.

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Blank blank blank blank

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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Submitted again with all blanks. Had no issue when filing I-765 with N/As.

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    1. Package sent to USCIS : 06/09/2019 
    2. Package received by USCIS : 06/13/2019
    3. NOA date from USCIS: 06/18/2019
    4. Text/Email notices sent : 06/20/2019
    5. Physical Notices mailed : 06/19/2019
    6. FingerPrint notice sent : 06/25/2019
    7. FingerPrint notice scheduled : 07/11/2019
    8. FingerPrint Walk-in:  07/02/2019
    9. FingerPrint Review Completed:  07/02/2019 and 07/04/2019. For some reason, it's listed twice. 
    10. RFE 1: 08/19/2019: RFE email notification. 08/23/2019: Physical mail received.
    11. RFE Response received by USCIS:  08/26/2019
    12. NOA date from USCIS for RFE receipt: 08/28/2019
    13. Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview: 09/05/2019
    14. Interview was scheduled: Email on 09/12/2019 
    15. EAD expedite requested: 09/24/2019
    16. Status change to Expedite Request Received: 09/26/2019 ( Made a request as I had to accept a job offer ASAP!)
    17. Case History Updates: 09/27/2019
      1. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was assigned to an officer for response.
      2. On September 27, 2019, we sent a response to your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX
      3. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was completed.
    18. Faxed evidence for EAD expedite: 10/07/2019
    19. AP/EAD Text/Email approval : 10/18/2019 ( Don't think it's because of the expedite)
    20. AP/EAD Physical cards mailed : 10/22/2019
    21. Interview Date: 10/22/2019
    22. I-485 approved : 10/22/2019
    23. GC card mailed : 10/28/2019

     

ROC

  1. I-751 sent to USCIS: 08/25/2021
  2. Package received by USCIS : 08/30/2021
  3. Received package back from USCIS due to form processing error: 09/07/2021
  4. Mailed new application to USCIS: 09/07/2021
  5. Package received by USCIS : 09/09/2021
  6. Received text for receipt#: 09/11/2021 (Dated 09/10/2021)
  7. Check cashed: 09/14/2021
  8. Received letter about Biometrics waiver: 10/25/2021
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21 hours ago, BlueGatorGamer said:

I just got my package back. It says "Signature of person preparing the form, if other than above" block is not a valid signature. I left it blank while printing and wrote N/A along with on all the other blank fields. Should I have left it blank?  

So you're saying that you and your wife signed where you were supposed to, but you wrote in "N/A" for the preparers signature and they kicked it out as invalid?

 

The only thing I can think of is that when they scanned that page it's algorithm is looking for a signature or no signature in that box, and it kicked out as an invalid entry.

 

Writing in "N/A" should have been fine since you both signed in the proper places. 

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1 minute ago, hendo25 said:

So you're saying that you and your wife signed where you were supposed to, but you wrote in "N/A" for the preparers signature and they kicked it out as invalid?

 

The only thing I can think of is that when they scanned that page it's algorithm is looking for a signature or no signature in that box, and it kicked out as an invalid entry.

 

Writing in "N/A" should have been fine since you both signed in the proper places. 

Yeah, as I could see there was no issue with my application. Submitted a very similar application for I-765 and had no issues then. I just left them all blank this time. 

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    1. Package sent to USCIS : 06/09/2019 
    2. Package received by USCIS : 06/13/2019
    3. NOA date from USCIS: 06/18/2019
    4. Text/Email notices sent : 06/20/2019
    5. Physical Notices mailed : 06/19/2019
    6. FingerPrint notice sent : 06/25/2019
    7. FingerPrint notice scheduled : 07/11/2019
    8. FingerPrint Walk-in:  07/02/2019
    9. FingerPrint Review Completed:  07/02/2019 and 07/04/2019. For some reason, it's listed twice. 
    10. RFE 1: 08/19/2019: RFE email notification. 08/23/2019: Physical mail received.
    11. RFE Response received by USCIS:  08/26/2019
    12. NOA date from USCIS for RFE receipt: 08/28/2019
    13. Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview: 09/05/2019
    14. Interview was scheduled: Email on 09/12/2019 
    15. EAD expedite requested: 09/24/2019
    16. Status change to Expedite Request Received: 09/26/2019 ( Made a request as I had to accept a job offer ASAP!)
    17. Case History Updates: 09/27/2019
      1. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was assigned to an officer for response.
      2. On September 27, 2019, we sent a response to your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX
      3. On September 27, 2019, your request to have your case expedited, referral number XXXXXX, was completed.
    18. Faxed evidence for EAD expedite: 10/07/2019
    19. AP/EAD Text/Email approval : 10/18/2019 ( Don't think it's because of the expedite)
    20. AP/EAD Physical cards mailed : 10/22/2019
    21. Interview Date: 10/22/2019
    22. I-485 approved : 10/22/2019
    23. GC card mailed : 10/28/2019

     

ROC

  1. I-751 sent to USCIS: 08/25/2021
  2. Package received by USCIS : 08/30/2021
  3. Received package back from USCIS due to form processing error: 09/07/2021
  4. Mailed new application to USCIS: 09/07/2021
  5. Package received by USCIS : 09/09/2021
  6. Received text for receipt#: 09/11/2021 (Dated 09/10/2021)
  7. Check cashed: 09/14/2021
  8. Received letter about Biometrics waiver: 10/25/2021
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1 minute ago, BlueGatorGamer said:

Yeah, as I could see there was no issue with my application. Submitted a very similar application for I-765 and had no issues then. I just left them all blank this time. 

Yes, I think it was just a computer error that a person didn't catch, but should have. They tell you in the instructions to us "N/A" if something doesn't apply to you, but the "signature" slots may be handled differently by their scanning systems. Once the scanner sees something in one of those boxes, it wants to see a traditional signature of some kind...N/A doesn't fit the profile. That error should have been caught by someone, especially since you and your wife had signed in the proper places.

 

Good luck with your re-submission....

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