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28 minutes ago, Adventine said:

Sure, if OP really wants the route Manila-Tokyo-US city for some reason, it's possible right now. 

 

But why go with that option when there are direct/nonstop flights from Manila to the US? This option eliminates any risk of dealing with future travel restrictions related to the transit country, gets the wife on US soil ASAP, and gives OP some peace of mind. 

 

Why make things harder than they have to be?

Maybe he wants to save $150. There have been several stories of people transiting through Japan (never leaving the airport) for 2 hours with zero issues. 

 

Why does everyone think Japan is going to cause an issue? There have been zero reports of problems with Japan. There have only been successful stories. 

 

He can do whatever he wants. His original post was trying to decipher what "entering Japan" means. His wife will not be quarantined for a layover. No PCR test is required either. His Guam option adds another 12 hours to the trip. Why not take a shorter route that's less expensive than direct?  

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2 hours ago, user555 said:

That's because Spain is part of Schengen, and the US is banning Schengen countries right now. 

Ahh, Yea,  my point was the airline allowed the passenger to fly into Spain n the first leg, but he was stopped there, and he was forced to return home.  In other words, you can't trust the airline employees to know all the current restrictions for every country.

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November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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49 minutes ago, user555 said:

Why not take a shorter route that's less expensive than direct?  

Direct is always better, although it might cost more.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, user555 said:

Maybe he wants to save $150. There have been several stories of people transiting through Japan (never leaving the airport) for 2 hours with zero issues. 

 

Why does everyone think Japan is going to cause an issue? There have been zero reports of problems with Japan. There have only been successful stories. 

 

He can do whatever he wants. His original post was trying to decipher what "entering Japan" means. His wife will not be quarantined for a layover. No PCR test is required either. His Guam option adds another 12 hours to the trip. Why not take a shorter route that's less expensive than direct?  

 

Because nobody can predict if Japan's travel restrictions will change between now and the OP's preferred travel date. Japan transits have not been a problem so far, but with constantly changing travel restrictions, is it worth the risk? This is why it's been suggested as an option.

 

Do we even know for sure if the non-stop flight really will be more expensive? OP may be able to travel hack it and pay less through points or credit card rewards.

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15 hours ago, Adventine said:

Plenty of excellent advice already in this thread.

 

But to avoid all the stress and hassle, as well as the risk of travel restrictions suddenly changing between now and the travel date, why not just get a direct/nonstop flight Manila-Los Angeles or Manila-San Francisco, then a domestic flight to the final destination? May be more expensive but worth the peace of mind to get your wife on US soil without passing through a third country.

Only airlines that does that is PAL. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, user555 said:

Maybe he wants to save $150. There have been several stories of people transiting through Japan (never leaving the airport) for 2 hours with zero issues. 

 

Why does everyone think Japan is going to cause an issue? There have been zero reports of problems with Japan. There have only been successful stories. 

 

He can do whatever he wants. His original post was trying to decipher what "entering Japan" means. His wife will not be quarantined for a layover. No PCR test is required either. His Guam option adds another 12 hours to the trip. Why not take a shorter route that's less expensive than direct?  

Correct on all points

 

There is no qaurantine in Japan for passengers transiting

 

 

 

 

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And as long as she is prepared to sleep in the transit area in the event of any missed connection /delay in outbound flight so as not to have enter Japan (I have twice had unexpected overnight stays in transit countries on what should have been routine connections with plenty of time, once due to weather and once due to technical issues)

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3 hours ago, Adventine said:

Sure, if OP really wants the route Manila-Tokyo-US city for some reason, it's possible right now. 

 

But why go with that option when there are direct/nonstop flights from Manila to the US? This option eliminates any risk of dealing with future travel restrictions related to the transit country, gets the wife on US soil ASAP, and gives OP some peace of mind. 

 

Why make things harder than they have to be?

Why 

 

1) LAX Is a ghetto airport

 

2.) Depends on his final destination it may be better to Manila - Tokoyo - US city (espceially if it is his final destination).

 

3.) There is no quarantine in Japan if you are transitioning.  

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1 minute ago, Allovertheworld said:

1) LAX Is a ghetto airport

That is a term which unfamiliar to me.  What does it mean?  

BTW, I really, really like Narita.......

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, Lucky Cat said:

That is a term which unfamiliar to me.  What does it mean?  

BTW, I really, really like Narita.......

Narita is awesome, I spend time in the Delta lounge, excellent food and drinks

 

Ghetto is trashy.  Last time I went thru LAX the airport was like being in a 3rd world country, it was dirty, crowded and generally a dump, and I found the staff to be rude.

 

   SFO is outstanding.  If I have to fly to the west coast coming or going to Philippines  from Texas I will not go to LAX

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5 minutes ago, Allovertheworld said:

Narita is awesome, I spend time in the Delta lounge, excellent food and drinks

 

Ghetto is trashy.  Last time I went thru LAX the airport was like being in a 3rd world country, it was dirty, crowded and generally a dump, and I found the staff to be rude.

 

   SFO is outstanding.  If I have to fly to the west coast coming or going to Philippines  from Texas I will not go to LAX

I agree that Narita is awesome.  We usually from DFW-Narita-Taipei.  We much prefer international flights as compared to domestic hops.  We stay away from the west coast connections.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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19 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

And as long as she is prepared to sleep in the transit area in the event of any missed connection /delay in outbound flight so as not to have enter Japan (I have twice had unexpected overnight stays in transit countries on what should have been routine connections with plenty of time, once due to weather and once due to technical issues)

Highly unlikey that scenario would ever happen

 

Lots of flight from Narita to USA, I have made that flight 30 times

 

Delta  seems to #1 airline from doing Manila/Narita/USA.  

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19 hours ago, Chancy said:

 

The embassy does not extend visa validity, as it is tied to the medical exam date.  You can only request for a visa re-issue if your wife is not able to enter the US before her visa expires.  If the embassy approves your request for re-issue, your wife will need to repeat her medical, and pay the visa fee again.  The timeline for re-issue will be at the embassy's discretion.

 

I strongly recommend you exhaust all options to get your wife to the US before her visa expires, instead of going through the re-issue route that has no guaranteed timeline.  @flicks1998 has an even tighter schedule to fly in his fiancee.  He may have advice for you regarding flight options.

 

@Mylilelar1Connecting through Japan is possible if there are flights.  The below is from a highly reputable paid subscription service that I use for work on getting our travelers moving around.  There is now a travel ban between the Philippines and the US and Im not sure how that will affect flights.  I know they say its up to Jan 15 for now, but more than likely will be extended.  If you dont use the Japan route, you will need to look at either Turkey or Qatar.  Im not sure how PAL will be affected due to the travel ban.  Its still too early to know.  If you need country specific flight info, its best to PM me.  I need to have my fiance in the US by Feb 22.  She will have her new passport around Jan 20 or so and she is doing the CFO on Jan 5th.  Ill be writing the embassy after Jan 5th with an update on our situation and hopefully they can reissue the visa within a few weeks.  Otherwise, we will have to redo the medical exam and then who knows when things will fall back into place.  Having the passport stolen was a castrophic event as she would have been on my flight back on Jan 15 (as long as I still have a flight back to the US). 

 

Transit in Japan is not affected as long as travellers do not clear immigration. Transit must be within the same day.
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