All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

[yuna628 9,541]

19 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I'm out of upvotes, but I appreciate and respect not only you sharing YOUR personal experience but providing thoughtful input, and I'm sure others here do too.  I know you are more in tune with your health than many women today, and it's interesting you noticed the effects so quickly.  (I wish I could provide more info as to the ladies' health prior to the shots, but alas, not privy.  At the end of the day, I'm sure these symptoms will self-resolve, and in 4/5 of the instances, the women don't want kids, so it's likely no big deal.)

 

Just like "most people have no adverse effects" from the experimental drugs doesn't mean "it is safe for all"...  we cannot disregard all the SADS going on lately.  For me, the telling statistic is the uptick in insurance claims.   (Though the actual causes of death are typically never published)

Another anecdotal example: A co worker was in good health.  Got the second jab late last year, developed heart issues, and could no longer work.  After several months of this, he committed suicide.  He did NOT die from the jabs... yet, he did.  Knew he was never going back to work, couldn't support his family.  But the life insurance policy could.  He is a statistic, but the wrong one, sadly.  Only about 50 people know the real deal.


ETA: One lady with whom I am closely associated, in very good health and only 37, worked out 7 days a week... she not only described menstrual changes for about 9 months, she said she developed a "mental fog" for nearly a year.  When I pressed for more info, she described it as almost depression; didn't want to work out any longer, found it difficult to concentrate, didn't even enjoy talking to her husband or family.  She said she couldn't explain it, but it started shortly after her second jab.  Thankfully, she is feeling more like her old self these days, has started exercising again, and reported her cycles "back to normal".  Lucky gal.

 

Again I cannot attest to the specifics of her case. There have been studies recently (and they require more) that have shown in some people, the vaccine could potentially cause several issues that could be described as a Long COVID type syndrome, POTS/ME, CIU, etc. A few studies speculated this could be from the spike itself (but could not explain the same findings in non-spike vaccines), improper handling of the vial or injection technique, something pre-disposed genetic (underlying MCAS), or exposure to COVID without being aware. With the last suggestion, some persons have done tests to rule out natural infection. Others, have found their antibody levels from the vaccine to be at un-quantifiable levels to the original strain whereas others have waning antibodies. We know that in some patients, COVID reactivates EBV, which has already hijacked 90% of the population's cells - and that disease can have serious effects on the body long term and overlapping symptoms. There is nothing available thus far that has proven why it happens to some and not others. 

 

Yes brain fog is a symptom of Long COVID, however it is a symptom of many other conditions including COVID, lyme, MS, MCAS, fibromyalgia, CFS, or vitamin deficiencies. It would be incorrect to automatically assume the cause was the vaccine until everything else has been ruled out. People were struggling for a diagnosis with brain fog pre-pandemic too. So I hope instead of just assuming it was the vaccine, she did some thorough testing.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Would be interesting to learn which life insurance will pay after a suicide.

Most of them, after a certain period.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

 

Again I cannot attest to the specifics of her case. There have been studies recently (and they require more) that have shown in some people, the vaccine could potentially cause several issues that could be described as a Long COVID type syndrome, POTS/ME, CIU, etc. A few studies speculated this could be from the spike itself (but could not explain the same findings in non-spike vaccines), improper handling of the vial or injection technique, something pre-disposed genetic (underlying MCAS), or exposure to COVID without being aware. With the last suggestion, some persons have done tests to rule out natural infection. Others, have found their antibody levels from the vaccine to be at un-quantifiable levels to the original strain whereas others have waning antibodies. We know that in some patients, COVID reactivates EBV, which has already hijacked 90% of the population's cells - and that disease can have serious effects on the body long term and overlapping symptoms. There is nothing available thus far that has proven why it happens to some and not others. 

 

Yes brain fog is a symptom of Long COVID, however it is a symptom of many other conditions including COVID, lyme, MS, MCAS, fibromyalgia, CFS, or vitamin deficiencies. It would be incorrect to automatically assume the cause was the vaccine until everything else has been ruled out. People were struggling for a diagnosis with brain fog pre-pandemic too. So I hope instead of just assuming it was the vaccine, she did some thorough testing.

Well, she had zero issues pre-jab, issues lasted about a year, and is now fine.  Also, she never got covid until more than a year had passed and her symptoms were all better.  Said covid had her sick for about two days, along with loss of smell (but not taste, other than hyper-sensitivity to salt for about 5-6 days) for about 3 days after other symptoms had cleared.  She is certain it was due to her jabs, as are a handful of others who have described the same symptoms.  All took the mRNA drugs.

[Neonred 3,461]

12 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Well, she had zero issues pre-jab, issues lasted about a year, and is now fine.  Also, she never got covid until more than a year had passed and her symptoms were all better.  Said covid had her sick for about two days, along with loss of smell (but not taste, other than hyper-sensitivity to salt for about 5-6 days) for about 3 days after other symptoms had cleared.  She is certain it was due to her jabs, as are a handful of others who have described the same symptoms.  All took the mRNA drugs.

A lot of talk and concern about mRNA vaccines, and rightly so.

 

How does everyone feel about the non mRNA vaccines?  Especially now that the Novavax vaccine, a more traditional vaccine, is approved for use?

[yuna628 9,541]

3 minutes ago, Neonred said:

A lot of talk and concern about mRNA vaccines, and rightly so.

 

How does everyone feel about the non mRNA vaccines?  Especially now that the Novavax vaccine, a more traditional vaccine, is approved for use?

Well I wish I had something better to feel about them, but my immunologist doesn't want me rocking that boat until more studies come out. For what studies do exist, non-mRNA vaccines still had the same reactivity issues as mRNA ones did. If the problem is not the spike, and the patient reacted to the other ingredients, they will find the same problem in Novavax - in fact it is contraindicated in those who are reactive to poly80.

 https://mvec.mcri.edu.au/references/covid-19-vaccines-and-allergy/  https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.15241 Of course that's just really for urticaria and anaphylaxis reactions. Myocarditis was also still a potential risk. I have a feeling if people have made up their minds about any vaccine through a lot of misinfo out there, it's unlikely they'd be more inclined to try a different one. Is there evidence that it works better than mRNA? At this point we aren't even trying to stop variants... 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

I'd rather take my chances with the disease than with man-made drugs that thus far have proven to be mostly ineffective against said disease.

Also of concern to me is the rising number of "unknown cause".  As I said before, time has a way of telling the truth.

 

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/deaths-unknown-causes-now-leading-killer-alberta-canada-following-rollout-experimental-vaccine-2021-total-significantly-higher-2019/

[Dashinka 23,371]

50 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

I'd rather take my chances with the disease than with man-made drugs that thus far have proven to be mostly ineffective against said disease.

Also of concern to me is the rising number of "unknown cause".  As I said before, time has a way of telling the truth.

 

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/deaths-unknown-causes-now-leading-killer-alberta-canada-following-rollout-experimental-vaccine-2021-total-significantly-higher-2019/

Interesting how back in 1999, Dr. Fauci was interested in the long-term effects of an experimental vaccine.  If anyone wants to see it, search Fauci HIV vaccine 1999, it's there.

[Dashinka 23,371]

Fauci apparently has a bit of a god complex it would seem.  I guess it was common sense to say don't mask up, then say mask up, tell us the vaccine would prevent infection, etc.

 

Conservatives disgusted after Fauci says his ‘common sense’ advice ‘saved millions’: ‘Zero humility’

 

Fauci insisted that everything he ever did or recommended while being the face of the fight against COVID-19 was share common-sense guidance.

 

"All I have ever done – and go back and look at everything I’ve ever done – was to recommend common-sense, good CDC-recommended public health policies that have saved millions of lives," the doctor declared, before reiterating, "If you want to investigate me for that, go ahead."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/conservatives-disgusted-after-fauci-common-sense-advice-saved-millions-zero-humility

[TBoneTX 43,420]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

"All I have ever done – and go back and look at everything I’ve ever done – was to recommend common-sense, good CDC-recommended public health policies that have saved millions of lives," the doctor declared

[cue vomit icon]

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

8 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Fauci apparently has a bit of a god complex it would seem.  I guess it was common sense to say don't mask up, then say mask up, tell us the vaccine would prevent infection, etc.

 

Conservatives disgusted after Fauci says his ‘common sense’ advice ‘saved millions’: ‘Zero humility’

 

Fauci insisted that everything he ever did or recommended while being the face of the fight against COVID-19 was share common-sense guidance.

 

"All I have ever done – and go back and look at everything I’ve ever done – was to recommend common-sense, good CDC-recommended public health policies that have saved millions of lives," the doctor declared, before reiterating, "If you want to investigate me for that, go ahead."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/conservatives-disgusted-after-fauci-common-sense-advice-saved-millions-zero-humility

What a flippin', self-serving fraud.  Should be in prison for his part in helping to create covid in the first place.

[TBoneTX 43,420]

On 7/25/2022 at 2:22 PM, LIBrty4all said:

I'm out of upvotes

Recruit a couple of others to do the same with theirs as what you're doing with yours, and achieve your goal even faster!  I'm estimating the countdown.      Hopefully no one will catch the coronavirus in the meantime.

Edited July 27, 2022 by TBoneTX

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,330]

Is this still a thing 

[Dashinka 23,371]

26 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Is this still a thing 

No.  Old Joe and his minions ignoring any close contact isolation rules certainly signals this is over.

[TBoneTX 43,420]

What do we think about this?

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Did Biden Really Have COVID-19?

 

Biden's onset of COVID comes at a convenient time when he's in dire need of sympathy and a distraction.  Don't fall for it.

 

https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/27/does-biden-really-have-covid-19/

[TBoneTX 43,420]

I like how this guy thinks and writes.

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Doctors Said the Vaccine Was Safe

 

"We were just following orders," the doctors will say when the truth comes out.  Where have we heard that before?  [...]

 

https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/28/doctors-said-the-vaccine-was-safe/

 

Edited July 29, 2022 by TBoneTX