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Hello. I am the applicant living abroad while my husband (the petitioner/US Citizen) filed for me in the States. We got married May 2018. We were just informed that our case was created at NVC and we had submitted the AOS fee and IV fee payment yesterday. However, I have a question regarding the type of residency I will be granted. I understand that if the second anniversary of our marriage has passed at the time of visa approval, I will be granted a 10 year residency, while if the anniversary has not passed, it would be a 2 year conditional residency. My question is, when exactly does this second anniversary marker end?? Is it (i) when we filed the application (already passed; 2 year res.), (ii) when we have our interview (depending on how quickly we get documents ready, 2 year res. or 10 year res.), or (iii) when I enter the US (most likely 10 year res.)? I have asked MULTIPLE people and have gotten several different answers, so I would like to get some clarity on this issue (my lawyer says it is (i), a different forum says (iii), and when I did another Google search, an old VisaJourney thread said (ii):

 

Any and all help would be appreciated!!!! Thank you!!!! 

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9 minutes ago, meow85meow said:

I understand that if the second anniversary of our marriage has passed at the time of visa approval, I will be granted a 10 year residency, while if the anniversary has not passed, it would be a 2 year conditional residency.

Incorrect.   If you enter the US after two years of marriage you will receive a 10yr green card.  It has nothing to do with the issue date.

Edited by Paul & Mary

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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14 minutes ago, meow85meow said:

Hello. I am the applicant living abroad while my husband (the petitioner/US Citizen) filed for me in the States. We got married May 2018. We were just informed that our case was created at NVC and we had submitted the AOS fee and IV fee payment yesterday. However, I have a question regarding the type of residency I will be granted. I understand that if the second anniversary of our marriage has passed at the time of visa approval, I will be granted a 10 year residency, while if the anniversary has not passed, it would be a 2 year conditional residency. My question is, when exactly does this second anniversary marker end?? Is it (i) when we filed the application (already passed; 2 year res.), (ii) when we have our interview (depending on how quickly we get documents ready, 2 year res. or 10 year res.), or (iii) when I enter the US (most likely 10 year res.)? I have asked MULTIPLE people and have gotten several different answers, so I would like to get some clarity on this issue (my lawyer says it is (i), a different forum says (iii), and when I did another Google search, an old VisaJourney thread said (ii):

 

Any and all help would be appreciated!!!! Thank you!!!! 

Entry, entry, entry.  

 

 

YMMV

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3 hours ago, meow85meow said:

Thanks everyone for confirming. One additional question - does anyone have any idea why people were basing the length of the marriage on the interview date in the thread below (albeit, it's from 2008, but still figure it's good to check)???

You've linked an Adjustment of Status, which takes place inside the US. 

Not relevant to your case, since you've applied from abroad.

 

They're different procedures. 

 

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7 hours ago, meow85meow said:

Thanks everyone for confirming. One additional question - does anyone have any idea why people were basing the length of the marriage on the interview date in the thread below (albeit, it's from 2008, but still figure it's good to check)???

Green card interview date is very different than entry on an immigrant Visa 

YMMV

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Hey according to my lawyer it’s the second year of your wedding anniversary and if you are approved after that it’s a 10year not 2 year conditional green card!

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Again, it’s important to make a distinction here between AOS, adjusting status to that of a permanent resident, which takes place inside the US, 

and the spousal visa (ir1/cr1) where you live abroad and become a permanent resident upon entry. 

In the case of the latter, what matters is the date you become a permanent resident; i.e., the date of entry into the US. If this is after your second anniversary, you are entitled to an unconditional greencard. 
 

if you are issued a conditional greencard by mistake after having entered after your 2-year anniversary, you should file an i-90, without paying a fee, since you were issued a conditional greencard by mistake. 

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4 hours ago, SandraLee said:

Hey according to my lawyer it’s the second year of your wedding anniversary and if you are approved after that it’s a 10year not 2 year conditional green card!

Not quite right. I hope you’re not paying the lawyer much. It’s based on the date of your entry into the United States, not the date your visa is approved it issued. 

 

Using the OP’s dates, let’s say her wedding date is May 15, 2018. If she arrives here on or after May 15, 2020 she will receive a 10-year GC. If she arrives here on May 14, 2020 or before, she will receive a 2-year conditional card and have to go through the removal of conditions circus.  

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 hour ago, JFH said:

Not quite right. I hope you’re not paying the lawyer much. It’s based on the date of your entry into the United States, not the date your visa is approved it issued. 

 

Using the OP’s dates, let’s say her wedding date is May 15, 2018. If she arrives here on or after May 15, 2020 she will receive a 10-year GC. If she arrives here on May 14, 2020 or before, she will receive a 2-year conditional card and have to go through the removal of conditions circus.  

Yes correct I see your point I’m just saying you still need to be married two years to the date. 

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