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https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/8/27/incoming-freshman-deported/

 

I thought this was an interesting case, more for the quality of the reporting when nobody would know why he was deported, a distinct lack of critical thinking.

 

To think that he is likely to be coming back any time soon does not pass the smell test.


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7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/8/27/incoming-freshman-deported/

 

I thought this was an interesting case, more for the quality of the reporting when nobody would know why he was deported, a distinct lack of critical thinking.

 

To think that he is likely to be coming back any time soon does not pass the smell test.

 

 

   Begins and ends with this:

 

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 "This individual was deemed inadmissible to the United States based on information discovered during the CBP inspection.”

 

   The rest of the article was filler. Regardless of other details, they can't change the part quoted above.

   


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That applies to anybody who does not make it past the POE. So just a statement of the obvious.

 

1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

   Begins and ends with this:

 

 

   The rest of the article was filler. Regardless of other details, they can't change the part quoted above.

   

 


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Just now, Boiler said:

That applies to anybody who does not make it past the POE. So just a statement of the obvious.

 

 

 

  True, but since the quote directly from CBP in regards to this case, we could skip around much of the speculation made in the article. Even the "deported" part is probably creative license. 


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I wondered about the Deported, know way of knowing and probably just used as a term to being sent back.

 

Interesting how the story is presented with very little information.


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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I wondered about the Deported, know way of knowing and probably just used as a term to being sent back.

 

Interesting how the story is presented with very little information.

 

  Yeah, and to be honest they probably did better than most at this type of article. At least they got us the quote from CBP. 


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Actually that was the odd bit, normally they quote privacy issues and make a general statement.


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6 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

So he was denied admission and sent back home? 

That was about it.


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One of the biggest educational chasms in the U.S. is the seemingly universal lack of knowledge about legal immigration.

We're very lucky to be regulars on VJ.


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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

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12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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14 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

trigonometry

     The Arkansas Police Judge called the next case.  "What's the charge against this here fellow?" he asked the policeman.

     "The charge is Bigotry, yer honor," said the cop.  "He's got three wives."

     "Three wives?!" thundered the judge.  "You moron!  That ain't bigotry -- that's trigonometry!"


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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