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So my wife and I got married here in the states this past November.  Once my wife has her AP card or green card we are going back to the Philippines to get married again so her family can attend the wedding as they couldn't attend the one here in the states.  My question is can we legally get married again or must we only hold a marriage ceremony without legally getting married again?  Also depending on the answer do I need to do the ROM for the marriage in the states or can we just get a marriage license there for the Philippines like we have the one here in the states?  Thanks.

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10 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

So my wife and I got married here in the states this past November.  Once my wife has her AP card or green card we are going back to the Philippines to get married again so her family can attend the wedding as they couldn't attend the one here in the states.  My question is can we legally get married again or must we only hold a marriage ceremony without legally getting married again?  Also depending on the answer do I need to do the ROM for the marriage in the states or can we just get a marriage license there for the Philippines like we have the one here in the states?  Thanks.

You can get married as many times you want no issue. many people on K1 have two weddings. Have fun.


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15 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

So my wife and I got married here in the states this past November.  Once my wife has her AP card or green card we are going back to the Philippines to get married again so her family can attend the wedding as they couldn't attend the one here in the states.  My question is can we legally get married again or must we only hold a marriage ceremony without legally getting married again?  Also depending on the answer do I need to do the ROM for the marriage in the states or can we just get a marriage license there for the Philippines like we have the one here in the states?  Thanks.

Same situation. As what expert members here said to my thread about this second wedding in ph..its not gonna be a wedding and it would be a renewal of vows in Philippines which is make sense..and yep all filipino who got married here need to do ROM and so that the marriage here will be register/recognized in the Philippines.

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Only one marriage is a legal one. Try getting a marriage license and telling them you are already married... ;)

The other would be a celebration / renewal of vows.

 

ROM would be based on where the legal marriage occurred.

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Ok thanks for explanations guys.  I guess we will just have a celebration / renewal of vows for her family and friends.  Also, for the ROM of marriage does anyone know about how long it may take to get back the original birth certificate we have to submit?  We only have one left and I know she will need that for other things so we need it back soon.  


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11/10/2017:  Met in person 1st time (traveled to Philippines: 11/8/2017 - 11/20/2017)

01/29/2018:  I-129F petition sent to the USCIS Dallas lockbox via USPS

01/31/2018:  I-129F petition delivered and signed by USCIS

02/06/2018:  Check was cashed ($535); Received acceptance confirmation email and text from USCIS; Case being transferred to CSC

02/08/2018:  NOA1 hard copy received via USPS (NOA1 received date: 01/31/2018; NOA1 notice date: 02/05/2018)

08/09/2018:  I-129F petition approved (total wait time: 190 days from received date and 185 days from notice date) 

08/13/2018:  NOA2 hard copy received via USPS

08/22/2018:  NVC received I-129F petition

08/23/2018:  NVC assigned case number

09/03/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 1)

09/04/2018:  Medical exam at SLEC (Day 2)

09/04/2018:  NVC sent I-129F petition to embassy

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09/24/2018:  Interview - Approved! (Interview took 236 days from received date and 231 days from notice date)

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10/03/2018:  Flew from BCD to MNL and back to get CFO - GCP sticker

10/06/2018:  POE at JFK airport in New York

10/22/2018:  Received marriage license application (applied on 10/17/2018)

11/07/2018:  Received SSN card (applied on 10/24/2018)

11/10/2018:  Married to my Honeybun!

AOS/EAD/AP

11/23/2018:  Packet sent to the USCIS Chicago lockbox via USPS

11/29/2018:  Packet delivered and signed by USCIS

12/05/2018:  Check was cashed ($1225); Received three acceptance confirmation texts (one for each form) from the USCIS

12/11/2018:  NOA1 hard copies received (one for each form) via USPS (NOA1 received date: 11/29/2018; NOA1 notice date: 12/03/2018)

12/13/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 12/07/2018)

12/26/2018:  Biometrics (ASC) appointment at 9:00am at the USCIS Application Support Center in Charleston, SC

01/02/2019:  AOS case status update:  Ready to schedule interview

01/09/2019:  AOS case status update:  Interview scheduled

01/12/2019:  Interview appointment notice hard copy received via USPS (notice date: 01/09/2019)

02/19/2019:  Interview for AOS:  I-485

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1 minute ago, Tokenfreak said:

Ok thanks for explanations guys.  I guess we will just have a celebration / renewal of vows for her family and friends.  Also, for the ROM of marriage does anyone know about how long it may take to get back the original birth certificate we have to submit?  We only have one left and I know she will need that for other things so we need it back soon.  

Generally, if you do the ROM in person then you can get everything settled the same day.

If you mail it in, time varies by the embassy/consulate that handles the ROM. But expect a few to several weeks.


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1/10/18: EAD + AP received

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6 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

Ok thanks for explanations guys.  I guess we will just have a celebration / renewal of vows for her family and friends.  Also, for the ROM of marriage does anyone know about how long it may take to get back the original birth certificate we have to submit? 

 

 

We only have one left and I know she will need that for other things so we need it back soon.  

 

Photocopy the original birth certificate for the future.. and if you dont mind spending some money you can order it in Philippines and ask your spouse family to send it via Philippines Post "it would take 2 weeks for regular mail and 5 days to one week for priority mail" and i think you could also request a psa bc from Philippines embassy.

 

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34 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

So my wife and I got married here in the states this past November.  Once my wife has her AP card or green card we are going back to the Philippines to get married again so her family can attend the wedding as they couldn't attend the one here in the states.  My question is can we legally get married again or must we only hold a marriage ceremony without legally getting married again?  Also depending on the answer do I need to do the ROM for the marriage in the states or can we just get a marriage license there for the Philippines like we have the one here in the states?  Thanks.

There is a difference between getting married more than once (while still married) and having a wedding ceremony.   What most do is having a renewal of vows wedding ceremony  for family in the Philippines.

 

You DO NOT get another marriage license in the Philippines, you are ALREADY married.   You just have a renewal of vows wedding ceremony.

 

We did this and the minister performed the service for us ...  no documentation!   We had a party and all had a good time.


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16 minutes ago, Tokenfreak said:

Ok thanks for explanations guys.  I guess we will just have a celebration / renewal of vows for her family and friends.  Also, for the ROM of marriage does anyone know about how long it may take to get back the original birth certificate we have to submit?  We only have one left and I know she will need that for other things so we need it back soon.  

6-8 weeks is what the consulate says for getting ROM completed and your documents back.

 

You keep the original and use certified copies (county recorder issues those)


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34 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

You can get married as many times you want no issue. many people on K1 have two weddings. Have fun.

I think they call the second marriage a renewal of vows.  Most don't have to fill out all the paperwork for the second "marriage" but other than that it is identical.  No need for a new marriage license in the Philippines.  In fact, I doubt if they can get one since they won't be able to produce CENOMARs.  Why pay those fees anyway?  Everything else is a full blown wedding.

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3 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

There is a difference between getting married more than once (while still married) and having a wedding ceremony.   What most do is having a renewal of vows wedding ceremony  for family in the Philippines.

 

You DO NOT get another marriage license in the Philippines, you are ALREADY married.   You just have a renewal of vows wedding ceremony.

 

We did this and the minister performed the service for us ...  no documentation!   We had a party and all had a good time.

I have a question @hank_ me and my husband planning to renew our vows this year in Philippines and i need clarification if we could do it in the church and if the church gonna need documents from us? Like our marriage certificate?  Thank you!

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4 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

In fact, I doubt if they can get one since they won't be able to produce CENOMARs.

If ROM wasn't completed then they could get a CENOMAR still. But they would still need to lie and say they weren't married...and then you're opening pandora's box of troubles.


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10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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4 minutes ago, icanbenobody said:

I have a question @hank_ me and my husband planning to renew our vows this year in Philippines and i need clarification if we could do it in the church and if the church gonna need documents from us? Like our marriage certificate?  Thank you!

That is a question for the church.   If you explain it is a renewal of vows then they should not require any documents    bring your existing certificate just in case


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6 minutes ago, icanbenobody said:

I have a question @hank_ me and my husband planning to renew our vows this year in Philippines and i need clarification if we could do it in the church and if the church gonna need documents from us? Like our marriage certificate?  Thank you!

Depends on the church.   We had a fancy "venue" deal ... the minister came there to complete the ceremony, we didn't show him a marriage certificate or anything .. he knew we were married, besides there is nothing"legal" about a renewal of vows to require documentation.       You need to ask your minister at your church this question.

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1 minute ago, Hank_ said:

Depends on the church.   We had a fancy "venue" deal ... the minister came there to complete the ceremony.       You need to ask your minister at your church this question.

Cool i guess i know what to do now. Thanks @Hank_                

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