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My daughter in law received her two year green card, we filed the I-75 form which was received and waiting for processing. She decided to go to visit her family as she had not seen them in over two years. I thought that she could travel back using her passport, but wondering if I am wrong. How do we deal with the expired two year green card, waiting for the 10 year one? It makes no sense that the two year one expires, and they will not let us file earlier than 90 days before it expires, but it take sometimes 18 months or longer to get approved for the 10 year one. I am afraid that when she tries to re-enter the US now she will be denied. I know I should have thought about this BEFORE she left to visit her family. 

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To return to the USA she will need her passport, green card, and NOA1 which extends her green card for 1 year (or 18 months...)  She will be denied entry without the green card and NOA1 extension letter. 

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29 minutes ago, mpepper said:

It makes no sense that the two year one expires, and they will not let us file earlier than 90 days before it expires, but it take sometimes 18 months or longer to get approved for the 10 year one.

It makes perfect sense.   That's why they extend the expired Green Card by 18 months......she should have taken the extension letter with her, or made a trip to a USCIS office to get a stamp.

 

Did she receive the extension letter?  If so, can you sent it to her?

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, mpepper said:

My daughter in law received her two year green card, we filed the I-75 form which was received and waiting for processing. She decided to go to visit her family as she had not seen them in over two years. I thought that she could travel back using her passport, but wondering if I am wrong. How do we deal with the expired two year green card, waiting for the 10 year one? It makes no sense that the two year one expires, and they will not let us file earlier than 90 days before it expires, but it take sometimes 18 months or longer to get approved for the 10 year one. I am afraid that when she tries to re-enter the US now she will be denied. I know I should have thought about this BEFORE she left to visit her family. 

 

USCIS should have issued her an extension letter via the NOA1. That's what she needs to re-enter the USA. If the letter arrived after she left the USA and/or she didn't bring it along with her, you should mail it to her. 

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Aug. 10, '17: Mailed in I-751

Aug. 21, '17: NOA1

October 23, '18: NOA2- approval

October 30, 18: 10-year GC received

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She will need the original extension letter - not a copy - as it is watermarked.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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20 hours ago, NikLR said:

To return to the USA she will need her passport, green card, and NOA1 which extends her green card for 1 year (or 18 months...)  She will be denied entry without the green card and NOA1 extension letter. 

Actually, most airlines will not even let someone board a US bound flight without the proper documentation, so she could be in trouble far before getting to CBP.

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US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

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47 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Actually, most airlines will not even let someone board a US bound flight without the proper documentation, so she could be in trouble far before getting to CBP.

You are right -  it's more about getting boarded, not about entering the US. 

 

I believe once you managed THAT part, and somehow was able to get out of another country -  even with an expired green card you would be let in to the US. After scrutiny, a secondary and etc - but as long as a LPR status is not terminated, an individual should be let in. Eventually.

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OP, was your daughter in law on a parent's I-751, in Part.5 as a dependent OR she had her own ROC application?

 

If she was included in her parent's I-751 - then not always a child gets an Extension Letter, so called Verification of Inclusion of a Dependent in Filing of Form i-751. 

Even if a child gets one, it usually doesn't look so "official' as a parent's NOA1 - no watermarks and etc...

 

So, before leaving the US it's really a good idea to get a I-551 stamp in a child's passport. 

 

 

 

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