Republicans stunned to learn voters understand exactly what their tax cut did

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

30 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

So do we do a sustainability report before or after the Republicans cut taxes for the uber wealthy?

and cut even more for the middle class. BTW tax revenues are at an all time high, so again what is your problem with the cuts ?

[Neonred 3,454]

3 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

John Stoseell kind of addressed this in his book. You do have a valid somewhat of a point. We spend Billons every year subsidizing rich people to build homes in hurricane paths at the beach.  Just one of his examples. 

So, do you want me to move my house off the beach? 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 minutes ago, Neonred said:

So, do you want me to move my house off the beach? 

No not at all. Let me ask you this. Does the govt subsidize your flood insurance ?  not saying you should not take it if it is available,

[Neonred 3,454]

1 hour ago, Marty Byrde said:

No not at all. Let me ask you this. Does the govt subsidize your flood insurance ?  not saying you should not take it if it is available,

Great question.  I'm sure they do.  I paid for flood insurance for my place on Big Pine Key for the last 20 years. Had 3 feet of water under the house with Irma.  Quite a mess and a fair amount of erosion under and around the house. Nothing was covered.

 

This year I didn't renew.  I'm self insuring.  I'm thinking of doing the same for the hurricane wind storm insurance also. 

 

But yes, government subsidized of course.   Didn't mean to sound like I was arguing about. 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Neonred

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

No one else got a tax cut?  How do you cut taxes to the poor that don't pay taxes, or the middle class without cutting taxes to the top brackets?  We do have a progressive tax system.  As to the wealthy are you insinuating they do not deserve to keep more of what they worked hard to get?  I suppose socialism/communism would be a much better system.

Yes.. the wealthy need to pay relatively more taxes because they have enough to survive past the point of basic living. Its about spreading equity. 

 

We need to make a point to invest in each other as a community or we all will fall from greatness. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Neonred said:

Great question.  I'm sure they do.  I paid for flood insurance for my place on Big Pine Key for the last 20 years. Had 3 feet of water under the house with Irma.  Quite a mess and a fair amount of erosion under and around the house. Nothing was covered.

 

This year I didn't renew.  I'm self insuring.  I'm thinking of doing the same for the hurricane wind storm insurance also. 

 

But yes, government subsidized of course.   Didn't mean to sound like I was arguing about. 

No sir not at all.  😁

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Yes.. the wealthy need to pay relatively more taxes because they have enough to survive past the point of basic living. Its about spreading equity. 

 

We need to make a point to invest in each other as a community or we all will fall from greatness. 

Th wealthy do pay more taxes. Th top 20% pay over 80% of taxes.  Dont buy into the democratic party class warfare. 

 

[TBoneTX 43,326]

12 hours ago, Neonred said:

do you want me to move my house off the beach?

The next hurricane will happily do so.

[Neonred 3,454]

3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

The next hurricane will happily do so.

Naw.  We went thru the eye of Irma as a strong cat 4 and did very well.  Not even enough damage to meet the deductable. 

 

But to be honest there isn't really a beach on this island.  Just a few houses on a "beach" on the Atlantic side.  Most oof us are all on canals just a short distance to the open water. 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

17 hours ago, Marty Byrde said:

Th wealthy do pay more taxes. Th top 20% pay over 80% of taxes.  Dont buy into the democratic party class warfare. 

 

I never said that they didnt pay taxes.. the point is they should. And they do pay relatively less than middle class and the working poor. 

The number you are quoting are just federal income.  

 

Republicans have literally been waging war on the poor for the longest. So no politician is innocent of this "class warfare" idea.

[Dashinka 23,328]

16 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I never said that they didnt pay taxes.. the point is they should. And they do pay relatively less than middle class and the working poor. 

The number you are quoting are just federal income.  

 

Republicans have literally been waging war on the poor for the longest. So no politician is innocent of this "class warfare" idea.

Define relatively?  Are you talking per capita?

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Define relatively?  Are you talking per capita?

Realative purchasing power after taxes are taken out. 

 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi

[Dashinka 23,328]

1 minute ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Realative purchasing power after taxes are taken out. 

 

Kind of a weird way to define tax fairness if that is what you are getting at.  I realize that the "tax the rich" rhetoric plays well, or used to, but in my opinion everyone is entitled to have more of the money they earned, rich, poor or otherwise.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I never said that they didnt pay taxes.. the point is they should. And they do pay relatively less than middle class and the working poor.

The number you are quoting are just federal income.  

 

Republicans have literally been waging war on the poor for the longest. So no politician is innocent of this "class warfare" idea.

Can you explain this, please?  I am not sure where you are trying to lead us here...

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

23 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Kind of a weird way to define tax fairness if that is what you are getting at.  I realize that the "tax the rich" rhetoric plays well, or used to, but in my opinion everyone is entitled to have more of the money they earned, rich, poor or otherwise.

Is it odd.. or is it the reason why we have a progressive federal tax in the first place?