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Hi People so today was my husband's interview and they have now asked for additional documents. I had filed for him alone and I have lived in Dubai for 10 years and not worked anywhere else. They want my father as a joint sponsor and his tax returns for 2017. However my question is my father and my mother both have filed their tax returns jointly. Does my father fill the I864 and my mother the i864a? Could someone please help us with this query. We already meet the earned income requirement, hence does my parents' income really make a difference (the amount they ear annually) as the US embassy in Abu Dhabi has only asked my husband to get a joint sponsor to support us with their tax returns.  So that would mean not 'financially' right?

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How did you meet the income requirement if you've only ever worked in Dubai? Assets? Will your income from Dubai continue when you're in the U.S.? They are requesting a sponsor that can support your spouse financially, so I would say yes, your parents income matters. You are correct that your father should fill out the I-864 & your mother the I-864a.

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32 minutes ago, truelove29 said:

How did you meet the income requirement if you've only ever worked in Dubai? Assets? Will your income from Dubai continue when you're in the U.S.? They are requesting a sponsor that can support your spouse financially, so I would say yes, your parents income matters. You are correct that your father should fill out the I-864 & your mother the I-864a.

This is correct.  Think of it like cosigning for a loan.  Your parents will be second to you in meeting the terms of the I-864 contract to repay the taxpayers if you don't support your husband or he can't support himself.  You need a qualified joint sponsor, so yes, your parents' income absolutely matters.  If they don't qualify, find somebody who does.

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6 hours ago, pushbrk said:

This is correct.  Think of it like cosigning for a loan.  Your parents will be second to you in meeting the terms of the I-864 contract to repay the taxpayers if you don't support your husband or he can't support himself.  You need a qualified joint sponsor, so yes, your parents' income absolutely matters.  If they don't qualify, find somebody who does.

Thank you so much for your reply. I just have one doubt if my father sponsor's us his house hold will increase to 5 as my mother and younger brother lives in the same house. Could someone please assist?

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1 hour ago, Amisharjil said:

Thank you so much for your reply. I just have one doubt if my father sponsor's us his house hold will increase to 5 as my mother and younger brother lives in the same house. Could someone please assist?

I think you want to ask a question but not sure what the question is.  If your parents and a younger brother are the household now, and only your husband is immigrating, their household is 4, not 5.  You are not part of their household, as you are neither their dependent OR an immigrant.  They will need sufficient income for a household of 4.  Check the I-864p to see if they qualify.

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On 28/06/2018 at 11:15 AM, pushbrk said:

I think you want to ask a question but not sure what the question is.  If your parents and a younger brother are the household now, and only your husband is immigrating, their household is 4, not 5.  You are not part of their household, as you are neither their dependent OR an immigrant.  They will need sufficient income for a household of 4.  Check the I-864p to see if they qualify.

Hello,

 

Hope you're doing good. I have another doubt. My Father's and Mother's joint income for 2017 is just above $29,000/- but on the I-864p for 2018 it says that for a household of 4 (My Mother, Father, Brother and now my Husband (beneficiary) the minimum annual income (125% of HHS poverty guidelines) should be $31,375/-. My doubt now is that the when my husband went for his interview the US Embassy in Abu Dhabi (U.A.E) only asked him to get a joint sponsor because even though I am a born US citizen I am not eligible to file tax returns as I've never worked in the United States and qualified for the foreign income inclusion. However, my current annual income is sufficient to support my husband. The only thing I cannot provide is tax returns and that's the requirement. 

 

Now I have a few questions before choosing my joint sponsor(s)

 

1.) If I use my Father&Mother's joint tax returns for 2017 will that be added to my income or do they have to individually qualify for a household of 4? Because if that's the case then their annual income for 2017 does not qualify. 

 

2.) Each beneficiary can only have a maximum of 2 joint sponsors. If my Father&Mother have jointly paid their taxes for 2017 my Father will fill out I-864 and my Mother I-864a. But does that make my Mother the 2nd joint sponsor? 

 

3.) Does each joint sponsor (whether they are related to my husband or not) have to individually qualify (meet the annual income requirement) as a joint sponsor according to the household size including my husband? If yes does that mean my Father&Mother together don't qualify as a joint sponsor at all?

 

4.) If each joint sponsor's annual income must individually qualify according to the 125% poverty guidelines what is the purpose for the concept of 2 joint sponsors. Do 2 joint sponsors just come in to play only if there is more than 1 beneficiary?

 

I know I've asked quite a few questions however it is mandatory that I make the correct decision when it comes to a joint sponsor. According to me in our case I should only choose only one eligible joint sponsor to make thing less complicated.

 

Thanks a lot in advance

Edited by Amisharjil
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Hello,

 

 I have another doubt. My Father's and Mother's joint income for 2017 is just above $29,000/- but on the I-864p for 2018 it says that for a household of 4 (My Mother, Father, Brother and now my Husband (beneficiary) the minimum annual income (125% of HHS poverty guidelines) should be $31,375/-. My doubt now is that the when my husband went for his interview the US Embassy in Abu Dhabi (U.A.E) only asked him to get a joint sponsor because even though I am a born US citizen I am not eligible to file tax returns as I've never worked in the United States and qualified for the foreign income inclusion. However, my current annual income is sufficient to support my husband. The only thing I cannot provide is tax returns and that's the requirement. 

 

Now I have a few questions before choosing my joint sponsor(s)

 

1.) If I use my Father&Mother's joint tax returns for 2017 will that be added to my income or do they have to individually qualify for a household of 4? Because if that's the case then their annual income for 2017 does not qualify. 

 

2.) Each beneficiary can only have a maximum of 2 joint sponsors. If my Father&Mother have jointly paid their taxes for 2017 my Father will fill out I-864 and my Mother I-864a. But does that make my Mother the 2nd joint sponsor? 

 

3.) Does each joint sponsor (whether they are related to my husband or not) have to individually qualify (meet the annual income requirement) as a joint sponsor according to the household size including my husband? If yes does that mean my Father&Mother together don't qualify as a joint sponsor at all?

 

4.) If each joint sponsor's annual income must individually qualify according to the 125% poverty guidelines what is the purpose for the concept of 2 joint sponsors. Do 2 joint sponsors just come in to play only if there is more than 1 beneficiary?

 

I know I've asked quite a few questions however it is mandatory that I make the correct decision when it comes to a joint sponsor. According to me in our case I should only choose only one eligible joint sponsor to make thing less complicated.

 

Thanks a lot in advance

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Unless your income continues when you move to the US it doesn't matter that you make enough , the income goes away when you immigrate.   Your parents can't be a sponsor as they don't make enough.  You can only combine incomes in a household that lives together.  You need to find someone else to help.  DO you or he have any relatives that make enough to help ? 

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Your parents don't qualify and you are not part of their household, so cannot combine income with them.  You'll need to find a qualified joint sponsor.  They will qualify based on their actual household size plus the intending immigrant.  Unless your income will continue from the same source AFTER you come back to the USA, it is actually $0 anyway.

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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14 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

Hello,

 

 I have another doubt. My Father's and Mother's joint income for 2017 is just above $29,000/- but on the I-864p for 2018 it says that for a household of 4 (My Mother, Father, Brother and now my Husband (beneficiary) the minimum annual income (125% of HHS poverty guidelines) should be $31,375/-. My doubt now is that the when my husband went for his interview the US Embassy in Abu Dhabi (U.A.E) only asked him to get a joint sponsor because even though I am a born US citizen I am not eligible to file tax returns as I've never worked in the United States and qualified for the foreign income inclusion. However, my current annual income is sufficient to support my husband. The only thing I cannot provide is tax returns and that's the requirement. 

 

Now I have a few questions before choosing my joint sponsor(s)

 

1.) If I use my Father&Mother's joint tax returns for 2017 will that be added to my income or do they have to individually qualify for a household of 4? Because if that's the case then their annual income for 2017 does not qualify. 

Correct.  They don't qualify.

14 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

 

2.) Each beneficiary can only have a maximum of 2 joint sponsors. If my Father&Mother have jointly paid their taxes for 2017 my Father will fill out I-864 and my Mother I-864a. But does that make my Mother the 2nd joint sponsor? 

 

No.  She's the one joint sponsor's household member.

 

14 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

3.) Does each joint sponsor (whether they are related to my husband or not) have to individually qualify (meet the annual income requirement) as a joint sponsor according to the household size including my husband? If yes does that mean my Father&Mother together don't qualify as a joint sponsor at all?

That's right.  Mom and dad don't qualify because they don't earn enough for a household of 4.

 

14 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

 

4.) If each joint sponsor's annual income must individually qualify according to the 125% poverty guidelines what is the purpose for the concept of 2 joint sponsors. Do 2 joint sponsors just come in to play only if there is more than 1 beneficiary?

You have the two joint sponsors wrong.  You are the primary sponsor and ONE joint sponsor who is qualified, can sponsor your husband.  THEY will qualify based on their own income and household size.

 

14 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

 

I know I've asked quite a few questions however it is mandatory that I make the correct decision when it comes to a joint sponsor. According to me in our case I should only choose only one eligible joint sponsor to make thing less complicated.

 

You cannot choose more than one joint sponsor per immigrant anyway.  When family members are immigrating together, the family can have one joint sponsor for part of the family and another second joint sponsor for the rest of the family.  You just have one immigrant, so one joint sponsor or joint sponsor and household member(s).

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14 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Correct.  They don't qualify.

No.  She's the one joint sponsor's household member.

 

That's right.  Mom and dad don't qualify because they don't earn enough for a household of 4.

 

You have the two joint sponsors wrong.  You are the primary sponsor and ONE joint sponsor who is qualified, can sponsor your husband.  THEY will qualify based on their own income and household size.

 

You cannot choose more than one joint sponsor per immigrant anyway.  When family members are immigrating together, the family can have one joint sponsor for part of the family and another second joint sponsor for the rest of the family.  You just have one immigrant, so one joint sponsor or joint sponsor and household member(s).

Hello all who replied. Thank you so much for your help.

 

I have another doubt. I had applied for a job in Iowa where my parents currently live as we will be initially staying there. And they had sent me a job offer letter based on my 10 year experience in Customer Services (my husband has also submitted a copy of that job offer letter to the Embassy of the USA when he went for his interview). My Father had suggested that I apply for this post as it fitted my job profile. I would also like to add that My Father has worked for this same company for almost 10 years now and as his annual income for 2017 doesn't suffice I would like to know if either of the two options below would.

 

1.) My Father's annual income last year (2017) was $29,000 which doesn't suffice for a household of 4 counting my husband (the beneficiary) however his boss increased his salary this year (From January 2018) and his current annual income does suffice. Hence, if my Father becomes the joint sponsor and submits his tax returns of 29,000 along with a pay raise letter would that be accepted by the Embassy of the USA and NVC? As technically my Father is currently eligible to take care of a household of not only 4 but 5.  

 

2.) If my Father's boss (who has also sent me a job offer letter) is willing to become the joint sponsor would that be acceptable? I am asking this question as he has also offered me a job and my Father has worked for this company for almost 10 years now. Would that be a problem? As I personally feel that each US citizen has the right to hire anyone he/she wants and also become a joint sponsor for that individual's spouse at the same time. Am I right? Please advise

 

Thanks a  lot 

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7 hours ago, Amisharjil said:

 

 

2.) If my Father's boss (who has also sent me a job offer letter) is willing to become the joint sponsor would that be acceptable? I am asking this question as he has also offered me a job and my Father has worked for this company for almost 10 years now. Would that be a problem? As I personally feel that each US citizen has the right to hire anyone he/she wants and also become a joint sponsor for that individual's spouse at the same time. Am I right? Please advise

 

Thanks a  lot 

Offering someone a job and signing as a joint sponsor are two entirely different things. What is the relationship with your father”s boss that you think he will be willing to sign as a sponsor? 

 
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