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Killian Smith   0

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Hello everyone!

I know this might be a long shot, but my great grandfather was a US-Soldier, stationed in Austria after the 2nd World War.

I never got to meet him, not even my granddad knew him, as he was sent to Korea soon after his birth and never came back. So I was wondering if my great grandfather being American would give me any advantage in acquiring an American citizenship.

We also have the documents confirming that I am related to him.

I currently have a double-citizenship with Austria and Ireland, thanks to my dad being Irish. It's also thanks to him that I am fluent in English. I'm not sure if this is important information, but I added it, just to be sure.

 

Thanks in advance for any replies!

 

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payxibka   10,048

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1 hour ago, Killian Smith said:

Hello everyone!

I know this might be a long shot, but my great grandfather was a US-Soldier, stationed in Austria after the 2nd World War.

I never got to meet him, not even my granddad knew him, as he was sent to Korea soon after his birth and never came back. So I was wondering if my great grandfather being American would give me any advantage in acquiring an American citizenship.

We also have the documents confirming that I am related to him.

I currently have a double-citizenship with Austria and Ireland, thanks to my dad being Irish. It's also thanks to him that I am fluent in English. I'm not sure if this is important information, but I added it, just to be sure.

 

Thanks in advance for any replies!

 

If your great grandfather was an American...  Is your grandfather also?

YMMV

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payxibka   10,048

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2 minutes ago, Rusty72 said:

Pretty sure it makes you a citizen....

Think Ted Cruz ..born in Canada ran for president 

pretty sure your wrong.  citizenship is not automatic if born outside the usa to a usc,  

YMMV

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3 minutes ago, payxibka said:

pretty sure your wrong.  citizenship is not automatic if born outside the usa to a usc,  

Theres many instances of that....

I could be wrong but I know of some in my family ..it wasn't an issue but I know 2 were from military stationed abroad the other I know was not mother living in Canada when child born..

payxibka Grand Master

payxibka   10,048

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1 minute ago, Rusty72 said:

Theres many instances of that....

I could be wrong but I know of some in my family ..it wasn't an issue but I know 2 were from military stationed abroad the other I know was not mother living in Canada when child born..

If the USC has spent the requisite time in country before the birth of the child the citizenship passes, otherwise it does not

YMMV

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32 minutes ago, Rusty72 said:

Pretty sure it makes you a citizen....

Think Ted Cruz ..born in Canada ran for president 

No, it doesn't. It can, but you must meet other criteria.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

 

21 minutes ago, Rusty72 said:

I could be wrong but I know of some in my family ..it wasn't an issue but I know 2 were from military stationed abroad the other I know was not mother living in Canada when child born..

Military bases are considered US soil, and being born on US soil makes you a USC automatically. The other case falls under the above statement.

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1 minute ago, Dee elle said:

Pretty sure you are wrong and I am right.... ditto as others  have currently spoken to your assumption.. 

Wow really....

The fact that the USC parent needed to reside in the USA for either 5 or 10 years at some point in their life so ya for MOST it would be automatic ..if the parents wanted that.

I did also say in my post you quoted that "I could be wrong" so I didn't really need your neener neener response post and with direct family members it WAS automatic ..so THERE 😀😀😀😀

 

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1 hour ago, Rusty72 said:

Theres many instances of that....

I could be wrong but I know of some in my family ..it wasn't an issue but I know 2 were from military stationed abroad the other I know was not mother living in Canada when child born..

yes, you're wrong.

 

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

No, it doesn't. It can, but you must meet other criteria.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

 

Military bases are considered US soil, and being born on US soil makes you a USC automatically. The other case falls under the above statement.

Based on those requirements.. if someone became naturalized after being married to a USC for 3 years, they can't pass their citizenship to their minor children from previous spouse until they live in the US for 2 more years? Interesting

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5 minutes ago, MahUSA said:

Based on those requirements.. if someone became naturalized after being married to a USC for 3 years, they can't pass their citizenship to their minor children from previous spouse until they live in the US for 2 more years? Interesting

That is not true.  The once the parent naturalizes, minor children also gain citizenship as long as they to are residents of the USA

 

At least one parent is a U.S. citizen, the child is currently under 18 and residing in the U.S. in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent pursuant to lawful admission for permanent residence.

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YMMV

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3 minutes ago, payxibka said:

That is not true.  The once the parent naturalizes, minor children also gain citizenship as long as they to are residents of the USA

 

At least one parent is a U.S. citizen, the child is currently under 18 and residing in the U.S. in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent pursuant to lawful admission for permanent residence.

Oh ok, I didn't pay attention that those rules only apply to "at birth" cases not later on .. thanks for the clarification

 
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