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Hello folks,

 

ive been to the states many a time overland and by plane, using esta recently. I have crossed the border about 6 times but my last visit was with a short delay - 3 days overstay.  That’s because I was awaiting a decision on my green card . As lack would have it my partner turned out to be an abusive man and I had to leave prematurely but 3 days to late according to my esta entry. Is there a chance I get a new esta? I know it’s only issued to those who haven’t overstated but if a computer glitch issues that esta will I be allowed into the country?

 

thank you

 

michal 

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Just apply for a tourist visa. The ESTA is gone. You are grasping at straws with the computer glitch claim.

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I'll humor the glitch. Say it gives you esta again. After a long long flight back to the US you get the officer looking at you like you have two heads. Thinking ya right buddy and putting your butt on the next plane out. 

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4 hours ago, Michal K. said:

Hello folks,

 

ive been to the states many a time overland and by plane, using esta recently. I have crossed the border about 6 times but my last visit was with a short delay - 3 days overstay.  That’s because I was awaiting a decision on my green card . As lack would have it my partner turned out to be an abusive man and I had to leave prematurely but 3 days to late according to my esta entry. Is there a chance I get a new esta? I know it’s only issued to those who haven’t overstated but if a computer glitch issues that esta will I be allowed into the country?

 

thank you

 

michal 

No, as you are no longer eligible to use the VWP, for life.

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The likelihood of a "computer glitch" issuing you a new ESTA is slim to none.

 

On the slightest possibility that it did, and you were given a new ESTA?  You would find yourself on a return flight home pretty quickly.

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Neither an ESTA nor a visa give you the right to enter the US. And CBP, having easy access to travel records, can easily turn you back on an incorrectly issued ESTA.

 

of course if it turns out the “computer glitch” was actually due to false information being submitted it would be even harder to get a visa in the future.

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On 29/11/2017 at 12:37 AM, Ontarkie said:

I'll humor the glitch. Say it gives you esta again. After a long long flight back to the US you get the officer looking at you like you have two heads. Thinking ya right buddy and putting your butt on the next plane out. 

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

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michal 

On 29/11/2017 at 2:36 PM, SusieQQQ said:

Neither an ESTA nor a visa give you the right to enter the US. And CBP, having easy access to travel records, can easily turn you back on an incorrectly issued ESTA.

 

of course if it turns out the “computer glitch” was actually due to false information being submitted it would be even harder to get a visa in the future.

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

cheers

michal 

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On 29/11/2017 at 10:53 AM, Going through said:

The likelihood of a "computer glitch" issuing you a new ESTA is slim to none.

 

On the slightest possibility that it did, and you were given a new ESTA?  You would find yourself on a return flight home pretty quickly.

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

cheers

michal 

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On 29/11/2017 at 4:03 AM, az2014 said:

No, as you are no longer eligible to use the VWP, for life.

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

cheers

michal 

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8 minutes ago, Michal K. said:

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

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michal 

It makes perfect sense. You abandoned your adjustment of status. You overstayed. No more VWP for you, ever.

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7 minutes ago, Michal K. said:

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

cheers

michal 

You didn't complete the process, therefore I believe the overstay does apply.

 

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25 minutes ago, Michal K. said:

Thank you for the reply. But remember that I was in the states converting my status. Which means I had the right to stay so therorethically I didn’t overstay anything at all since my spousal permit was pending. This should be noted somewhere on the system right? So even though  I was in the states converting my status and I left the country for whatever reason (abuse, sickness) it is still conisered an overstay of the original esta entry? It doesn’t make sense to me.

 

cheers

michal 

The overstay accrues but is forgiven upon completion of AOS.  If you leave before completion there is no longer any forgiveness 

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In your previous semi identical thread you said it was 2 days.

 

Changing the numbers does not change the answers.

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