OUT Magazine Encourages Readers to ‘Drop’ Gay Republican Friends

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OUT Magazine has encouraged its readers to “drop” gay conservative friends in a new article titled, “What To Do When Your Friend’s a Gay Republican.”

 

“We drop friends all the time for a whole variety of reasons—they messed with our loves lives, they lied, they weren’t supportive—so why do some people think it’s such an outlandish idea to dump them for their political views?” asked actor, singer, and writer Michael Musto in his column for OUT Magazine, which featured a picture of former Breitbart Senior Editor Milo Yiannopoulos. “I think there’s a misguided sense that, ‘It’s a free country and people have the right to believe what they want. Why should I let their political opinions interfere with a long-running friendship?'”

“The truth is, there is no law that ‘free speech’ means you have to keep a friend who promotes the Republican agenda any more than you have to keep someone who calls you a cow,” Musto continued. “Everything in a friendship that might have seemed good suddenly goes sour when I learn that they advocate Trump and his hideousness, which involves attempting to diminish rights for women, LGBTQs, Muslims, immigrants, the arts, and the non-rich, not to mention all those treasonous-sounding doings with Russia.”

“Am I supposed to understand that a gay friend is simply concerned about tax breaks and therefore can’t be bothered to devote any energy to little things like human rights?” he proclaimed. “Bye, Felicia!”

Musto goes on to admit that his social media experience has been more “gratifying” since he’s decided to block any user who disagrees with him, before insinuating that President Trump is somehow bad for the LGBT community.

 

 

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/07/17/magazine-encourages-readers-drop-gay-republican-friends/

 

https://www.out.com/michael-musto/2017/7/17/what-do-when-your-friends-gay-republican

 

Can see how well lefties tolerate diversity. Thought policing bigots in action masquerading as tolerant promoters of LGBT empowerment. What wonderful human beings. 

 

They should have learned that you only keep victim status with the left when you're a useful tool for their agenda.

Edited July 18, 2017 by IAMX

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It is interesting how intolerant the MDL is especially when it comes to politics and identity, or intersectionalism.  I had a girlfriend once that was clearly in the MDL.  She broke up with me as she learned my political/economic views.  I have several friends that are very much in the MDL and I have never considered ending my friendship with them.

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out with the wrong kind of gay, only certain gays allowed in that exclusive club.........

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8 hours ago, IAMX said:

 

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/07/17/magazine-encourages-readers-drop-gay-republican-friends/

https://www.out.com/michael-musto/2017/7/17/what-do-when-your-friends-gay-republican

Can see how well lefties tolerate diversity. Thought policing bigots in action masquerading as tolerant promoters of LGBT empowerment. What wonderful human beings. 

They should have learned that you only keep victim status with the left when you're a useful tool for their agenda.

I have seen this myself as well. They have a recall petition going here in SoCal and one of the proponents of the recall is a Gay Republican. They were doing signature gathering one day outside of a local supermarket when one of the leading Orange County Democrats comes up and says "Where's the Gay here" and starts berating him for being a Gay Republican. 

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1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

out with the wrong kind of gay, only certain gays allowed in that exclusive club.........

Isn't that what Caitlyn Jenner is finding out?

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Writer Ducks Tucker After Saying Gay Trump Supporters Should Be Shunned

 

Tucker Carlson called out a writer who advised his readers to shun their gay Republican friends, but then refused to explain the piece on the show. 

In a column titled "What To Do When Your Friend's a Gay Republican," Michael Musto wrote in Out magazine: "Similarly, if a real-life friend -- someone who knows my plight, my accomplishments, and my oppressions -- decides to trumpet in my face the alleged glories of the Republican party, I simply have to show them the hand and the door. Friendship over."

Musto was invited on to speak with Carlson about the piece, but he instead took to Twitter, declaring that his words would be "twisted" if he appeared for a debate.

I got an offer to be on TV! On Tucker Carlson's show! I didn't get back to them!

— michael musto (@mikeymusto) July 21, 2017

Carlson, calling Twitter "every coward's favorite refuge," said Musto's piece shows liberals' intolerance toward opposing viewpoints.

"It's hard to imagine us twisting your words, Michael Musto, into something dumber than what you actually said. Despite the insult, our offer remains open," said Carlson, adding it's "mindless" to write someone off because they don't agree with your politics. 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/26/michael-musto-ducks-tucker-carlson-after-saying-gay-trump-supporters-should-be-shunned

 

 

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On 7/18/2017 at 6:28 AM, Bill & Katya said:

It is interesting how intolerant the MDL is especially when it comes to politics and identity, or intersectionalism.  I had a girlfriend once that was clearly in the MDL.  She broke up with me as she learned my political/economic views.  I have several friends that are very much in the MDL and I have never considered ending my friendship with them.

hahaha omg she broke up with you because of your political opinions? How utterly pathetic. 

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29 minutes ago, OriZ said:

hahaha omg she broke up with you because of your political opinions? How utterly pathetic. 

Intolerant left.

 

A lot like Milo, I identify quite often with the left's liberal views, I'm just tired of their uncompromising stupidity. It's become worse than the right of last decade.

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3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Intolerant left.

 

A lot like Milo, I identify quite often with the left's liberal views, I'm just tired of their uncompromising stupidity. It's become worse than the right of last decade.

If I'm objective, I often spot hypocrisy on both sides. I couldn't be happier to not have a side.

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1 hour ago, OriZ said:

If I'm objective, I often spot hypocrisy on both sides. I couldn't be happier to not have a side.

I think there might be one poster that still posts on here (CEHST) that remembers my posts from a decade ago .. but for those who don't..

 

 

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Alright, so here's the scoop.

Brian Moore (socialist ticket) wasn't on the ballot, nor on the list of write-ins, which I asked for at the polling place. I was very disappointed. Nonetheless, I did pick Nader, and have my "I voted" sticker. Kinda pissed me off that 2 years ago the stickers were all in Spanish (I vote in the evening normally and all the English ones were long gone).

Ya vote.

Anyways, both Obama and McCain I find to be horrible choices, even if I find McCain to be the worst of the two. He's old, retarded, an idealist, and both of them have too many interests ahead of the populace they represent.

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I actually intended on voting for Alexander/Moore in 2008, they were for the Socialist Party.. but due to issues with them being on the ballot I voted for Nader instead.

 

On 9/28/2008 at 0:53 AM, IAMX said:

Lets see, I have Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Socialist, Peace and Freedom, Green Party, Independent, and even write-in!

What were your choices again? One of two, and one you'd never vote for? "Lesser of two evils", which was in your post, is pretty self-explanatory. It means "I have no choice".

This is not realism. It's retarded.

 

On 10/17/2008 at 2:03 PM, IAMX said:

When I registered at 18, I registered DTS (Decline to State), as in, I have no party affiliation. Seems that was always the best option.

I'm not voting for a single person who is in either party. The reasoning behind this is because both parties try to march in lock-step, and I'd rather vote for an individual, not someone bound to the views of a party. Views which change, by the way. Loyalty to a political party to me seems rather naive.

So Moore/Alexander are getting my votes this year for President. For the others, I have my sample ballot here and will look at third parties for the rest. For those that offer no third party or alternate choice between Democrat or Republican, I keep blank.

Edit: Yeah, we have some interesting ballot stuff as well.

Major fast rail line between Sacramento->LA and San Francisco-> LA. It's going to be very expensive but it's also worth it.

Yet again the "48 hour parental notification before minor has abortion" thing comes up, and I'll vote NO on it again.

Gay marriage comes up yet again, and an obvious NO to block it.

You'll notice many times in these threads in the back and forth between myself and others I repeatedly get told I'm throwing my vote away. 

 

You'll also notice that my arguing is by far mostly with those on the right.

 

I've come to grips with the fact that:

 

- I'll always be at odds with the groups of people who are most irrational at any given time (last decade I was often called moonbat, armchair activist, terrorist sympathizer, etc. for opposing Bush's wiretaps [along with virtually everything else he did], the Iraq War, etc.)

- I've never been party affiliated in my life and I'll never be party affiliated, not even party affiliated with third parties

- While some of my views have slightly changed since 2008 (don't think political rigidity is a good thing, but moral foundations are), they've largely stayed the same

- Over 90% of people are stuck in the idea that you must vote for "one or the other" -- and because of this mindset that's changed since the days of Perot it seems virtually no one understands my views (hence why people often call me a party member they oppose, criticizing the imaginary view that I suggest I'm "middle of the road"/"unbiased"/"completely objective", when in fact I'm "independent" and most certainly not hiding the fact that I'm biased and very much have my own independent views) or even criticize my perceived views (criticizing Libertarianism as if I'm a Libertarian and such has been the most popular on political forums for me)

 

I absolutely love self-criticizing, it just seems those of us who do aren't enough of the population, which needs to change.

Edited July 28, 2017 by IAMX

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16 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I think there might be one poster that still posts on here (CEHST) that remembers my posts from a decade ago .. but for those who don't..

 

 

 

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I actually intended on voting for Alexander/Moore in 2008, they were for the Socialist Party.. but due to issues with them being on the ballot I voted for Nader instead.

 

 

You'll notice many times in these threads in the back and forth between myself and others I repeatedly get told I'm throwing my vote away. 

 

You'll also notice that my arguing is by far mostly with those on the right.

 

I've come to grips with the fact that:

 

- I'll always be at odds with the groups of people who are most irrational at any given time (last decade I was often called moonbat, armchair activist, terrorist sympathizer, etc. for opposing Bush's wiretaps [along with virtually everything else he did], the Iraq War, etc.)

- I've never been party affiliated in my life and I'll never be party affiliated, not even party affiliated with third parties

- While some of my views have slightly changed since 2008 (don't think political rigidity is a good thing, but moral foundations are), they've largely stayed the same

- Over 90% of people are stuck in the idea that you must vote for "one or the other" -- and because of this mindset that's changed since the days of Perot it seems virtually no one understands my views (hence why people often call me a party member they oppose, criticizing the imaginary view that I suggest I'm "middle of the road"/"unbiased"/"completely objective", when in fact I'm "independent" and most certainly not hiding the fact that I'm biased and very much have my own independent views) or even criticize my perceived views (criticizing Libertarianism as if I'm a Libertarian and such has been the most popular on political forums for me)

 

I absolutely love self-criticizing, it just seems those of us who do aren't enough of the population, which needs to change.

Interesting. I can't say I understand the Nader decision but ok! lol. Hey Bush vs Gore I was actually for Gore at the time(I was also a teenager so that could explain it). The second time with Kerry it was a no brainer for Bush. Obama and Mccain both my wife and I actually thought Obama might be able to do some good but it didn't take very long before we got tired of him(much like it didn't take me long to get tired of most things Trump this time around), so it was Romney in 2012. Honestly, maybe I'm just picky. I don't like any of them or what any of them have done or are doing for over 2 decades now, they're all disgusting.

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10 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Interesting. I can't say I understand the Nader decision but ok! lol.

I've said on the forums that I'd be willing to vote for people like Dennis Kucinich or even Bernie Sanders (until he cucked himself to Hillary/DNC).

 

I'd consider someone on the Socialist ticket even now. 

 

The reason is that I consider foundation-elements to be more important than getting my way politically. I would vote against my own political interests for the sake of cleaning up the current Washington environment.

 

That's why I don't throw tantrums about Trump being elected. I didn't vote for him, I sure as hell didn't want him in, but he was fairly elected.

 

In fact.. here's some posts from me going after Obama birther conspiracy nuts..

 

On 11/2/2008 at 6:57 PM, IAMX said:

It won't stop the conspiracy theory nutjobs in filling the elections with irrelevant ####### regarding Obama.

 

On 11/2/2008 at 7:11 PM, IAMX said:

Do you work in the Hawaii state government? Do you know an exact timeline it takes to produce "verification"? Enlighten me.

I also suppose the state should have no more priority in their government function than to cater to conspiracy theorists, ignoring state law regarding who gets a copy of any Hawaiian's birth certificate.

 

All straw man ####### is apparently relevant.

 

On 11/2/2008 at 7:22 PM, IAMX said:

Then what if Biden is found to be an alien from Mars, we must amend the Constitution to not include Martians as able to be President. But since ex post facto is illegal, we may very well have to deal with 4 years of a Martian President. Think about the consequences, people.

 

On 11/2/2008 at 11:27 PM, IAMX said:

We (well, the rest of you) will find out after he becomes President. It's all a conspiracy.

 

On 11/3/2008 at 6:15 AM, IAMX said:

How many years has the Roswell and 9/11 conspiracy theories been hanging around?

Yeah, I guess, just because some people believe it, means we should take it seriously, despite all of the evidence to the contrary of their nutcase theories.

 

Hmm, since to even work for the FBI you need a birth certificate, I'm pretty sure the government knows Obama's status, which is why you don't see the ANYONE from the government, especially of Republicans in Congress or the Executive, ranting and raving about Obama's legitimacy in regards to citizenship requirements. Just conspiracy theorists with the assumption that, because Hawaii wants to uphold it's privacy laws regarding handing copies of birth certificates/records to the public, and Obama isn't going to give it away to anyone who wants it, that means he must not be eligible.

You sure waste lots of time on worthless issues. Maybe this is why the most popular candidates are so awful and have to answer extremely few tough questions. Thanks to conspiracy theory nutjobs and people worrying far more about every single person a candidate has ever talked to in their life, pertinent issues relating to the economy, civil rights, the war, etc. go almost entirely overlooked. That likely helps you justify your vote, because on these issues your candidate likely sucks, so a diversion from these issues is likely wise anyways.

 

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Hey Bush vs Gore I was actually for Gore at the time(I was also a teenager so that could explain it). The second time with Kerry it was a no brainer for Bush. Obama and Mccain both my wife and I actually thought Obama might be able to do some good but it didn't take very long before we got tired of him(much like it didn't take me long to get tired of most things Trump this time around), so it was Romney in 2012. Honestly, maybe I'm just picky. I don't like any of them or what any of them have done or are doing for over 2 decades now, they're all disgusting.

I've voted for Democrats and Republicans before.. I was an idiot who voted for Gore in 2000 (my 18th birthday was only a few months prior and I registered immediately after my bday), and I believe I voted for Kerry in 2004. 

 

I voted to recall Gray Davis, and I voted for Arnold as governor (I recall enjoying the latter as trollingly cheering "Arnold! Arnold! Arnold!" really upset lefties, especially Hispanic ones who wanted Gray Davis issuing full CA-DL's to illegals, very different from todays watered down DL's).

 

I voted every time against efforts to make gay marriage illegal.. voted every time against efforts to restrict abortion.. 

 

One thing that I would go back and change is my support for the statewide rail project. I truly believed the costs were what they initially said.. had I known a few years later it would balloon like 10 times higher upon starting the project, I'd have never voted for it since that made it well beyond affordable.

 

Oh, and lastly, more relevant to the thread, I've always surrounded myself with people who politically disagree with me.

 

I've been engaged 3 times. Married once, to my wife of nearly 7 years. My very first engagement was to a Christian woman. At this time I was an atheist (am agnostic now and have been for the last decade). I went to church with her, with her fully knowing it wouldn't change my views -- my heavily hypocritical Christian mother stupidly believed that this woman would change me into a Christian.  Anyways, I always did my best to meet her half way.. but she never did the same for me. She had a daughter out of wedlock and with a father who wanted nothing to do with his child, yet I took her on and was going to adopt her. She demanded this girl go to a private Christian school. I didn't like that idea. I wanted her going to a public school. So.. I suggested a private non-religious school or a religious non-denominational school (probably just generally gnostic). She refused to bargain, yet she claimed countless times she wanted me involved in this girls life. 

 

So.. we're engaged, she gets pregnant, she.. has an abortion. Wat? Her rationale.. we weren't married yet. And she wanted me to be there with her at PP to support her choice. I acknowledged he right to abortion but I refused to support it whatsoever or have anything to do with it. The lady at PP who talked to her over the phone seemed overjoyed at her choosing an abortion. The atheist was against the abortion and the Christian wanted to have it. Irony? Anyways, the reasons were really stupid, but yeah.. we wound up breaking up because of how absolutely uncompromising she was. I've been surrounded by religious people my entire life. My mother and I went at it many times over religion and other things. My dads side of the family were Catholic and said some nonsense about me being a son of the seventh son. I've been surrounded my entire life by people who think different, and I found first hand the best way to handle these people is by first trying to compromise, and when they don't, never relent on putting them in their place. I face this issue again with my wife but not with her, but my in-laws. When I met them we got along fine, when they thought I was a typical white cultureless pushover. Once they realized I have a backbone we really went at it. They even made threats to my wife about us moving from Ontario. 4 years later in Calgary, you see how well that went for them. It's always good to try with people that aren't like you, but when it fails, I find no reason to hesitate putting foot to ###. 

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7 minutes ago, IAMX said:

 

I've said on the forums that I'd be willing to vote for people like Dennis Kucinich or even Bernie Sanders (until he cucked himself to Hillary/DNC).

 

I'd consider someone on the Socialist ticket even now. 

 

The reason is that I consider foundation-elements to be more important than getting my way politically. I would vote against my own political interests for the sake of cleaning up the current Washington environment.

 

That's why I don't throw tantrums about Trump being elected. I didn't vote for him, I sure as hell didn't want him in, but he was fairly elected.

 

In fact.. here's some posts from me going after Obama birther conspiracy nuts..

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I've voted for Democrats and Republicans before.. I was an idiot who voted for Gore in 2000 (my 18th birthday was only a few months prior and I registered immediately after my bday), and I believe I voted for Kerry in 2004. 

 

I voted to recall Gray Davis, and I voted for Arnold as governor (I recall enjoying the latter as trollingly cheering "Arnold! Arnold! Arnold!" really upset lefties, especially Hispanic ones who wanted Gray Davis issuing full CA-DL's to illegals, very different from todays watered down DL's).

 

I voted every time against efforts to make gay marriage illegal.. voted every time against efforts to restrict abortion.. 

 

One thing that I would go back and change is my support for the statewide rail project. I truly believed the costs were what they initially said.. had I known a few years later it would balloon like 10 times higher upon starting the project, I'd have never voted for it since that made it well beyond affordable.

 

Oh, and lastly, more relevant to the thread, I've always surrounded myself with people who politically disagree with me.

 

I've been engaged 3 times. Married once, to my wife of nearly 7 years. My very first engagement was to a Christian woman. At this time I was an atheist (am agnostic now and have been for the last decade). I went to church with her, with her fully knowing it wouldn't change my views -- my heavily hypocritical Christian mother stupidly believed that this woman would change me into a Christian.  Anyways, I always did my best to meet her half way.. but she never did the same for me. She had a daughter out of wedlock and with a father who wanted nothing to do with his child, yet I took her on and was going to adopt her. She demanded this girl go to a private Christian school. I didn't like that idea. I wanted her going to a public school. So.. I suggested a private non-religious school or a religious non-denominational school (probably just generally gnostic). She refused to bargain, yet she claimed countless times she wanted me involved in this girls life. 

 

So.. we're engaged, she gets pregnant, she.. has an abortion. Wat? Her rationale.. we weren't married yet. And she wanted me to be there with her at PP to support her choice. I acknowledged he right to abortion but I refused to support it whatsoever or have anything to do with it. The lady at PP who talked to her over the phone seemed overjoyed at her choosing an abortion. The atheist was against the abortion and the Christian wanted to have it. Irony? Anyways, the reasons were really stupid, but yeah.. we wound up breaking up because of how absolutely uncompromising she was. I've been surrounded by religious people my entire life. My mother and I went at it many times over religion and other things. My dads side of the family were Catholic and said some nonsense about me being a son of the seventh son. I've been surrounded my entire life by people who think different, and I found first hand the best way to handle these people is by first trying to compromise, and when they don't, never relent on putting them in their place. I face this issue again with my wife but not with her, but my in-laws. When I met them we got along fine, when they thought I was a typical white cultureless pushover. Once they realized I have a backbone we really went at it. They even made threats to my wife about us moving from Ontario. 4 years later in Calgary, you see how well that went for them. It's always good to try with people that aren't like you, but when it fails, I find no reason to hesitate putting foot to ###. 

Whoa wall of text dude! I've been to church a few times due to baptisms or other stuff but no one expects me to become a Christian lol. Although personally, I would have preferred a private Christian school over a public school because that's how much I despise public schools. 

 

I actually come from a very religious Jewish family on my dad's side...related to the lubavitch rebbe. My dad used to go with his dad to the synagogue quite often but he himself isn't very religious, although traditional when it comes to certain things. They keep kosher in their house, clean everything for passover, honor Yom Kippur...but outside the house they will eat shrimp lol. They don't observe the sabbath. Now my dad has 3 kids - my two siblings and me, neither of which are even remotely religious, and 2 of whom are married to non Jews(my brother and I). Much of his family(cousins, etc) is still pretty religious and I'm sure they don't appreciate it but oh well. 

 

My wife and I happen to share similar views on most things but we do have some differences and we just agree to disagree. While Roman Catholic she doesn't practice either so that makes life easier, but politically some things she's more to the left than me and some more to the right. Just depends on the issue because like you and me she doesn't really have a side. We do have some very religious conservative friends as well as very liberal non religious friends. I think when you deliberately surround yourself with a bubble and refuse to associate with anyone who isn't completely like minded you become very closed minded.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Whoa wall of text dude! I've been to church a few times due to baptisms or other stuff but no one expects me to become a Christian lol. Although personally, I would have preferred a private Christian school over a public school because that's how much I despise public schools. 

 

I actually come from a very religious Jewish family on my dad's side...related to the lubavitch rebbe. My dad used to go with his dad to the synagogue quite often but he himself isn't very religious, although traditional when it comes to certain things. They keep kosher in their house, clean everything for passover, honor Yom Kippur...but outside the house they will eat shrimp lol. They don't observe the sabbath. Now my dad has 3 kids - my two siblings and me, neither of which are even remotely religious, and 2 of whom are married to non Jews(my brother and I). Much of his family(cousins, etc) is still pretty religious and I'm sure they don't appreciate it but oh well. 

 

My wife and I happen to share similar views on most things but we do have some differences and we just agree to disagree. While Roman Catholic she doesn't practice either so that makes life easier, but politically some things she's more to the left than me and some more to the right. Just depends on the issue because like you and me she doesn't really have a side. We do have some very religious conservative friends as well as very liberal non religious friends. I think when you deliberately surround yourself with a bubble and refuse to associate with anyone who isn't completely like minded you become very closed minded.

 

 

At least you don't have serious problems with what I had before. I'm honestly not even sure of my wife's religious views.. she's sort of between agnostic and gnostic. Politically we seem to agree a lot, my wife is quite reasonable and despite being rather clueless about American politics she's quite fed up with the left too regarding Trump.. we've seen people complain about him here in Calgary of all places. It's actually funny watching her complain about leftists.

 

But where the conflict has come into play has been with her in-laws. Examples:

 

- Her mother tried to swat the hand of my daughter and take spoons from her when she would eat with her left hand and put them in her right hand.. I told her never to do that again as this is not for her to decide.

- Her mother tried to take my daughter to a Buddhist temple and have some ritual done to my daughter as well as have her wear Buddhist jewelry. I said no way in hell to those as well.

- She tried countless times to insist on bringing my daughter to a temple with her.. I won't let her.

 

Of course, these are people who are first gen immigrants.. her family from her mother and older fled Laos, China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc. around the time of the Vietnam War and came to Canada. Most of them live in the Toronto area but some live in Montreal. I think one lives in Calgary but she's a ####### and we have nothing to do with her. Many of these people (the older generation) were under the impression that white people are cultureless and will adapt to any culture they come into contact with. I get the sense that this is a prevailing attitude among many non-whites throughout the world, as I've seen this attitude extremely prominent in California coming from Hispanics. It gets worse when this attitude is appeased and catered to. The younger generation, which includes my wife, and some of her cousins with whom we have exceptional relationships with, pretty much entirely buck their culture and are all Canadian. Hell, when I first talked to my wife on the phone before we were even together, I never even knew she was Asian. She sounded like any other typical Canadian with a Great Lakes accent like family of my own living in Michigan, and she had the demeanor of every Canadian I had talked to prior. She certainly acts nothing like the older generation in her family. I tried very hard to get along with those people as I do with anyone but they simply took on this attitude forgetting where they are, and presuming they would control my wife and myself by proxy through my wife. As an immigrant myself, it's rather mind boggling that anyone can excuse refusing to assimilate to where they move to.

 

But anyhow, regarding your parents, were they closed-minded about who you could or should date.. along with siblings? 

 

Growing up, my half-sister (the half-black one that's still alive and moved from California to Texas) used to get on mothers last nerves all the time. Mother was super conservative about her daughter (she let me do whatever I wanted) and always saw things through her own lens without adapting to the times or accepting her daughter for who she is. She would try and get me to tell my sister when she wanted a piercing in her teens and such not to get it and convince her not to, but I refused, often times fighting with mother instead, along with other judgmental family members, when they'd criticize her. Spent much of childhood defending my sister from other people, even getting my first school suspension for knocking a kids teeth our because he called my sister the n-word within ear-shot (she was extremely dark when young and looked very black, but now no one can overtly tell she's mixed -- actually mirrors my own daughter, people initially thought she wasn't even mine because she looked so Asian when born, now she looks like many of the women on my moms side when they were young). And given there's so many wealthy people on my dads side that own quite a lot of businesses throughout California, they are extremely conservative as well. There was a time when California was more politically diverse. I suspect many of them ran the hell away as the lefties took over.

 

When my sister first met my wife (Christmas 2010), we went to visit mom, and mom got super pissed that sister had a girlfriend and brought her over. She kept ranting and raving at me about people wanting her to change.. my god I've never seen someone so victimized, especially someone that clearly empathized significantly with blacks, of all people, she could never empathize with her own daughter.

 

Then of course some of my family that lives in the South, because I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012, whined endlessly trying to liken me to Democrats. 

 

I guess the thing is.. you can surround yourself with more diversity in the US.. but the question is, can you ever learn anything from it? Sort of like the FOX News mantra.. fair and balanced = get two polar extremes together and somewhere you might find middle ground? Not a chance.. you just have two polarized people, not middleground. So in some ways I'm amazed that there are people anymore who can actually compromise, it's not much in the environment in the US anymore, and this is one of the reasons I felt compelled to leave. 

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To be fair it is not just Gays that receive this treatment, any member of a preferred group that does not subscribe to the identi think is a target.