'Enough is enough': Theresa May says there's been 'far too much tolerance' of 'evil' Islamist extremism in the UK

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

Just now, Leon & Mylen said:

I do agree that we still need to be diligent in fighting those who are already radicalized and in vetting such from coming to the U.S.  This wouldn't change that.

Look at the link I gave previously, you currently have high integration rates that are working. To add people that only socialize with 5% non Muslim speaks for itself , these do not want to mix. If you were a Muslim parent living peacefully and safe with your family in the USA would you want your kids mixing with these no interest in integrating Muslims radicalizing your children. 

 

I bet a huge percentage of the settled Muslims living peacefully in the US have no interest in having their lives turned upside down. 

[Bugs 455]

1 minute ago, IAMX said:

 

 

Yep.. much different. 

 

White guy's fault?

 

And yes, many radicalized Muslims convert to such due to disenfranchisement - which is what happens when you are the victim of generalizations, bigotry, and, yes, racism.

[Bugs 455]

6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Ahh, its not an interpretation, you want the interpretation to be mainstream, a Reformation. Might take a few hundred years, what about now?

Radical Islamic terrorists adhere to a strictly literal interpretation of the Koran and focus on the violent parts.

Edited June 5, 2017 by Leon & Mylen

[Bugs 455]

2 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Look at the link I gave previously, you currently have high integration rates that are working. To add people that only socialize with 5% non Muslim speaks for itself , these do not want to mix. If you were a Muslim parent living peacefully and safe with your family in the USA would you want your kids mixing with these no interest in integrating Muslims radicalizing your children. 

 

I bet a huge percentage of the settled Muslims living peacefully in the US have no interest in having their lives turned upside down. 

This is why we need to take the initiative to reach out to them.

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Look at the link I gave previously, you currently have high integration rates that are working. To add people that only socialize with 5% non Muslim speaks for itself , these do not want to mix. If you were a Muslim parent living peacefully and safe with your family in the USA would you want your kids mixing with these no interest in integrating Muslims radicalizing your children. 

 

I bet a huge percentage of the settled Muslims living peacefully in the US have no interest in having their lives turned upside down. 

The left do their best to market to US Muslims that segregation is the fault of the white guy.

 

Which of course we also see plenty of from Southern Indian cultures as well as Muslim culture throughout Canada. White guy doing the deed here too I guess. Poor disenfranchised people.

 

 

Just now, Leon & Mylen said:

White guy's fault?

 

And yes, many radicalized Muslims convert to such due to disenfranchisement - which is what happens when you are the victim of generalizations, bigotry, and, yes, racism.

 

Walking back, back, back.. don't trip.

[Bugs 455]

1 minute ago, IAMX said:

The left do their best to market to US Muslims that segregation is the fault of the white guy.

 

Which of course we also see plenty of from Southern Indian cultures as well as Muslim culture throughout Canada. White guy doing the deed here too I guess. Poor disenfranchised people.

 

 

 

Walking back, back, back.. don't trip.

Enjoy.

 

And goodnight.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

1 minute ago, Leon & Mylen said:

This is why we need to take the initiative to reach out to them.

 

But your assuming they want what you want which is not true.

 

Chaos rules in their world, as strong as you are in your beliefs they are in their's, but you want to wish them well but it is not what you will get in return.

[Boiler 47,479]

5 minutes ago, Leon & Mylen said:

This is why we need to take the initiative to reach out to them.

They reached out to this lady with a knife and killed her:

 

[Bugs 455]

2 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

 

But your assuming they want what you want which is not true.

 

Chaos rules in their world, as strong as you are in your beliefs they are in their's, but you want to wish them well but it is not what you will get in return.

Some won't.  But some will.  And it certainly doesn't hurt to try.

[Bugs 455]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They reached out to this lady with a knife and killed her:

 

I was referring to non-radicalized peaceful Muslims that do not believe in these things.

 

Do try and keep up.

[IAMX 3,055]

Doesn't hurt to try.. as if western nations haven't been trying to be tolerant to Islam for the last handful of decades. Pretty sure the resurgence of right wing populism shows people are indeed tired of this failing method.

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

6 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Interesting article, it's good to see that 52% of American Muslims have non Muslim friends it shows integration in the community, compare this with just 5% outside the US. 

"What do American Muslims believe?

Our 2011 survey of Muslim Americans found that roughly half of U.S. Muslims (48%) say their own religious leaders have not done enough to speak out against Islamic extremists.

 

Living in a religiously pluralistic society, Muslim Americans are more likely than Muslims in many other nations to have many non-Muslim friends. Only about half (48%) of U.S. Muslims say all or most of their close friends are also Muslims, compared with a global median of 95% in the 39 countries we surveyed."

 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/26/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

So 52% think their leaders have done enough. The majority 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Update:

 

One of the London Bridge terrorists was carrying an identity card issued in Ireland when he was shot dead, security sources in Dublin said. 

The revelation comes after reports one of the three men had also appeared in a Channel 4 documentary about jihadis in the UK.

The 27-year-old, said to be from Barking in east London, was pictured lying on the ground after police arrived on Saturday night and shot the attackers dead.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-terror-attack-terrorist-irish-identity-card-shot-dead-borough-market-ireland-security-dublin-a7773221.html

irish identity card...

Old School!!!

Edited June 5, 2017 by Jacque67

[IAMX 3,055]

3 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So 52% think their leaders have done enough. The majority 

Doesn't even add up to 100% according to the cited poll, which was 2011:

 

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Many Muslims fault their own leaders for failing to challenge Islamic extremists. Nearly half (48%) say that Muslim leaders in the United States have not done enough to speak out against Islamic extremists; only about a third (34%) say Muslim leaders have done enough in challenging extremists. At the same time, 68% say that Muslim Americans themselves are cooperating as much as they should with law enforcement.

 

And then there's this::

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The poll says it's negligible, but I don't consider over 250,000 (8%) estimated people to be negligible that justify suicide bombing. That's pretty alarming. Estimated 700,000 (21%) support Muslim extremism.. again, what the hell?

 

As you can see, overwhelmingly more Muslims don't identify as American first, and vast majority expect government to support them.. which emphasizes my posts about ensuring foreign assimilation (61% polled are first gen) and why it's so important. While the Christian part is disappointing, combining this with other trends shows why Muslims are viewed suspiciously. I can only wonder what that trend is today.

 

Sufficed to say, if @Mr&Mrs G.finds the US version of Muslims that much better, it only shows how much worse Muslims are in other western countries. The reasoning is pretty obvious.. they demand assimilation far less, due to their rife leftist attitude that feels compelled to destroy their own countries' long prevailing culture (common leftist ideology worldwide), try and adopt multiculturalism values, which only means the stronger culture (Islam, since leftists have no culture and are far more willing to assimilate to foreign ones) wins. It also explains why Californians adopt pro-illegal immigrant culture.. vastly more illegals, leftists preferring to coddle and support them over their own country's laws and customs, thus the foreign culture wins out. This supports the rights view the left often call "paranoid" (unjustifiably) when it comes to foreigners changing the American way of life. 

Edited June 5, 2017 by IAMX