California politics updates: $400 billion for single-payer healthcare, audit demanded in election of state Democratic Party chair

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10 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Illegales por vida! Eh paisa? 

The damn paisas....... As my neighbor says "I am down with the paisas". 

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8 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

The damn paisas....... As my neighbor says "I am down with the paisas". 

Me too. 

 

Edited May 25, 2017 by IAMX

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6 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Me too. 

 

That is funny. Yeah this conversation was before the election last year and I was at my neighbors party around pretty much all Americans of Mexican descent. So my neighbor and me got into a discussion about Trump, and of course a number of Mexicans think that he is racist. So we got into a heated discussion where she said stated "She is down with the paisas". What got me is any other day she tells me she how she has to deal with the Undocumented Mexican and Armenian people, and how they try to game the system to get over on Glendale Water and Power.

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6 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

That is funny. Yeah this conversation was before the election last year and I was at my neighbors party around pretty much all Americans of Mexican descent. So my neighbor and me got into a discussion about Trump, and of course a number of Mexicans think that he is racist. So we got into a heated discussion where she said stated "She is down with the paisas". What got me is any other day she tells me she how she has to deal with the Undocumented Mexican and Armenian people, and how they try to game the system to get over on Glendale Water and Power.

Not uncommon.. to maintain those beliefs the lefties do they have to ignore reality to do so and you provided a prototype example. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

17 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I do seem to recall something about passing a healthcare bill to find out whats in it ROFL

That's why I pointed the irony of Republicans voting for a health care bill, they didn't even read, despite making such a big issue about democrats not reading the ACA before passing it. Yes, another case of 'Republicans only minding when the Dems do it'.

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17 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Republicans didn't have anything to do with the ACA being passed and signed into law. If the Democrats wanted single payer, they should have done it instead of passing this mess.  As to broadly meeting its goals, does that mean reducing the numbers of insurers for most people?

That's right, they didn't do anything. They sat on the sidelines trowing shade at everything the Dems did, and then whined like a bunch of petulant children. 

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4 hours ago, Póg mo said:

That's right, they didn't do anything. They sat on the sidelines trowing shade at everything the Dems did, and then whined like a bunch of petulant children. 

Kind of like what the Democrats are doing right now.  See how that works?  All the federal politicians are partisan hacks that act like petulant children that just cry when things don't go their way.  Quite honestly it is sickening, and now that there is an outsider in the WH they are ganging up as we certainly cannot have someone from outside their little family running things.  Did I believe Trump could drain the proverbial swamp, probably not, but I am certainly hoping he could make some positive changes which we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.  Instead, the caterwauling will continue from politicos from both sides aided by the mid and far left, and we will be back to business as usual.  Keep spending money buying votes and keep their cushy do nothing jobs.

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9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Kind of like what the Democrats are doing right now.  See how that works?  All the federal politicians are partisan hacks that act like petulant children that just cry when things don't go their way.  Quite honestly it is sickening, and now that there is an outsider in the WH they are ganging up as we certainly cannot have someone from outside their little family running things.  Did I believe Trump could drain the proverbial swamp, probably not, but I am certainly hoping he could make some positive changes which we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.  Instead, the caterwauling will continue from politicos from both sides aided by the mid and far left, and we will be back to business as usual.  Keep spending money buying votes and keep their cushy do nothing jobs.

I honestly don't see a valid comparison to the whiners and conspiracy theorists regarding Obama and his birth certificate versus all the Trump tantrums the left have been throwing. The left are way, way beyond what the geniuses on the right pulled after Obama's inauguration.

 

The left have done all they could to contest the election itself, tried to harass electors to go the opposite way their states voted, then whined like little *****es endlessly about the irrelevant national popular vote, pulled some ####### measuring contest regarding the inauguration, blamed the Russians hacking the election for Trumps victory, associated anyone with Trumps campaign that ever talked to or did business with Russians in their lifetimes to be part of this conspiracy, now its dwindled down into a much more exaggerated opposition. The anti-Trump children hijacked womens rights movement and tried to make opposition to their stupidity about opposition to women (even though women helped Trump win, the real womens march, to the voting booths), the media has shilled endlessly for the last year and a half whether it be for Hillary or turning everything Trump does into the apocalypse or the end of his Presidency. 

 

I think California epitomizes everything wrong with the left, and the left really think this tryhard effort and dramatics are going to help them. How little they realize they look incredibly stupid and much more akin to my five year old, although she shows a lot more maturity than they do.

Edited May 25, 2017 by IAMX

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28 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I honestly don't see a valid comparison to the whiners and conspiracy theorists regarding Obama and his birth certificate versus all the Trump tantrums the left have been throwing. The left are way, way beyond what the geniuses on the right pulled after Obama's inauguration.

 

The left have done all they could to contest the election itself, tried to harass electors to go the opposite way their states voted, then whined like little *****es endlessly about the irrelevant national popular vote, pulled some ####### measuring contest regarding the inauguration, blamed the Russians hacking the election for Trumps victory, associated anyone with Trumps campaign that ever talked to or did business with Russians in their lifetimes to be part of this conspiracy, now its dwindled down into a much more exaggerated opposition. The anti-Trump children hijacked womens rights movement and tried to make opposition to their stupidity about opposition to women (even though women helped Trump win, the real womens march, to the voting booths), the media has shilled endlessly for the last year and a half whether it be for Hillary or turning everything Trump does into the apocalypse or the end of his Presidency. 

 

I think California epitomizes everything wrong with the left, and the left really think this tryhard effort and dramatics are going to help them. How little they realize they look incredibly stupid and much more akin to my five year old, although she shows a lot more maturity than they do.

I don't disagree that the mid/far left has taken this whole thing to new heights, and are on a higher level than even the birthers from back in 2009.  I think the biggest difference is they have the mainstream biased media on their side which brings back the question; who is really driving this whole thing?  Sometimes it looks like the Leftist leaders are in the driver seat, and other times it appears the Leftist mainstream media is at the wheel.

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13 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I don't disagree that the mid/far left has taken this whole thing to new heights, and are on a higher level than even the birthers from back in 2009.  I think the biggest difference is they have the mainstream biased media on their side which brings back the question; who is really driving this whole thing?  Sometimes it looks like the Leftist leaders are in the driver seat, and other times it appears the Leftist mainstream media is at the wheel.

A good question.. it's clearly the media that whats their establishment buddies back in office, regardless of party. Even if Hillary got trounced in the GE they'd have been happier if it had been Bush, Rubio, etc. than Trump.

 

They're playing the long game and like social media jerks like Twitter and Facebook doing their best to steer opinion in the direction they want rather than just relay information. Hence why I don't trust a single news outlet.

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On 5/23/2017 at 1:32 PM, Bill & Katya said:

I know what you mean.  Isn't this why Vermont dropped its plans for a single payer statewide system?

Oh they're still trying to figure out ways to make it happen.

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6 hours ago, IAMX said:

I honestly don't see a valid comparison to the whiners and conspiracy theorists regarding Obama and his birth certificate versus all the Trump tantrums the left have been throwing. The left are way, way beyond what the geniuses on the right pulled after Obama's inauguration.

 

The left have done all they could to contest the election itself, tried to harass electors to go the opposite way their states voted, then whined like little *****es endlessly about the irrelevant national popular vote, pulled some ####### measuring contest regarding the inauguration, blamed the Russians hacking the election for Trumps victory, associated anyone with Trumps campaign that ever talked to or did business with Russians in their lifetimes to be part of this conspiracy, now its dwindled down into a much more exaggerated opposition. The anti-Trump children hijacked womens rights movement and tried to make opposition to their stupidity about opposition to women (even though women helped Trump win, the real womens march, to the voting booths), the media has shilled endlessly for the last year and a half whether it be for Hillary or turning everything Trump does into the apocalypse or the end of his Presidency. 

 

I think California epitomizes everything wrong with the left, and the left really think this tryhard effort and dramatics are going to help them. How little they realize they look incredibly stupid and much more akin to my five year old, although she shows a lot more maturity than they do.

The difference between the left and the right is the left riots and beats people up when they disagree and they are funded by the Nazi war criminal George Soros. They complain about some imaginary Russian election involvement but are okay taking money from a foreign Nazi piece of trash.

Edited May 26, 2017 by jg121783

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4 hours ago, jg121783 said:

The difference between the left and the right is the left riots and beats people up when they disagree and they are funded by the Nazi war criminal George Soros. They complain about some imaginary Russian election involvement but are okay taking money from a foreign Nazi piece of trash.

And choose to ignore when the leaders the adore do bad things.

 

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

And choose to ignore when the leaders the adore do bad things.

 

Spot on.