Chaffetz: Americans may need to choose between iPhones and healthcare

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

If you are in the Health Care biz yes.

I don't see why I as a consumer care about that at all if it brings down prices. It means more money left in my pocket at the end of the month.

Edited March 8, 2017 by cyberfx1024

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Totally agree with this as well. If people are allowed to buy across state lines then poof the cost goes way down right there. 

Insurance companies can and do sell across state lines, they just cannot undermine markets in the states they sell.  

[OriZ 3,157]

Just now, Boiler said:

If you are in the Health Care biz yes.

Well I'm not and neither should the government be.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Insurance companies can and do sell across state lines, they just cannot undermine markets in the states they sell.  

Ok, I understand that point. But what I am saying is directly competing and having health plans I can buy nationwide and not having state specific plans. I can show you a page right now for Federal Employee Health Care where they have the same plan for different states like NC and SC. But the price in SC is almost $100 more than it is in NC. Why the discrepancy if it's the same GD plan?????

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

Ok, I understand that point. But what I am saying is directly competing and having health plans I can buy nationwide and not having state specific plans. I can show you a page right now for Federal Employee Health Care where they have the same plan for different states like NC and SC. But the price in SC is almost $100 more than it is in NC. Why the discrepancy if it's the same GD plan?????

Not sure I have that answer, does SC have requirements that add to the cost?  

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

7 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Well I'm not and neither should the government be.

You come from Israel right?   Didn't you have Universal coverage there? 

[Boiler 46,973]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Not sure I have that answer, does SC have requirements that add to the cost?  

Prices vary across counties, my county price is a fair bit more than if I lived in Denver.

[Boiler 46,973]

11 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Well I'm not and neither should the government be.

Politicians make the rules, who funds the politicians?

[yuna628 9,834]

32 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Any plan without that is a non starter for me. What is the argument against it anyway because I can't think of any.

There are plenty of pros yes but there are some cons, mostly that I think could be worked on if they actually tried. Insurance industries wouldn't like it though. Why would they want to give up a monopoly?

 

For starters perhaps someone with a more economic focus could look at the pros and cons of across state line sales in the following links and see how the issues therein might be addressed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html

http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20170306/NEWS/170309788

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-06/selling-health-insurance-across-state-lines-won-t-save-money

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-pros-and-cons-of-selling-health-insurance-across-state-lines/

http://www.naic.org/documents/topics_interstate_sales_myths.pdf

http://khn.org/news/health-insurance-across-state-lines/

Edited March 8, 2017 by yuna628

[OriZ 3,157]

Just now, ccneat said:

You come from Israel right?   Didn't you have Universal coverage there? 

Yeah, we just discussed that earlier today in the other thread. Why?

 

BTW in this reply I just meant that they shouldn't let insurance companies get in the way, lobby against it etc, they are not in the healthcare business, they are the government and they should look after the people. Naive I know but hey...

[Boiler 46,973]

Just now, OriZ said:

Yeah, we just discussed that earlier today in the other thread. Why?

 

BTW in this reply I just meant that they shouldn't let insurance companies get in the way, lobby against it etc, they are not in the healthcare business, they are the government and they should look after the people. Naive I know but hey...

Why should Healthcare be any different?

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

9 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Not sure I have that answer, does SC have requirements that add to the cost?  

No, I will show it later when I get home and I can take a screen shot. 

[OriZ 3,157]

7 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

There are plenty of pros yes but there are some cons, mostly that I think could be worked on if they actually tried. Insurance industries wouldn't like it though. Why would they want to give up a monopoly?

 

For starters perhaps someone with a more economic focus could look at the pros and cons of across state line sales in the following links and see how the issues therein might be addressed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html

http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20170306/NEWS/170309788

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-06/selling-health-insurance-across-state-lines-won-t-save-money

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-pros-and-cons-of-selling-health-insurance-across-state-lines/

http://www.naic.org/documents/topics_interstate_sales_myths.pdf

http://khn.org/news/health-insurance-across-state-lines/

It is true that each state has a different cost of living and different cost of care. But nothing in those links seems like a serious hurdle to me, like you said it could be worked on if they tried.

[OriZ 3,157]

6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why should Healthcare be any different?

huh?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

43 minutes ago, Dakine10 said:

  Anyone who thinks Obama didn't get the majority of votes in either presidential election has a problem with reading or comprehension. That is not a flame, it's the truth.

Maybe it's you that is struggling with reading is fundamental.  He is clearly saying the majority of Americans did not cast a vote for Obama and is clearly saying he means of the entire population, not of the people that voted. Now is that argument relative.  Probably not, but he clearly articulated what he was saying. Attack the argument not the person, becuse your sophomoric response does not bolster your point.

 

You just made me use way too many 3 syllable words and type way too much.