House Republicans unveil Obamacare replacement bill

[Dashinka 25,898]

I guess we and they will be able to read it first this time.

 

House Republicans released draft legislation Monday to replace former president Barack Obama’s signature health care law, proposing to phase out the Affordable Care Act's Medicaid expansion and change the law's subsidies for private insurance.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/06/house-republicans-unveil-obamacare-replacement-bill/98826894/

 

http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/documents/AmericanHealthCareAct.pdf

Edited March 6, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Sounds good. Get rid of health care for those that can't afford it. Survival of the fittest, the rest be damned. And take care of the insurance companies because they have have our best interests at heart. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

But if they are repealing and replacing it, they are in fact only changing it. I guess they need to tell the MDRs they are repealing it, otherwise they'd have to admit that not everything in Obamacare was bad.

 

Calling it a repeal is the same as stating you have repealed driving, by having traded your existing sedan for a SUV. 

 

 

[spookyturtle 9,466]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

But if they are repealing and replacing it, they are in fact only changing it. I guess they need to tell the MDRs they are repealing it, otherwise they'd have to admit that not everything in Obamacare was bad.

 

Calling it a repeal is the same as stating you have repealed driving, by having traded your existing sedan for a SUV. 

 

 

The most important thing is that it won't be called Obamacare anymore. That is of major importance. Obama was a narcissistic egomaniac and needs to be taken down a few rungs by a real man. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, spookyturtle said:

The most important thing is that it won't be called Obamacare anymore. That is of major importance. Obama was a narcissistic egomaniac and needs to be taken down a few rungs by a real man. 

 

So, we will need to wait until the next president is inaugurated, then?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

So, we will need to wait until the next president is inaugurated, then?

No way. Things are going to be so good, I can see Trump serving 4 terms, maybe 5 just to outdo FDR.  

[OriZ 3,165]

I'm kinda scratching my head trying to figure this thing out:

 

Instead, to keep people from buying coverage only when they need it, insurers could raise premiums 30% for those jumping back into the market.

 

So if say the premium is 1,000 a month, they can raise it to 1,300 and that's supposed to scare you away from buying it only once you get sick?

 

And what if you didn't wait till you get sick but due to different circumstances(lost your job etc) need to get back into the market?

 

 

So far too many questions, not enough answers.

 

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

24 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

But if they are repealing and replacing it, they are in fact only changing it. I guess they need to tell the MDRs they are repealing it, otherwise they'd have to admit that not everything in Obamacare was bad.

 

Calling it a repeal is the same as stating you have repealed driving, by having traded your existing sedan for a SUV. 

 

 

I don't recall anyone including Trump ever saying every single peice of it was bad. 

 

You do realize Obummer care handed control of our health system to the insurance companies?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

29 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

But if they are repealing and replacing it, they are in fact only changing it. I guess they need to tell the MDRs they are repealing it, otherwise they'd have to admit that not everything in Obamacare was bad.

 

Calling it a repeal is the same as stating you have repealed driving, by having traded your existing sedan for a SUV. 

 

 

If the individual mandate is repealed, the ACA will be destroyed.

[CaliCat 3,957]

20 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I'm kinda scratching my head trying to figure this thing out:

 

Instead, to keep people from buying coverage only when they need it, insurers could raise premiums 30% for those jumping back into the market.

 

So if say the premium is 1,000 a month, they can raise it to 1,300 and that's supposed to scare you away from buying it only once you get sick?

 

And what if you didn't wait till you get sick but due to different circumstances(lost your job etc) need to get back into the market?

 

 

So far too many questions, not enough answers.

 

 

 

That will give the insurance companies free reign to hike prices every time you change providers. I think in alternate reality, higher prices mean "cheaper", because the opposition to Obamacare is based on cost to the American people.

[CaliCat 3,957]

22 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I don't recall anyone including Trump ever saying every single peice of it was bad. 

 

You do realize Obummer care handed control of our health system to the insurance companies?

 

He did. You may have missed that one single interview where Trump said Obamacare was a disaster. I believe it was aired during Super bowl, that's why you may have missed it.

Edited March 7, 2017 by CaliCat

[CaliCat 3,957]

38 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

No way. Things are going to be so good, I can see Trump serving 4 terms, maybe 5 just to outdo FDR.  

 

Bigly!! So bigly!

[Jacque67 7,328]

Kushner, along with Trump’s economic adviser Gary Cohn, strategist Steve Bannon and policy adviser Stephen Miller, “have emphasized the potential political costs to moving aggressively,” the Post’s Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein write, while another group of White House advisers is eager to make big changes to the health care industry.

For Kushner, the cost of following through on his father-in-law’s repeated and unambiguous promises to repeal the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, is more personal than for other aides to the president.

No, affordable care for a life-threatening illness afflicting a family member is not on the line, as it is for many Americans. Instead, it’s a family member’s business. 

Kushner’s brother, Josh, co-founded Oscar, an insurance company that is valued at $2.7 billion. That would be an obvious appearance of a conflict of interest, at the very least, and the potential for a conflict is even greater because Oscar was started for the express purpose of making money on the state exchanges for individual insurance that were created as part of the Affordable Care Act.

Oscar, a website and app, sells insurance directly to individuals who aren’t already eligible for insurance through their employer or a government program. Under the ACA, individuals who aren’t already covered are required to buy insurance or pay a penalty under what is called the individual mandate. And the federal government may partially subsidize the plans that the Oscar app sells and manages. Precisely how big that subsidy is depends on the type of plan and the buyer’s income and, eventually, on the health care law that the Trump administration passes ― or fails to pass.

[CaliCat 3,957]

23 minutes ago, ccneat said:

If the individual mandate is repealed, the ACA will be destroyed.

 

But if they do that, then the repeal will only mean we're back where we were before Obamacare. It would be another slap in the face of those who voted for Trump.

[Jacque67 7,328]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-obamacare-trump-oscar-app_us_58b5f4c8e4b060480e0c9e18

 

gotta wait until Josh retools his $2.7BN healthcare app!!!!