I’m a gay New Yorker — and I’m coming out as a conservative

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

5 hours ago, Umka36 said:

Canada should build a wall and make the US pay.

Like this? 

[OriZ 3,157]

7 hours ago, smilesammich said:

op is shifting his personal brand to appeal to a different base, he's explained it all very simply in the post. he knew he'd get backlash from interviewing milo and he's made the conscious decision to profit from that. looks to me like he's hoping to ride milo's coattails. would anyone be posting an article from a gay dude supporting liberal themes/leaders? hell naw, they're a dime a dozen. but who is getting a lot of play, a lot of air time right about now..oh look its a gay dude who thinks gay dudes should try to convert to hetero or get back in the closet. phenomenon? hardly. it's called jumping a bandwagon.

The phenomenon was not someone gay doing what he did, the phenomenon is what we have also talked about here numerous times - how judgmental some on the left can be, while accusing others of prejudice. I say practice what you preach and they are clearly not doing so.

 

Speaking of the latter point, you say violence in the face of violence(and I will add that in my view it is only perceived, indirect violence) is justified. How is that consistent when liberals are all up in arms when there's violence in, say, wars, or a country defending itself from terrorism, then no form of violence is justified even though the violence on both sides is real and even as a form of self defense. Here you have violence coming from one side(the one that's so opposed to violence) against what may or may not cause violence coming from the other side, depending on what you believe. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.

 

7 hours ago, smilesammich said:

good for the brand building, i'm not questioning if he is actually gay or not. milo either. personal branding for profit is all the rage with kids today, actual spines not so much.

I believe Milo also happens to be Jewish(not in practice granted). He's got to be the weirdest gay anti-gay Jewish white supremacist ever.

[Merle 458]

6 hours ago, smilesammich said:

hey, you asked for an example - i gave you one and you switched it up to needing an example of a senator or congressman not as you said..someone who doesn't matter. clearly a judgement all your own.

But your example was the equivalent of me saying  "some in the alt right movement are calling for genocide. Heck my next door neighbor Larry is in the Klan and i heard him saying something about genocide last week." The point is who really cares about what that guy you posted about really thinks? Hes about as relevant as my fictitiois neighbor Larry. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

17 minutes ago, OriZ said:

The phenomenon was not someone gay doing what he did, the phenomenon is what we have also talked about here numerous times - how judgmental some on the left can be, while accusing others of prejudice. I say practice what you preach and they are clearly not doing so.

 

Speaking of the latter point, you say violence in the face of violence(and I will add that in my view it is only perceived, indirect violence) is justified. How is that consistent when liberals are all up in arms when there's violence in, say, wars, or a country defending itself from terrorism, then no form of violence is justified even though the violence on both sides is real and even as a form of self defense. Here you have violence coming from one side(the one that's so opposed to violence) against what may or may not cause violence coming from the other side, depending on what you believe. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.

 

I believe Milo also happens to be Jewish(not in practice granted). He's got to be the weirdest gay anti-gay Jewish white supremacist ever.

it's just never going to be acceptable to me. i fully believe that if a man wants to publicly endorse white supremacist beliefs he gets whatever is coming to him. i think a sucker punch is perfectly acceptable. no weapons involved. kkk on the loosing end of a brawl? we're headed back to the 50s, sure why not. if you're a racist, in my book, you deserve it. i really don't see the comparison with blanket bans and violence towards an entire race or religion.

it's about personal branding as a marketing tool when it comes to milo. he might as well be a mexican transgender teen mom on welfare. his shtick wouldn't change.

[smilesammich 10,727]

8 minutes ago, Merle said:

But your example was the equivalent of me saying  "some in the alt right movement are calling for genocide. Heck my next door neighbor Larry is in the Klan and i heard him saying something about genocide last week." The point is who really cares about what that guy you posted about really thinks? Hes about as relevant as my fictitiois neighbor Larry. 

not equivalent. your willful ignorance of the altright, or more specifically richard spencer, is your own business. doesn't change reality.

[Merle 458]

10 hours ago, smilesammich said:

from the nazi who got punched on camera (awesome sauce fyi).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

I have no dog in this hunt but would you have been ok with a radical lefty being sucker punched for exercising his rights? 

[smilesammich 10,727]

7 hours ago, Merle said:

I have no dog in this hunt but would you have been ok with a radical lefty being sucker punched for exercising his rights? 

is this radical lefty racist and calling for ethnic cleansing?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

13 hours ago, smilesammich said:

it's just never going to be acceptable to me. i fully believe that if a man wants to publicly endorse white supremacist beliefs he gets whatever is coming to him. i think a sucker punch is perfectly acceptable. no weapons involved. kkk on the loosing end of a brawl? we're headed back to the 50s, sure why not. if you're a racist, in my book, you deserve it. i really don't see the comparison with blanket bans and violence towards an entire race or religion.

it's about personal branding as a marketing tool when it comes to milo. he might as well be a mexican transgender teen mom on welfare. his shtick wouldn't change.

So if a guy endorses black supremacy ideas does he deserve whatever he gets 

[Boiler 46,865]

45 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So if a guy endorses black supremacy ideas does he deserve whatever he gets 

That is different, he is oppressed.

[Merle 458]

6 hours ago, smilesammich said:

is this radical lefty racist and calling for ethnic cleansing?

How about a college professor calling for white genocide last Christmas Eve?

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So if a guy endorses black supremacy ideas does he deserve whatever he gets 

that isn't what's going on here, the alt right is not comprised of some sort of black panther base - no matter how convenient that might be to your argument.

[smilesammich 10,727]

8 minutes ago, Merle said:

How about a college professor calling for white genocide last Christmas Eve?

link.

[Umka36 781]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

link.

http://www.phillytrib.com/news/college-professor-wanted-white-genocide-for-christmas/article_4ba4628d-a5ba-55fa-8ac5-933def043e10.html

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/health/drexel-professor-white-genocide-trnd/index.html

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

3 minutes ago, Umka36 said:

http://www.phillytrib.com/news/college-professor-wanted-white-genocide-for-christmas/article_4ba4628d-a5ba-55fa-8ac5-933def043e10.html

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/health/drexel-professor-white-genocide-trnd/index.html

 

LOL now what 

[smilesammich 10,727]

10 minutes ago, Umka36 said:

http://www.phillytrib.com/news/college-professor-wanted-white-genocide-for-christmas/article_4ba4628d-a5ba-55fa-8ac5-933def043e10.html

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/health/drexel-professor-white-genocide-trnd/index.html

 

 

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

LOL now what 

lol well, both of these links report before the university met with the professor (as noted in both philly and cnn links, this had not yet taken place)

 

follow up suggests, the tweets (which were never public) were satirical, "Politics and history teacher George Ciccariello-Maher insists he was mocking white supremacists’ “imaginary” danger" and considering dude is white and the idiocy of legitimately fearing white genocide is on the horizon, makes total and absolute sense.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-ciccariello-maher-white-genocide_us_5861a56fe4b0de3a08f5f7d0

Edited February 15, 2017 by smilesammich