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Hello everyone,

I hope someone can calm me down a bit and may have been in a similar position.

I came to the US on a K1 this April and we filed for AOS in October. I had a medical done in my home country in December 2015, so about a year ago.

Yesterday I received a RFE asking for a Vaccination Supplement to Form I-693. That means I should only need the vaccinations part right? I already got a flu shot for this year a couple of weeks ago, so I do have all vaccinations required.

Unfortunately, I couldnt find a single civil surgeon in the Kansas City area who'd do the vaccination transcription only, so I probably will have to do a complete new medical, the cheapest $150 :(

The "concern" I have right now is following: I am taking escitalopram for anxiety and I also have several scars from self-harming when I was a teenager. Could those two things be a possible problem at the new physical or have any impact on receiving my Green Card now? I passed the medical in my home country, but I was super panicky back then that these things would be an issue.

Anyone know if I should get a statement from my family doctor as to why I'm taking the medication and that I am no risk to myself/others?

Thank you so much in advance!


K1-Timeline (I'm the beneficiary): :wub:

2015-08-22 : I-129F Filed

2015-09-09 : I-129F USCIS Received

2015-09-11 : I-129F NOA1

2015-09-14 : I-129F NOA1 (e-notification, sent to CSC)

2015-09-23 : I-129F NOA1 (Hardcopy)

2015-10-15 : I-129F NOA2

2015-11-06 : NVC Case #

2015-11-09 : Embassy Received

2015-11-28 : Package 3 Received

2015-12-01 : Medical (Munich)

2015-12-17 : Package 3 Sent

2016-01-07 : Interview (Frankfurt) => approved!

2016-01-13 : Visa Received

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Your medical exam is mostly for shots, blood test, urine test (and poop test) if required. It's not a psych evaluation and no one is going to question the marks in your body. I don't imagine you are going there to strip naked for them to see.

Speak to your doctor about the test and the drugs you're taking to determine if the shots are necessary and possibly hand you a note to take to the testing physician. If your docto counters the shots, be sure to get it in writing and attach a copy to send by NVC. They will most likely ask if about any drugs you're currently taking. So be honest and only answer what was asked. Good luck!

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Read through this thread that is pinned in the AOS family based forum.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/551080-immunizations-ds-3025-or-i-693/


Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Hello everyone,

I hope someone can calm me down a bit and may have been in a similar position.

I came to the US on a K1 this April and we filed for AOS in October. I had a medical done in my home country in December 2015, so about a year ago.

Yesterday I received a RFE asking for a Vaccination Supplement to Form I-693. That means I should only need the vaccinations part right? I already got a flu shot for this year a couple of weeks ago, so I do have all vaccinations required.

Unfortunately, I couldnt find a single civil surgeon in the Kansas City area who'd do the vaccination transcription only, so I probably will have to do a complete new medical, the cheapest $150 :(

The "concern" I have right now is following: I am taking escitalopram for anxiety and I also have several scars from self-harming when I was a teenager. Could those two things be a possible problem at the new physical or have any impact on receiving my Green Card now? I passed the medical in my home country, but I was super panicky back then that these things would be an issue.

Anyone know if I should get a statement from my family doctor as to why I'm taking the medication and that I am no risk to myself/others?

Thank you so much in advance!

This might be a weird suggestion, but you may have to think about going outside of KC to find one. Some of us have had to drive a few hours to other cities just to find a competent civil surgeon that will do what the RFE requests. The RFE requests the vaccination supplement only, and that's what you need to give them. Have you looked through this thread yet? http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/231026-civil-surgeons-who-dont-rip-you-off/ There might be someone of use there. Do you have your DS3025 copy and a record for your flu shot? The civil surgeon will need to have a look at that, and then you will both complete a few pages (not all) of the I-693. It takes all of ten minutes for a competent CS to do, and even if you have to travel a distance you could consider it a money and stress saving road trip. :)


K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

 

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You were a K1. The link by Ebunolowa should be very useful to you regarding this rfe... :)

Edited by Suss&Camm

K1 Visa & AOS

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2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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Thank you everyone for your responses!! I don't have a copy of the DS3025, it was never given to me, so I don't really know if it was completed or not.

I might have to search for civil surgeons that are a bit of a drive away, I've gone through the list from the link above and called the CVs from the USCIS website as well. Just so frustrating that no one here would do the transcript only :(


K1-Timeline (I'm the beneficiary): :wub:

2015-08-22 : I-129F Filed

2015-09-09 : I-129F USCIS Received

2015-09-11 : I-129F NOA1

2015-09-14 : I-129F NOA1 (e-notification, sent to CSC)

2015-09-23 : I-129F NOA1 (Hardcopy)

2015-10-15 : I-129F NOA2

2015-11-06 : NVC Case #

2015-11-09 : Embassy Received

2015-11-28 : Package 3 Received

2015-12-01 : Medical (Munich)

2015-12-17 : Package 3 Sent

2016-01-07 : Interview (Frankfurt) => approved!

2016-01-13 : Visa Received

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Thank you everyone for your responses!! I don't have a copy of the DS3025, it was never given to me, so I don't really know if it was completed or not.

I might have to search for civil surgeons that are a bit of a drive away, I've gone through the list from the link above and called the CVs from the USCIS website as well. Just so frustrating that no one here would do the transcript only :(

Well that is going to be the looming problem then. Because you don't have the DS3025 copy, unless you have recorded proof that you received the required vaccinations prior-to your medical, or during your medical, or any time after your medical there's no way to prove you have the shots for the CS to recertify. Do you have any evidence of receiving vaccines in your personal records that you could show the CS?


K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

 

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I have that yes, I have this little yellow book where doctors keep track of all vaccines I got since my birth and thankfully he put it in last year at my medical in Munich. I also have those in my records at the family doctor I go to here in KC, including flu shot, so that shouldn't be the problem. I can take a copy of it with me. I just worry that me taking anxiety medication and my scars might be a problem if I have to do a full medical again over here, I know there's a section about mental disorders and that stuff in the I-693.


K1-Timeline (I'm the beneficiary): :wub:

2015-08-22 : I-129F Filed

2015-09-09 : I-129F USCIS Received

2015-09-11 : I-129F NOA1

2015-09-14 : I-129F NOA1 (e-notification, sent to CSC)

2015-09-23 : I-129F NOA1 (Hardcopy)

2015-10-15 : I-129F NOA2

2015-11-06 : NVC Case #

2015-11-09 : Embassy Received

2015-11-28 : Package 3 Received

2015-12-01 : Medical (Munich)

2015-12-17 : Package 3 Sent

2016-01-07 : Interview (Frankfurt) => approved!

2016-01-13 : Visa Received

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Thank you everyone for your responses!! I don't have a copy of the DS3025, it was never given to me, so I don't really know if it was completed or not.

I might have to search for civil surgeons that are a bit of a drive away, I've gone through the list from the link above and called the CVs from the USCIS website as well. Just so frustrating that no one here would do the transcr

I have read the instructions prior to sending my application. It says that you need to complete part 1 (your info), 2 (interpretor's info), 4 (civil surgeon name and address) , and 7 (vaccination record) of the form I-693 (the medical form).

Something that may help you significantly is when I called the office of the civil surgeon in my area, the staff will say we don't do it or we have never done it. I went there to the office towards the end of his office hours without an appointment. I requested to speak with the civil surgeon directly for less than 5 minutes. I spoke with him. He said has never seen anything like that before initially. I showed him the instructions of the application which applies to our situation. He accepted. He did it and only charged us for one vaccination that was missing and gave us the vaccine. Please note that will require some formal paper stating that you have completed your vaccination (or partially completed your vaccination). He will complete whatever is missing and should charge you only for that.

I hope that helps. Don't listen to the staff. Just request to speak to the surgeon. Make sure you still be nice otherwise the staff will completely block you and not give you a chance to speak with the civil surgeon. Take the instruction with you.

I hope that helps.

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Your medical exam is mostly for shots, blood test, urine test (and poop test) if required. It's not a psych evaluation and no one is going to question the marks in your body. I don't imagine you are going there to strip naked for them to see.

Speak to your doctor about the test and the drugs you're taking to determine if the shots are necessary and possibly hand you a note to take to the testing physician. If your docto counters the shots, be sure to get it in writing and attach a copy to send by NVC. They will most likely ask if about any drugs you're currently taking. So be honest and only answer what was asked. Good luck!

This is not true. People have been denied because of self harm scars, please don't just make things up if you don't know what you are talking about, it's potentially very damaging for people who come here for information.

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This is not true. People have been denied because of self harm scars, please don't just make things up if you don't know what you are talking about, it's potentially very damaging for people who come here for information.

Since you know it all, how have you contributed to this question? I answered based on my experience. What exactly is your solution to this question?

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Okay- lets take it easy here- everyone is free to contribute to the thread what they can. Its good to make corrections to incorrect info, but lets all remain polite.
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Not everyone gets a copy of their DS3025. Its suppose to be in your sealed envelope. Sometimes its not, sometimes its filled out wrong, sometimes its just lost. All of which are horrible things to happen since you paid for the medical and reasonably expect it to be done properly and make its way where its gotta be.

But these things happen. With out a copy- you will never know if it was wrong- and you dont have it to resubmit. So you must get a new vac supplement part and if you cant- then the whole medical.

Luke- Try to find someone for just the vac part. People have suggested a few good ideas. 150 for the whole exam doesnt sound that bad cost wise if you have to do it all.

You did pass the medical once, so Im not sure why you are so anxious but you are on an anti-depressant- so you have anxiety! lol :) Taking a med like that or having old self harm scars can cause an issue. But its a super minor issue. I will break it down for you. The Dr will examine you. If he finds something that leads him to believe you are a danger to yourself or others he will have to refer you to a psych eval where its basically a 1/2hr to 45 min therapy session with a psych dr who will evaluate you and get a feel for you. The psych Dr will then report back to the regular Dr with an 'all good' you are no risk, or a 'oh my' you are deeply troubled and actively self harming.

To avoid being sent to a psych dr you can bring a statement from your Dr about your medication as well as any old records you may have (if any) about the previous self harm. The better the case you make to the Dr about 'yourself' the less likely it is they will refer you to psych. It does not appear the first time around you went for a psych eval right? Were you on meds then? Did they ask about your scars then? Try to remember what you previously stated and how you behaved because however it was was apparently suitable enough for them to be satisfied you were not needed to undergo further evaluation. Just be confident in yourself, and if the Dr acts like he has no choice but to send you to psych - then fine, so be it. Perhaps thats their policy. Just another hoop to jump through because a psych dr wont deny you based on old scars and an anti-depressant- you have to actually be at risk to have this be an issue, and you are not.

(one final thing i can suggest is attempting to contact the place that did your original medical to see if they will give you now a copy of the ds3025 you never got. However most who try this are ignored or flat out told no. You may be able to get the copy- but it could be blank or filled out wrong- which just puts you back in the same mess of needing it redone anyway, and you have limited time for the RFE)

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