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I-864 - 100% handwritten, 100% printed or a hybrid of both?

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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So guys, I know this has been asked, but I haven't found an updated and/or conclusive answer.

I started out typing the form, but a few fields were blocked or my answers wouldn't fit the amount of character e.g. my wife's name, our phone number, etc.. so I left it blank, printed it out, and carefully filled the rest with a black felt tip pen.

Then I read NVC uses automated equipment to read through the printed forms, and would that would render the handwritten fields blank.

So I suppose I will have to hand write 100% a brand new form. correct? Or is my hybrid copy perfectly fine?

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Ukraine
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What form are you talking about?


N-400

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12/30/2019  NOA1

01/09/2020  Walk in biometric set up by IO at Ft. Myers to be done at ASC Ft. Myers.  Biometric completed.  Original Biometric was scheduled for  01/23/2020.  Estimated       Case Completion time 10 months (November 2020).

 

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Hybrid is fine...that's what mine was. No issues whatsoever.


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Jun 2009 - Met on Facebook
Mar 2010 - Visited Morocco for the first time, got engaged
Dec 30, 2011 - Wedding in Morocco (5th visit)
I-130/CR-1 (first time around)
31 Aug 2012 - Priority Date (Vermont, transferred to NBC)
31 Dec 2012 - NOA2
27Jul 2013 - Broke up/Separation (while waiting for case complete at NVC)
9 Jan 2014 - Filed for divorce in US (never completed)
4 Apr 2014 - USCIS NOIR
May 2015 - Reconciliation
Nov 2015 - Vacation together in Spain (7th in-person visit with each other)
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10 Aug 2016 - Medical Exam

25 Aug 2016 - Interview - APPROVED

1 Sep 2016 - Husband picked up his visa

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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I agree with B&Z, I've done hybrid with no issues. But just as a reminder the I-864 form has the UCIS' new barcode technology. If you fill out the form using Adobe Reader, the barcode at the bottom keeps changing. This allows UCIS to simply scan the form and "read" its contents. They warn you to either hand-write all or type all, but I don't think this is a huge deal breaker.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Ukraine
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I'm using I-864EZ...less pages and no bar code on that. Did notice though that the form doesn't allow you enough space to type country code + phone number.

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N-400

12/30/2019  Filed N-400 online

12/30/2019  NOA1

01/09/2020  Walk in biometric set up by IO at Ft. Myers to be done at ASC Ft. Myers.  Biometric completed.  Original Biometric was scheduled for  01/23/2020.  Estimated       Case Completion time 10 months (November 2020).

 

 

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We had to do hybrid because my husband's employer has a wonderfully long and alliterative name. If his chicken scratch can make it past the NVC systems then I think anything can.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Here's what I can speculate as what might be the mystery:

1) If you fill it out straight onto your navigator (https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864.pdf) it will not generate the bar code into the file, therefore it could be 100% typed, 100% handwritten or a hybrid and the person who will analyze will not be able to read it automatically, thus, he will have to manually input the data.

2) If you download the pdf file and open it with Adobe, it will generate a huge barcode. this might trigger the NVC person to simply read the barcode and assume it is 100% typed and miss out on handwritten fields.

My conclusion so far:

If you are able to type 100% of the fields go the Adobe route with the bar code.

If you aren't able to type 100% of the fields (which is my case), then use the online form without the barcode, and, either create a hybrid, or a 100% handwritten form.

Does this make any sense to anyone?

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Russia
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Here's what I can speculate as what might be the mystery:

1) If you fill it out straight onto your navigator (https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864.pdf) it will not generate the bar code into the file, therefore it could be 100% typed, 100% handwritten or a hybrid and the person who will analyze will not be able to read it automatically, thus, he will have to manually input the data.

2) If you download the pdf file and open it with Adobe, it will generate a huge barcode. this might trigger the NVC person to simply read the barcode and assume it is 100% typed and miss out on handwritten fields.

My conclusion so far:

If you are able to type 100% of the fields go the Adobe route with the bar code.

If you aren't able to type 100% of the fields (which is my case), then use the online form without the barcode, and, either create a hybrid, or a 100% handwritten form.

Does this make any sense to anyone?

Thanks for noticing this! It makes sense. I wonder if this might've caused delays for anyone before. Good to know! :thumbs:


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Hi,

The hybrid is totally fine. My husband filled the info and some of the names could not all fit properly. I think I read somewhere that mentioned filling in "neatly" the info that is unable to fit due to insufficient character spacing with a felt-tip pen and ensure that the wording is legible.

You are good to go with this :thumbs:


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GOT MARRIED: 3-APR-2015 :wub:

HUSBAND FILED I-130: 29-MAY-2015

VISAS APPROVED: 15-JUN-2016

VISAS IN HAND; GREEN CARD FEES PAID: 21-JUN-2016

PORT OF ENTRY - FT. LAUDERDALE INTL AIRPORT: 06-AUG-2016
CONDITIONAL GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
I-751 FILER   
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FILED REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS: 25-JUN-2018
FILE SENT TO NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER 11-MAY-2019
10-YR GREEN CARDS APPROVED 17-JUN-2019 
10-YR GREEN CARDS RECEIVED 21-JUN-2019 :dance: 
 
N-400 FILER
FILED CITIZENSHIP ONLINE; RECEIVED NOA1: 8-DEC-2019
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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Hi,

The hybrid is totally fine. My husband filled the info and some of the names could not all fit properly. I think I read somewhere that mentioned filling in "neatly" the info that is unable to fit due to insufficient character spacing with a felt-tip pen and ensure that the wording is legible.

You are good to go with this :thumbs:

thank you! :D

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I agree with B&Z, I've done hybrid with no issues. But just as a reminder the I-864 form has the UCIS' new barcode technology. If you fill out the form using Adobe Reader, the barcode at the bottom keeps changing. This allows UCIS to simply scan the form and "read" its contents. They warn you to either hand-write all or type all, but I don't think this is a huge deal breaker.

I forgot about this and filled up everything for AOS (all at once) with Foxit reader which instead of making barcode "words" everything to the bottom. I'll have to fill up all forms again with Adobe reader


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