Here's Just A Small Sample Of What's Wrong With American Politics

[smilesammich 10,727]

I don't care for Hillary as a person. I find her power hungry (like Trump) and I don't believe she cares except to be the one who finally puts a woman in the white house. And something obama never did, which many credit as extremely smart, was mention his own race in some victimized "Shouldn't you vote for me, let's prove we're not racist" way. Hillary feels if she loses it's because of sexism. She doesn't believe in the meritocracy of the presidency; she wants her private parts to give her some extra credence at the polls. I'm not a woman but I do believe most women who don't support clinton will find her spokespeople very offensive when they say there is a spot in hell for women who don't support hillary. You can't threaten people for your support. It's desperate and a huge turn off. It's a terrible tactical error.

if obama had done such a thing, he never would have gotten elected. there's a double standard for racial minorities and there is also a double standard for women - that's for certain, but the trick is acting like the double standard doesn't exist/hasn't affected you. it's about keeping the elephant in the room a non-issue. she's already carrying the damn elephant around on a campaign sign and threatening voters with it. i find it extremely offensive when i see comments from older women (who don't loathe hillary at all) making comments about hillary being the only reasonable choice for progressive women, or that anyone who supports bernie is delusional. hell, anyone that vigorously supports any candidate is delusional if they think their vote means anything when it's all said and done. NH super delegates proved that quite nicely.

[TBoneTX 43,059]

[...] the fact that some people did support him simply because he's black must be considered [...]

On election night in 2008, a local TV reporterette was on the campus of a historically black university, trying to interview revelers.

Reporterette to one girl: "Why did you vote for Obama?"

Girl (giddily): "Because he black!"

Reporterette: "Was there any additional reason?"

Girl (more giddily): "Because he black!"

The reporterette looked a bit frustrated or crestfallen and turned things back over to the anchor desk.

[smilesammich 10,727]

On election night in 2008, a local TV reporterette was on the campus of a historically black university, trying to interview revelers.

Reporterette to one girl: "Why did you vote for Obama?"

Girl (giddily): "Because he black!"

Reporterette: "Was there any additional reason?"

Girl (more giddily): "Because he black!"

The reporterette looked a bit frustrated or crestfallen and turned things back over to the anchor desk.

sigh x2, considering how many white christian males -knowing or unknowingly- will only support other white christian males..pick up on my bit about the double standard. hold it in the same frame of reference with your 'reporterette' and 'girl' statements.

i mean, assuming she wasn't actually a girl and you're retelling a story of a child who couldn't actually vote anyway.

[Expat1 971]

i think democrats/liberals forget just how much the democratic party are a part of 'the establishment' as republicans. considering hillary is a woman, imo she has had to make even more concessions to establishment/money over the course of her career than a male candidate would have. no matter how progressive she might have been started out, she definitely isn't anywhere close to fitting in as progressive. the fact that she doesn't seem to catch this, makes it even more obvious.

i don't get that either. republicans (especially the older ones) HATE her. bernie appeals to folks across the board because he has actual plans that he's spelled out - trump? he's got nothing. seems like hillary is just running damage control.

She's probably just sleeping with them. That's how all women get ahead right?

[TBoneTX 43,059]

Actor, actress; tiger, tigress; murderer, murderess; reporter, reportress. Grammatical error noted, with apologies.

Young female college student = coed.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Young female college student = coed.

see i never would have seen that one coming considering you made a point to type "because he black" twice, firmly casting our young female college student in a very young, uneducated light.

[Umka36 781]

On election night in 2008, a local TV reporterette was on the campus of a historically black university, trying to interview revelers.

Reporterette to one girl: "Why did you vote for Obama?"

Girl (giddily): "Because he black!"

Reporterette: "Was there any additional reason?"

Girl (more giddily): "Because he black!"

The reporterette looked a bit frustrated or crestfallen and turned things back over to the anchor desk.

It seems some people like to disregard his half white.

[smilesammich 10,727]

She's probably just sleeping with them. That's how all women get ahead right?

is she ahead? her crotch must not be working right. sure.

[TBoneTX 43,059]

you made a point to type "because he black" twice, firmly casting our young female college student in a very young, uneducated light.

Because it was a direct, verbatim quote twice, twice casting the young female college student in a very young, uneducated light in your direct, verbatim, judgmental words.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Because it was a direct, verbatim quote twice, twice casting the young female college student in a very young, uneducated light in your direct, verbatim, judgmental words.

my bad, if you'd provided a link to the verbatim quote i would have approached it as such, instead i viewed it as a simple story more akin to the creative writing sort as opposed to the factual writing sort.

but i get it, all direct verbatim quotes you're referencing can easily be found by going to youtube and searching 'free stuff obama' - a plethora of veiled racism awaits!

[TBoneTX 43,059]

Go back and find the 2008 election-night news archives for whatever local station it was, and you'll then have your source.

And belay implying racism when none exists here. Sometimes, words mean exactly and only what they overtly say, with no agenda behind them, and this is one of those times.

Perhaps a helpful link: http://www.visajourney.com/content/terms

[smilesammich 10,727]

Go back and find the 2008 election-night news archives for whatever local station it was, and you'll then have your source.

And belay implying racism when none exists here. Sometimes, words mean exactly and only what they overtly say, with no agenda behind them, and this is one of those times.

Perhaps a helpful link: http://www.visajourney.com/content/terms

maybe you should go back and read what i said. go to you tube and search 'free stuff obama' and you'll see racism. why so defensive?

[TBoneTX 43,059]

but i get it, all direct verbatim quotes you're referencing can easily be found by going to youtube and searching 'free stuff obama' - a plethora of veiled racism awaits!

As though I had suggested this. Not interested in plethoras or paucities of veiled or overt racism on youtube or anywhere else.

If you wish to refute the point that some people voted for Obama because of his race -- thus somewhat re-railing this thread -- then please do so.

Edited February 11, 2016 by TBoneTX

[cdneh 3,112]

I don't understand women supporting Hillary at all. Here we have a woman who's husband could not keep his hands off other women. Like an idiot, she backs him, doesn't kick his ####### to the curb, blames the other women in spite of his bare faced lying about his behavior. Then she sets off on a course to do everything she could to discredit any of Bill's girls, and publicly and professional ruin them. Nothing to do at all with him being a creep.

And she's meant to be FOR women? More than any other candidate Dem or Republican because she is a woman herself?

I would like to think, although I expect to be very disappointed, that the people of this country would not elect as president a person who had a long history of lying, concealment, and flagrant disregard for the law. And who is married to Bill. Because he is a slime ball.

[smilesammich 10,727]

As though I had suggested this. Not interested in plethoras or paucities of veiled or overt racism on youtube or anywhere else.

If you wish to refute the point that some people voted for Obama because of his race -- thus somewhat re-railing this thread -- then please do so.

hey,you're the one going on about verbatim and not leaving a link. doesn't really matter what you're interested in, i made the association because you left out specifics.

re-railing the thread? dear - it wasn't derailed until you decided to tell me to only post what you're interested in , racism is right in line with voting in line with your own race which i do believe is 'just a small sample of what's wrong with american politics"

you could just delete my posts since they're uninteresting and unbecoming to you, idgaf. i still see what i see in your post. i still make the association. not much you can do about it.

Edited February 11, 2016 by elitesthuglib