Where to send for Renunciation of citizenship ? CKGS or Travisa

[christera22 8]

Hello,

I would be obtaining my US passport verysoon. So I wanted to get some info on Renunciation & Visa

a) Where is best to apply for Renunciation of Indian Citizenship ? CKGS or Travisa ?

b) I learnt that tourist visa is cheaper and faster than PIO/OCI ... Is that true ?

Thanks a lot for all the help

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

When you signed for your citizenship did you not renounce your other citizenships?

[christera22 8]

After I get my US passport I have to renounce my Indian citizenship ...if thats what u meant

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

No, my point was when you got your citizenship you had to break all ties/allegiances/citizenships with other countries when you accepted the US one.

You cant get a US Passport if you didn't become a citizen of the united states, and to do that you had to renounce other citizenships already. So I don't understand what you are trying to renounce at this point.

But maybe im just confused

[christera22 8]

well I already passed my citizenship interview and headed to my oath ceremony , if you read my timeline. Once you get your citizenship certificate, you can apply for US passport. Once you get that , you renounce your indian citizenship with the original indian passport and copy of your US passport. Thats how it goes at least for indian passport. Hope this helps

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

I see thanks for clarifying!

[newacct 688]

No, my point was when you got your citizenship you had to break all ties/allegiances/citizenships with other countries when you accepted the US one.

You cant get a US Passport if you didn't become a citizen of the united states, and to do that you had to renounce other citizenships already. So I don't understand what you are trying to renounce at this point.

But maybe im just confused

NO. You're just confused. The US NEVER asks or expects a person naturalizing to take any action with respect to any of their existing nationalities. Period. From the perspective of the US, other nationalities do not exist and it does not care about them.

Whether a person has another country's nationality is determined by that country's law.

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

NO. You're just confused. The US NEVER asks or expects a person naturalizing to take any action with respect to any of their existing nationalities. Period. From the perspective of the US, other nationalities do not exist and it does not care about them.

Whether a person has another country's nationality is determined by that country's law.

Hmmmm. That's funny since in the oath you renounce your ties to foreign lands: https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/naturalization-test/naturalization-oath-allegiance-united-states-america

"2. Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;"

You are allowed to have dual citizenship for certain countries that the US recognizes, but you have to reapply to become a dual citizen with that country after accepting US Citizenship technically.

[Darnell 8,478]

Hello,

I would be obtaining my US passport verysoon. So I wanted to get some info on Renunciation & Visa

a) Where is best to apply for Renunciation of Indian Citizenship ? CKGS or Travisa ?

b) I learnt that tourist visa is cheaper and faster than PIO/OCI ... Is that true ?

Thanks a lot for all the help

I'm hoping another Indian member can see your post and give you a detailed answer, and soon.

You've just gotten a lot of side-chatter, folk not understanding what you're wanting to do..

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

I'm hoping another Indian member can see your post and give you a detailed answer, and soon.

You've just gotten a lot of side-chatter, folk not understanding what you're wanting to do..

Apologies, you are right this isn't contributing much to OP original questions.

[newacct 688]

Hmmmm. That's funny since in the oath you renounce your ties to foreign lands: https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/naturalization-test/naturalization-oath-allegiance-united-states-america

"2. Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;"

You are allowed to have dual citizenship for certain countries that the US recognizes, but you have to reapply to become a dual citizen with that country after accepting US Citizenship technically.

Nope. Notice that nothing in that says "citizenship" or "nationality".

Whether you have a country's nationality is determined by that country's law. What you say or do in the US has no effect on another country's nationality except as provided by that country's law. The US (or any other country) has nothing to do with it (and cannot have anything to do with it). You don't "lose" anything, and don't need to "reapply" for anything, unless that country says so. It's that simple. This is well known. There is nothing "technical" about it.

[Foreign Fantasy 52]

Nope. Notice that nothing in that says "citizenship" or "nationality".

Whether you have a country's nationality is determined by that country's law. What you say or do in the US has no effect on another country's nationality except as provided by that country's law. The US (or any other country) has nothing to do with it (and cannot have anything to do with it). You don't "lose" anything, and don't need to "reapply" for anything, unless that country says so. It's that simple. This is well known. There is nothing "technical" about it.

Alright alright, can we figure out how to answer the questions that the OP asked now?

[Darnell 8,478]

Sure !

Step 1 - Find Indian Aunty !

Step 2 - Buy Indian Aunty nice chai with milk

Step 3 - Ask Indian Aunty about her recent USA citizenship process and the stuff she did to get or maintain PR/I.

But Step 1 is crucial !

[neoblast 138]

Here are the facts:
* The Indian constitution does not allow or recognize “dual citizenship”.
* The Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) scheme does not get you “dual citizenship”.
* The Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) scheme does not give you “Indian passport”.


Automatic loss of Indian citizenship covered in Section 9(1) of theCitizenship act 1955, provides that any citizen of India who by naturalisation or registration acquires the citizenship of another country shall cease to be a citizen of India.” This means you have to give up Indian passport and citizenship to the nearest Indian embassy, should you become citizen of foreign country. A seal is affixed at the back of passport mentioning it is a punishable offence under Indian Passports Act of 1957, of any possession of indian passport, should the passport holder acquires nationality of another country..

-The Overseas Citizens of India (OCI) scheme was introduced by Indian Govt in 2005, to encourage Indians who have gained citizenships abroad in terms of easing travel restrictions and aid the economic development of India. This scheme is just like“Permanent Residence” or "Green Card "given in India.

If you are already a Person of Indian origin (POI) and have taken up citizenship abroad, you can take up benefits of OCI scheme, which gives you same travel and residence privileges like other Indians, but you are not allowed to vote and take up jobs in Government sector. You will also be free from reporting requirements to police regarding the length of your stay. . With that being said, you are eligible to apply for Indian citizenship if you have acquired OCI for 5 years and you have legally resided in India atleast for a year.

[Cathi 5,624]

No, my point was when you got your citizenship you had to break all ties/allegiances/citizenships with other countries when you accepted the US one.

You cant get a US Passport if you didn't become a citizen of the united states, and to do that you had to renounce other citizenships already. So I don't understand what you are trying to renounce at this point.

But maybe im just confused

this is 100% WRONG. The US does NOT ask you to give up other citizenships to become a citizen here. Have you never heard of dual citizenship? If you do not know the answer to a question do not guess, refrain from answering at all because it causes confusion.