How bad info in chat logs can be!

[rtor1 52]

Hi guys, I have a trick question:

I was wondering how bad one info in the chat logs we sent along with our I-129F can be (I know it was stupid sending but well, it's done now and blame on us for not reading very carefully everything. I know it was so stupid so please no moral judgements). I has nothing to do with proving our relationship because all the evidences show clearly we have a real and strong relationship (I personally travelled to the States to be with him more than 10 times and he came to my country 4 times, we have photos with each other family and even in different countries during our vacation and I am a dependent on his internation credit card and etc).

- 1 specific chat long we were joking that he should travel with his Navy Uniform to get updated to Business Class in the flight and he joked saying he should make fake paperwork to do so and I said he could say he was gonna visit the embassy here. HOWEVER, later on after the jokes I said NO, YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT and he SAID: YEAH, IT SHOULD BE WITH ME TRANSFERRING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TROUBLE I COULD GET IN SO I WILL JUST CHILL AT THE MILITARY LOBBY.

I know it can sound weird to whoever reads that (Especially a Consular Officer), however we were just fooling around and right after we said IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE and HE WAS NOT GOING TO DO IT and we changed the subject right after and started to talk about our vacation plans and never mentioned that again (And in fact he never did something stupid like that and we can prove he always travelled on economic class). And we have good backgrounds (He's been in the US Navy for more than 13 years and ironacally I am a Fraud Specialist in a big worldwide multinational and I have never overstayed in the US). It was sent along with aprox. 150 pages of e-mails, skype and facebook screenshots and Gtalks (It was actually on Gtalk)

I don't know what to do and I am personally worried about it and I am keeping in mind I will be denied because of that and I was wondering what I could do if I get a denial because of a stupid joke and I have the feeling this denial could happen at the interview stage if I pass the USCIS check. Should I wait and see what happens or act before (If possible). I am so desperate that I was even considering go asap to the States on my Tourist Visa!

Thanks for advices.

[Na&John 3]

Idk how bad it can be, but I know that k1 visa is very stressful and sometimes we overreact about such small things (it happens a lot with me). So, try to relax, you know you have a strong and real relationship and that you guys were just joking (and its normal to make "weird" jokes!).

Also, do you realy think they will read the 150 pages you sent? If you sent other proofs like tickets, passaport stamps and photos, I dont believe they will stop and read your conversations.

Edited November 17, 2014 by Na&John

[m.o. 2]

stop worrying. next time just be more careful on what you are sending them because whatever you send them goes to your file. now, i don't think they will deny you just because of that. chances are they may not even read it knowing you said you sent almost 150 pgs of emails, skype etc. When i sent my |-129F petition for my fiance who is now my husband, i only sent them few emails (the very first email we sent each other and the last ones). Do not overwhelm them by sending too many papers that they don't need. Pictures of you two and with your families, plane tickets, passport stamps will prove more that you've been together.

[rtor1 52]

Idk how bad it can be, but I know that k1 visa is very stressful and sometimes we overreact about such small things (it happens a lot with me). So, try to relax, you know you have a strong and real relationship and that you guys were just joking (and its normal to make "weird" jokes!).

Also, do you realy think they will read the 150 pages you sent? If you sent other proofs like tickets, passaport stamps and photos, I dont believe they will stop and read your conversations.

Yes, very stressful and fearing to be denied is so bad. We have been together for 4 years and we're even paying almost 50.000USD for our wedding party (OK, I know we shouldn´t set a date but I applied in June and set the date to september and made clauses saying we could change the date). And yeah, I have sent 18 tickets (10 for me, 4 for him, and 4 from both of us travelling to Buenos Aires and to Santa Catarina) - I do go to the States a lot, passport stamps, pictures with family and different places (Brazil, US and Argentina)

I am considering to go on the B2 Visa to get a Legal Advice there since my fiancé's ship will be soon gone, but I guess I will wait and see since I believe I am close to have my case touched (June filler at TSC).

Thanks.

Edited November 17, 2014 by renatatorquato

[rtor1 52]

stop worrying. next time just be more careful on what you are sending them because whatever you send them goes to your file. now, i don't think they will deny you just because of that. chances are they may not even read it knowing you said you sent almost 150 pgs of emails, skype etc. When i sent my |-129F petition for my fiance who is now my husband, i only sent them few emails (the very first email we sent each other and the last ones). Do not overwhelm them by sending too many papers that they don't need. Pictures of you two and with your families, plane tickets, passport stamps will prove more that you've been together.

Thanks, I just thought the Consular Officer would read every single piece of paper you submitted on your Petition since they should be prepared for the interview. I kinda pictured it was part of their ''homework'' reading your petition before interviewing you. I will wait and see. My file had 508 pages (His divorce decree was pretty big).

[samlog 25]

I don't think you should worry about that. To be honest I doubt they read every single page of chat logs. Is too much too handle lol. The probably look for something more obvious.

[JSum 8]

Pls dont worry too much, I printed out around 200 pages of our chat log and bring to interview, no one read it, the interviewer said i hv too much evidence, he was convinced and not even read a single line .. so, pls dont worry .. you will be fine ...

[raven52 233]

Just hope they "skim over that part of your posts".,.,.,.as what you said in jest, ""was NOT good" and their is a small chance an issue could be made of it.,.,.,this process, if it is text you are going to submit, is ""not for jokes and kidding"".,..,.,.,

I hope all will be fine, but be prepared to explain it..,.,but maybe only a 5% or less chance.,.,but you just never know.

Good luck, and thank, your man for his service to our country!

[Boiler 43,434]

Quality not quantity.

Can you imagine anybody wanting to read every page?

[annem 15]

I definitely wouldn't print whole chat conversations because that's none of their business...

I was prepared just in case of a RFE to send them some extracts, but that wasn't necessary. It seems our Google hangouts call logs for over a year were enough to them

I like my privacy!

[Rudy & Keren 7]

Well I think many of the comments to the orginal post already say don't worry about it and I agree.

My agreement is because sometime in the last 9-10 months I read a long post written by a former USCIS worker.

He did a nice write up that explained what happened in his office when 129F petitions come in and how the whole in office process works on their end.

He explained that yes the employies that process the 129F at the USCIS don't have time to read or look at every page of evidence that is submitted and so they look only enough to satisfy themseves that the petition is for a couple with a genuine ongoing romantic relationship.

So if there is 100 pages of e mails printed, no there is not enough time for them to read any real length into e mails. It is more likely the person reviewing the case might flip a few pages into the e mails and look to see that there is some kind of romantic conversation taking place and then flip a little bit further into later e mails.

Unless there is some real reason he wanted to know more about your relationship he won't be reading much in the e mial.

If you are one of the rare cases where your culture doesn't have the fiancee meeting in person before the wedding

OR

If one person is 23 and the other is 63 years old!

OR

if the US citizen has submitted prior I 129F petitions numerous times in the past.

So it isn't that the govt officers will never take the time to read a number of e mail exchanges, but probibly more the situations where another aspect of the evidence was a little weak or something has made them wonder a litle bit.

But unless their is a reason, they only have so many minutes to look over and process your case and go to the next.

So yes relax : )

Rudy

US citizen

[rtor1 52]

Well I think many of the comments to the orginal post already say don't worry about it and I agree.

My agreement is because sometime in the last 9-10 months I read a long post written by a former USCIS worker.

He did a nice write up that explained what happened in his office when 129F petitions come in and how the whole in office process works on their end.

He explained that yes the employies that process the 129F at the USCIS don't have time to read or look at every page of evidence that is submitted and so they look only enough to satisfy themseves that the petition is for a couple with a genuine ongoing romantic relationship.

So if there is 100 pages of e mails printed, no there is not enough time for them to read any real length into e mails. It is more likely the person reviewing the case might flip a few pages into the e mails and look to see that there is some kind of romantic conversation taking place and then flip a little bit further into later e mails.

Unless there is some real reason he wanted to know more about your relationship he won't be reading much in the e mial.

If you are one of the rare cases where your culture doesn't have the fiancee meeting in person before the wedding

OR

If one person is 23 and the other is 63 years old!

OR

if the US citizen has submitted prior I 129F petitions numerous times in the past.

So it isn't that the govt officers will never take the time to read a number of e mail exchanges, but probibly more the situations where another aspect of the evidence was a little weak or something has made them wonder a litle bit.

But unless their is a reason, they only have so many minutes to look over and process your case and go to the next.

So yes relax : )

Rudy

US citizen

Thanks for the explanation! I will try and relax but my main concern was when it comes to the Embassy! I thought that the CO should read some of evidences in your petition to prepare for the interview but looks like they just touch the papers you take with you to the interview according to so many other posts (The proofs of ongoing relationship after the petition)!

[Ketsuban 1,034]

I did something a little similar - back in 2005 my husband (then friend) was trying to figure out something I was hiding from him about myself (that I liked him!) and he guessed "you're bipolar?" and I was like "whut?". I was worried afterwards that the medical board would want a letter from my GP stating I've never had bipolar but luckily it never came up

[Pheebs1201 269]

I did something a little similar - back in 2005 my husband (then friend) was trying to figure out something I was hiding from him about myself (that I liked him!) and he guessed "you're bipolar?" and I was like "whut?". I was worried afterwards that the medical board would want a letter from my GP stating I've never had bipolar but luckily it never came up

Now that is a cute story

[LiliBurd 85]

Imagine how boring it would be to read pages and pages of chat logs zzzzzzzz!

I'm sure you have nothing to worry about, everyone says silly things. If there are no other red flags, i'd be surprised if any issues arise.

Just relax