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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Hi guys, I have a trick question:

I was wondering how bad one info in the chat logs we sent along with our I-129F can be (I know it was stupid sending but well, it's done now and blame on us for not reading very carefully everything. I know it was so stupid so please no moral judgements). I has nothing to do with proving our relationship because all the evidences show clearly we have a real and strong relationship (I personally travelled to the States to be with him more than 10 times and he came to my country 4 times, we have photos with each other family and even in different countries during our vacation and I am a dependent on his internation credit card and etc).

- 1 specific chat long we were joking that he should travel with his Navy Uniform to get updated to Business Class in the flight and he joked saying he should make fake paperwork to do so and I said he could say he was gonna visit the embassy here. HOWEVER, later on after the jokes I said NO, YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT and he SAID: YEAH, IT SHOULD BE WITH ME TRANSFERRING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TROUBLE I COULD GET IN SO I WILL JUST CHILL AT THE MILITARY LOBBY.

I know it can sound weird to whoever reads that (Especially a Consular Officer), however we were just fooling around and right after we said IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE and HE WAS NOT GOING TO DO IT and we changed the subject right after and started to talk about our vacation plans and never mentioned that again (And in fact he never did something stupid like that and we can prove he always travelled on economic class). And we have good backgrounds (He's been in the US Navy for more than 13 years and ironacally I am a Fraud Specialist in a big worldwide multinational and I have never overstayed in the US). It was sent along with aprox. 150 pages of e-mails, skype and facebook screenshots and Gtalks (It was actually on Gtalk)

I don't know what to do and I am personally worried about it and I am keeping in mind I will be denied because of that and I was wondering what I could do if I get a denial because of a stupid joke and I have the feeling this denial could happen at the interview stage if I pass the USCIS check. Should I wait and see what happens or act before (If possible). I am so desperate that I was even considering go asap to the States on my Tourist Visa! :(

Thanks for advices.

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Idk how bad it can be, but I know that k1 visa is very stressful and sometimes we overreact about such small things (it happens a lot with me). So, try to relax, you know you have a strong and real relationship and that you guys were just joking (and its normal to make "weird" jokes!).

Also, do you realy think they will read the 150 pages you sent? If you sent other proofs like tickets, passaport stamps and photos, I dont believe they will stop and read your conversations.

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stop worrying. next time just be more careful on what you are sending them because whatever you send them goes to your file. now, i don't think they will deny you just because of that. chances are they may not even read it knowing you said you sent almost 150 pgs of emails, skype etc. When i sent my |-129F petition for my fiance who is now my husband, i only sent them few emails (the very first email we sent each other and the last ones). Do not overwhelm them by sending too many papers that they don't need. Pictures of you two and with your families, plane tickets, passport stamps will prove more that you've been together.


Our K1 Visa Journey
03/23/2005 From bestfriends to lovers
04/19/2005 Girl moved to US
11/14/2011 Girl became US citizen
12/19/2011 I129F petition filed
12/21/2011 NOA1 received
04/16/2012 NOA2 text notification received
05/18/2012 USEM sent letter to fiance re: eligibility to schedule interview
07/17/2012 medical
08/15/2012 interview (approved!) =')
11/16/2012 fiance arrived in US
01/10/2013 received social security card
01/15/2013 we got MARRIED!

AOS
2/9/2013 mailed AOS, EAD, AP
2/12/2013 USCIS received files
2/22/2013 received 3 I-797C Notice of Action for AOS, EAD, AP
3/20/2013 biometrics/fingerprinting
4/16/2013 EAD/AP aprroved, card received
8/02/2013 Interview
8/28/2013 received a letter in the mail saying AOS is APPROVED! green card to follow :')
8/30/2013 2 yr Green card received! thank you Lord

REMOVAL of CONDITIONS
5/22/2015 mailed I-751 app
5/29/2015 check cashed
6/01/2015 I-797, Notice of Action received
8/11/2015 email received saying biometrics appt letter mailed on 8/8/15; awaiting for mail
8/24/2015 biometrics screening done
10/19/2015 letter received saying application is approved and green card is on the way! yay!

10/21/2015 10 yr green card received

 

APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

12/31/2017 mailed N-400 app

1/10/2017 check cashed

1/17/2017 NOA received

1/22/2017 received mail for biometrics

1/31/2017 biometric screening

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Idk how bad it can be, but I know that k1 visa is very stressful and sometimes we overreact about such small things (it happens a lot with me). So, try to relax, you know you have a strong and real relationship and that you guys were just joking (and its normal to make "weird" jokes!).

Also, do you realy think they will read the 150 pages you sent? If you sent other proofs like tickets, passaport stamps and photos, I dont believe they will stop and read your conversations.

Yes, very stressful and fearing to be denied is so bad. We have been together for 4 years and we're even paying almost 50.000USD for our wedding party (OK, I know we shouldn´t set a date but I applied in June and set the date to september and made clauses saying we could change the date). And yeah, I have sent 18 tickets (10 for me, 4 for him, and 4 from both of us travelling to Buenos Aires and to Santa Catarina) - I do go to the States a lot, passport stamps, pictures with family and different places (Brazil, US and Argentina)

I am considering to go on the B2 Visa to get a Legal Advice there since my fiancé's ship will be soon gone, but I guess I will wait and see since I believe I am close to have my case touched (June filler at TSC).

Thanks.

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stop worrying. next time just be more careful on what you are sending them because whatever you send them goes to your file. now, i don't think they will deny you just because of that. chances are they may not even read it knowing you said you sent almost 150 pgs of emails, skype etc. When i sent my |-129F petition for my fiance who is now my husband, i only sent them few emails (the very first email we sent each other and the last ones). Do not overwhelm them by sending too many papers that they don't need. Pictures of you two and with your families, plane tickets, passport stamps will prove more that you've been together.

Thanks, I just thought the Consular Officer would read every single piece of paper you submitted on your Petition since they should be prepared for the interview. I kinda pictured it was part of their ''homework'' reading your petition before interviewing you. I will wait and see. My file had 508 pages (His divorce decree was pretty big).

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I don't think you should worry about that. To be honest I doubt they read every single page of chat logs. Is too much too handle lol. The probably look for something more obvious.


K1

June 27, 2014: I-129F packet sent

July 03, 2014: NOA1

January 09, 2015: NOA2 (190 days)

January 14: Sent to NVC

January 16: NOA2 hard copy

April, 6: Medical

April, 7: Interview/Approved

April 29: Visa received (FINALLY)

May 25: POE - Fort Lauderdale, FL

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AOS

August 05, 2015: AOS sent

August 12: NOA1 (e-mail)

September 04: Biometrics

October 20: EAD/AP Approved (no text&email)

October 22: EAD/AP mailed

October 26: EAD/AP delivered

November 27: GC Approved/produced
December 02: GC mailed

December 05: GC Delivered

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Pls dont worry too much, I printed out around 200 pages of our chat log and bring to interview, no one read it, the interviewer said i hv too much evidence, he was convinced and not even read a single line .. so, pls dont worry .. you will be fine ...


ROC Timeline

Oct. 25, 2017:  Sent ROC package via USPS

Oct. 27, 2017:  Package well delivered

Nov. 01, 2017:  Cheque cleared

Nov. 02, 2017:  Received the NOA by mail.  The date printed on NOA is 10/27/2017.

 

 

AOS,EAD & AP for K1

June 08, 2015: Sent AOS package via FedEx
June 09, 2015: Received
June 11, 2015: NOA1 email/sms
June 18, 2015: NOA1 hard copies received
July 01, 2015: Biometrics appointment

Aug. 28, 2015: EAD & AP Received

Jan. 16, 2016: Green Card being produced

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Just hope they "skim over that part of your posts".,.,.,.as what you said in jest, ""was NOT good" and their is a small chance an issue could be made of it.,.,.,this process, if it is text you are going to submit, is ""not for jokes and kidding"".,..,.,.,

I hope all will be fine, but be prepared to explain it..,.,but maybe only a 5% or less chance.,.,but you just never know.

Good luck, and thank, your man for his service to our country!

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Quality not quantity.

Can you imagine anybody wanting to read every page?


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I definitely wouldn't print whole chat conversations because that's none of their business...

I was prepared just in case of a RFE to send them some extracts, but that wasn't necessary. It seems our Google hangouts call logs for over a year were enough to them :)

I like my privacy!

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Well I think many of the comments to the orginal post already say don't worry about it and I agree.

My agreement is because sometime in the last 9-10 months I read a long post written by a former USCIS worker.

He did a nice write up that explained what happened in his office when 129F petitions come in and how the whole in office process works on their end.

He explained that yes the employies that process the 129F at the USCIS don't have time to read or look at every page of evidence that is submitted and so they look only enough to satisfy themseves that the petition is for a couple with a genuine ongoing romantic relationship.

So if there is 100 pages of e mails printed, no there is not enough time for them to read any real length into e mails. It is more likely the person reviewing the case might flip a few pages into the e mails and look to see that there is some kind of romantic conversation taking place and then flip a little bit further into later e mails.

Unless there is some real reason he wanted to know more about your relationship he won't be reading much in the e mial.

If you are one of the rare cases where your culture doesn't have the fiancee meeting in person before the wedding

OR

If one person is 23 and the other is 63 years old!

OR

if the US citizen has submitted prior I 129F petitions numerous times in the past.

So it isn't that the govt officers will never take the time to read a number of e mail exchanges, but probibly more the situations where another aspect of the evidence was a little weak or something has made them wonder a litle bit.

But unless their is a reason, they only have so many minutes to look over and process your case and go to the next.

So yes relax : )

Rudy

US citizen

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Well I think many of the comments to the orginal post already say don't worry about it and I agree.

My agreement is because sometime in the last 9-10 months I read a long post written by a former USCIS worker.

He did a nice write up that explained what happened in his office when 129F petitions come in and how the whole in office process works on their end.

He explained that yes the employies that process the 129F at the USCIS don't have time to read or look at every page of evidence that is submitted and so they look only enough to satisfy themseves that the petition is for a couple with a genuine ongoing romantic relationship.

So if there is 100 pages of e mails printed, no there is not enough time for them to read any real length into e mails. It is more likely the person reviewing the case might flip a few pages into the e mails and look to see that there is some kind of romantic conversation taking place and then flip a little bit further into later e mails.

Unless there is some real reason he wanted to know more about your relationship he won't be reading much in the e mial.

If you are one of the rare cases where your culture doesn't have the fiancee meeting in person before the wedding

OR

If one person is 23 and the other is 63 years old!

OR

if the US citizen has submitted prior I 129F petitions numerous times in the past.

So it isn't that the govt officers will never take the time to read a number of e mail exchanges, but probibly more the situations where another aspect of the evidence was a little weak or something has made them wonder a litle bit.

But unless their is a reason, they only have so many minutes to look over and process your case and go to the next.

So yes relax : )

Rudy

US citizen

Thanks for the explanation! I will try and relax but my main concern was when it comes to the Embassy! I thought that the CO should read some of evidences in your petition to prepare for the interview but looks like they just touch the papers you take with you to the interview according to so many other posts (The proofs of ongoing relationship after the petition)!

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I did something a little similar - back in 2005 my husband (then friend) was trying to figure out something I was hiding from him about myself (that I liked him!) and he guessed "you're bipolar?" and I was like "whut?". I was worried afterwards that the medical board would want a letter from my GP stating I've never had bipolar but luckily it never came up :P


ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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I did something a little similar - back in 2005 my husband (then friend) was trying to figure out something I was hiding from him about myself (that I liked him!) and he guessed "you're bipolar?" and I was like "whut?". I was worried afterwards that the medical board would want a letter from my GP stating I've never had bipolar but luckily it never came up :P

Now that is a cute story :luv:


Immigration Timeline

 

June 2013: Met whilst working at a summer camp in Michigan 

K1

November 1st 2014: I-129f submitted for K1 visa

February 24th 2015: Visa in hand!

February 26th 2015: POE at Las Vegas airport, then onwards to Oregon! 

March 6th 2015: Marriage (with a "real" wedding to follow next year on 7/6/2016)

March 9th 2015: AOS, EAD & AP submitted

September 22nd 2015: Interview

January 14th 2016: Two year Green card received -phew!

ROC

August 8th 2017: 90 day window begins! ROC time!

September 28th 2017: Biometric Appointment in Portland, OR

March 5th 2018: Case received by local office

August 18th 2018: 18 month extension letter mailed

December 2018: Case moved to another office

February 2019: I was emailed that I was approved and my card was in production the same day of my N400 interview 😂

N400

August 8th 2018: Window opens to submit naturalization application

August 13th 2018: N400 Application submitted online 

August 14th 2018: NOA1

September 6th 2018: Biometrics

February 6th 2019: Interview Date! APPROVED!

February 6th 2019: I was asked to return later the same day for my Oath Ceremony! :dance:

 

❤️ Our Visa Journey is finally complete ❤️

 

I am the Beneficiary

 

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Imagine how boring it would be to read pages and pages of chat logs zzzzzzzz!

I'm sure you have nothing to worry about, everyone says silly things. If there are no other red flags, i'd be surprised if any issues arise.

Just relax :)


''No matter how painful distance can be, not having you in my life would be worse''

August 16 2013: Started dating

July 6 2014: Got engaged! (L)

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