filing fiance visa but me and my fiance are not engage yet.

[Pheebs1201 269]

Quite a few......probably the majority of denials are for this reason.

I think that's the point they were trying to make, as it was posted in response to this comment: "Relationship evidence is not required at all for the petition,"

[baron555 934]

I think that's the point they were trying to make, as it was posted in response to this comment: "Relationship evidence is not required at all for the petition,"

It isn't, it's for the interview.....but some consulates want to see front-loading of the petition.

[staceydinesh 7]

I left my answer short and sweet, I don't believe it has to be a long answer, just to the point.

Awesome. Thank you so much. Oh 1 more question. For question 35. That i need to do a 1 single sheet of paper stating how we met in person. Can you give me idea what to put coz i dont know where to start. I would appreciate it. Thanks

[M and C 32]

I havent propose to her yet. Because my plan is to propose to her when she gets here. Im just wondering if that could be a problem? I have all the proof that we met each other in person. Proof that we have genuine relationship.

By intending to do the K-1 and you said she's aware of it, technically she has agreed to marry you, right? For all intents and purposes of the visa process, you are already engaged, even if you have not formally proposed to her (I take it that by "proposal" you mean doing the custom of actually popping the question and all the fanfare that goes along with it. Correct me if I'm mistaken.)

If you guys have talked about filing for a K-1, in essence you have the intention of getting married when she gets here. That is exactly the purpose of filing for a K-1 visa. So even if you have not had a formal engagement yet, I would not think you will have a problem as long as you are able to prove that you have a genuine relationship. And again, for all intents and purposes of the visa application, you guys are "engaged" (we're just dealing with semantics here) because she is agreeing with you to petition her for a K-1.

[KayDeeCee 4,891]

And how many K-1's are denied because the couple could not prove they have a bonafide relationship?

I am sure plenty have been denied for that reason. That does not change the fact that proof of relationship is not required for the I-129F petition approval. The USCIS does not approve and issue visas. The Dept. of State does that and proving that you have a valid relationship in order to receive the K-1 visa is something that is done by the CO at the US consulate abroad.

For some consulates it is wise to include some evidence of ongoing relationship with the I-129F petition, but that is not to get the petition approved. Front-loading that way is for the consulate stage so that the documentation will already be in your case file before going to the K-1 visa interview. People have been denied the chance to present relationship evidence at the K-1 visa interview, and so if you already have included some in your petition submission, then they cannot deny that evidence. That is the whole point of front-loading. The people adjudicating the I-129F petition do not go over the relationship evidence and make any decisions about whether or not you have valid relationship. They only make sure you meet the requirements of the I-129F petition itself.

I think that's the point they were trying to make, as it was posted in response to this comment: "Relationship evidence is not required at all for the petition,"

It isn't required for the petition. Nowhere in the I-129F instructions does it ask for proof of engagement or proof you have a valid, ongoing relationship.

[Pheebs1201 269]

It isn't required for the petition. Nowhere in the I-129F instructions does it ask for proof of engagement or proof you have a valid, ongoing relationship.

No I know, that wasn't the point I was trying to make, but I misunderstood what a post prior to this was trying to say hence why I quoted this. My bad

[KayDeeCee 4,891]

Awesome. Thank you so much. Oh 1 more question. For question 35. That i need to do a 1 single sheet of paper stating how we met in person. Can you give me idea what to put coz i dont know where to start. I would appreciate it. Thanks

You just need to state when and where you met. For example>

"[Foreign fiance(e)'s name] and I initially met online through Facebook in March 2010. Since then we have formed a relationship and have visited together in person several times in the last few years. Our last visit together was in her hometown of XXX, Philippines for 2 weeks from July XX to July XX, 2014."

Then supply the passport stamps, boarding passes, receipts, photos, etc. from those visits to prove you met in person within the last 2 years.

[Nico25 1]

Can you guys give me an idea about the question in i-129F i think #35. where you have to make a single sheet of paper stating how you met in person?.. and for the g-325a question about address abroad for more than a year? what if my fiance did leave her country since birth what should i put?

Thanks

[Nico25 1]

You just need to state when and where you met. For example>

"[Foreign fiance(e)'s name] and I initially met online through Facebook in March 2010. Since then we have formed a relationship and have visited together in person several times in the last few years. Our last visit together was in her hometown of XXX, Philippines for 2 weeks from July XX to July XX, 2014."

Then supply the passport stamps, boarding passes, receipts, photos, etc. from those visits to prove you met in person within the last 2 years.

Thank you so much for the help. 1 more question about the g-325a. about the address abroad outside the US for more than a year. what if my fiance did not leave her foreign country since birth should i put her present address?

[Pheebs1201 269]

Thank you so much for the help. 1 more question about the g-325a. about the address abroad outside the US for more than a year. what if my fiance did not leave her foreign country since birth should i put her present address?

That's we did, just wrote my UK address again.

Edited November 12, 2014 by Pheebs1201

[annem 15]

It doesn't matter as long as you guys talked about marriage and she agrees to marry you of course.
"Engaged" & "Fiancé(e)" are just terms, it's certainly not a legal status, meaning that it can't be proven with a ring or a picture of you down on your knees The only proof they need is your intention to get married according to the K1 visa rules.

Edited November 12, 2014 by annem

[M and C 32]

Can you guys give me an idea about the question in i-129F i think #35. where you have to make a single sheet of paper stating how you met in person?.. and for the g-325a question about address abroad for more than a year? what if my fiance did leave her country since birth what should i put?

Thanks

Did she or did she not live in another country? If she did not live in another country since birth, you only need to provide her address for the last 5 years. If she lived in one address since birth in the Philippines, then you put just one address in the G-325A.

As for Question #35 in the 1-129F, if you have not met through a marriage broker (someone who arranged your marriage for a fee), then answer no.

Edited November 12, 2014 by M and C

[YamenWaad 45]

what are you planning for

you need this announcement that you are engaged otherwise it won't work out

[KayDeeCee 4,891]

Thank you so much for the help. 1 more question about the g-325a. about the address abroad outside the US for more than a year. what if my fiance did not leave her foreign country since birth should i put her present address?

Yes, just repeat her current address. http://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-G-325A.pdf

[Nico25 1]

Yes, just repeat her current address. http://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-G-325A.pdf

i see, thank you so much for the help.. uhm the bottom part for the connection. does it matter if put I-129f or K-1 Visa?