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So, last December we applied for a K1 Visa, and we got approved like 2.5 months (really quickly) by the USCIS, and then they passed our case on to the American Embassy in Algers, Algeria. He had his interview last Monday. They told him that we didn't have enough evidence of a bona fide relationship and that I don't earn enough money or at least haven't been earning it for long enough.

I just barely graduated college this past May. But meanwhile last October, I got a job while I was still in school and I make $28,000. I know it's not a ton, but we're not going to starve. Plus my fiance has a degree in Civil Engineering and I just graduated with a degree in Public Relations. It's not like we're not educated. It's going to be a little difficult when he can't work for the first part but we'll make do fine. The interview guy said that yes, I made enough to be considered above the poverty line, but I haven't been earning enough money for long enough.

We thought we had enough evidence. There is nothing suspicious about either of us. Neither of us have broken the law (In algeria or in the US). We're around the same age (Me, 23 Him, 24). We submitted our lease from when we lived together for 2 years, photos of us together, references for them to call, a lot of our conversations on facebook, and phone records.

They said we don't call enough but it's like .32 a minute and the time difference makes it difficult. When he's done with work, I'm at work and we can't skype often because the internet in Algeria is beyond crappy. We spend half the time trying to get the internet to cooperate. He said our lease didn't prove anything else either because it was a 2 bedroom place. We chose the place because the location was great and the apartment complex only offered 2 bedroom locations.

And then originally, the interview guy said that my fiancee could bring back more evidence and they'd consider offering him another interview. So I called a lawyer, who said she'd help me put together more evidence. We we're going to submit affadavidts from friends, more photos, and all the wedding planning stuff we've already purchased (a down payment on a location, the dress, an actual wedding planner service).

So yesterday, I have my fiance call the embassy again, to confirm the status of our case and they say our case had been denied! But the interview guy said we could resubmit evidence to the embassy and they'd consider offering him another interview!

I don't know what to do at this point. I'm so frustrated. I haven't seen my fiance since last May of 2013 and we've been planning this big wedding for August.

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So, last December we applied for a K1 Visa, and we got approved like 2.5 months (really quickly) by the USCIS, and then they passed our case on to the American Embassy in Algers, Algeria. He had his interview last Monday. They told him that we didn't have enough evidence of a bona fide relationship and that I don't earn enough money or at least haven't been earning it for long enough.

I just barely graduated college this past May. But meanwhile last October, I got a job while I was still in school and I make $28,000. I know it's not a ton, but we're not going to starve. Plus my fiance has a degree in Civil Engineering and I just graduated with a degree in Public Relations. It's not like we're not educated. It's going to be a little difficult when he can't work for the first part but we'll make do fine. The interview guy said that yes, I made enough to be considered above the poverty line, but I haven't been earning enough money for long enough.

We thought we had enough evidence. There is nothing suspicious about either of us. Neither of us have broken the law (In algeria or in the US). We're around the same age (Me, 23 Him, 24). We submitted our lease from when we lived together for 2 years, photos of us together, references for them to call, a lot of our conversations on facebook, and phone records.

They said we don't call enough but it's like .32 a minute and the time difference makes it difficult. When he's done with work, I'm at work and we can't skype often because the internet in Algeria is beyond crappy. We spend half the time trying to get the internet to cooperate. He said our lease didn't prove anything else either because it was a 2 bedroom place. We chose the place because the location was great and the apartment complex only offered 2 bedroom locations.

And then originally, the interview guy said that my fiancee could bring back more evidence and they'd consider offering him another interview. So I called a lawyer, who said she'd help me put together more evidence. We we're going to submit affadavidts from friends, more photos, and all the wedding planning stuff we've already purchased (a down payment on a location, the dress, an actual wedding planner service).

So yesterday, I have my fiance call the embassy again, to confirm the status of our case and they say our case had been denied! But the interview guy said we could resubmit evidence to the embassy and they'd consider offering him another interview!

I don't know what to do at this point. I'm so frustrated. I haven't seen my fiance since last May of 2013 and we've been planning this big wedding for August.

I am sorry to hear that. What was your fiance's status on CEAC website? Administrative Processing or Denied?

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat

- Sun Tzu-

It doesn't matter how slow you go as long as you don't stop

-Confucius-

 

-I am the beneficiary and my post is not reflecting my petitioner's point of views-

 

                                       Lifting Condition (I-751)

 

*Mailed I-751 package (06/21/2017) to CSC

*NOA-1 date (06/23/2017)

*NOA-1 received (06/28/2017)

*Check cashed (06/27/2017)

*Biometric Received (07/10/2017)

*Biometric Appointment (07/20/2017)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I just checked it and it's acting like we need to schedule an interview. Here is a picture of what it says: http://imgur.com/6ea2gtd

And if you look at the bottom it says it was updated June 16th (Monday) and that's when his interview was, but when we called yesterday they said it was denied. And when he talked to the interview guy he said we could resubmit to the embassy. I'm soooo confused!

Posted

Can you go to Algeria and see him, and even try to go to the interview with him. This is the biggest evidence you can present.

I would love to go! But the tickets are around $1,400 - $1,600. We had to save for quite a while just to get his ticket for him to eventaully to come here.

Posted

I just checked it and it's acting like we need to schedule an interview. Here is a picture of what it says: http://imgur.com/6ea2gtd

And if you look at the bottom it says it was updated June 16th (Monday) and that's when his interview was, but when we called yesterday they said it was denied. And when he talked to the interview guy he said we could resubmit to the embassy. I'm soooo confused!

There is a chance that he might be not denied. I read on VJ before the consular officer ask the beneficiary to bring his petitioner in order to come to second interview (stokes interview). She then finally came and last time I heard that they were approved. It might be saved up money not to come but highly slim chance he gets the approval. Better to take a risk rather than to start over again or choose the other path of immigration journey.

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat

- Sun Tzu-

It doesn't matter how slow you go as long as you don't stop

-Confucius-

 

-I am the beneficiary and my post is not reflecting my petitioner's point of views-

 

                                       Lifting Condition (I-751)

 

*Mailed I-751 package (06/21/2017) to CSC

*NOA-1 date (06/23/2017)

*NOA-1 received (06/28/2017)

*Check cashed (06/27/2017)

*Biometric Received (07/10/2017)

*Biometric Appointment (07/20/2017)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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Posted

There is a chance that he might be not denied. I read on VJ before the consular officer ask the beneficiary to bring his petitioner in order to come to second interview (stokes interview). She then finally came and last time I heard that they were approved. It might be saved up money not to come but highly slim chance he gets the approval. Better to take a risk rather than to start over again or choose the other path of immigration journey.

I believe Stokes interview is only for Marriage based adjustment of status, I have never heard of or read about stokes interview for K-1 visas. I might be wrong though.

To the op, I'm sorry that you are going through this, but if your fiancée will be called for 2nd interview, your presence will certainly help. Good luck.

February 28- AOS package sent. ( I-130, I-485, I-765)
March 5- Package delivered to USCIS Chicago.
March 11- Email and text notification with Receipt Numbers.
March 14- Hardcopy of NOA1 for all three applications.
March 21- Received biometrics appointment letter for 04/04/2014
April 2 - Completed Walk in Biometrics appointment successfully. (Original Appointment was for 4th April)
April 9- I-485 Case status has been updated to " Testing & Interview "
April 16- Text and email alert for case update for AOS interview on 22nd May 2014.
April 18- Hardcopy of Interview notice received in mail.
May 22- AOS interview, approved on the spot and got stamp in my passport.
May 27 - Approval notice of I-130 and I-485 in mail.
May 29- Received GC in mail.

ROC Timeline:

03/28/2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

03/29/2016: Package delivered.

03/31/2016: cheque cached.

04/02/2016: Received NOA1 in mail, dated 03/29/2016.

04/13/2016: Received Biometrics notice for the date of 04/25/2016.

04/21/2016: Early walk in Biometrics

09/28/2016: Text and email alert about approval of ROC

10/06/2016: Received 10-years green card in mail

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Posted

Very sorry to hear this. As far as you flying there... I know that it is a lot of money but this might be your only chance. If I were in your shoes I would sign up for a credit card and purchase a plane ticket. Some times the obvious answer sucks, but it's the long run that matters.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jordan
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Posted

There is a chance that he might be not denied. I read on VJ before the consular officer ask the beneficiary to bring his petitioner in order to come to second interview (stokes interview). She then finally came and last time I heard that they were approved. It might be saved up money not to come but highly slim chance he gets the approval. Better to take a risk rather than to start over again or choose the other path of immigration journey.

stokes interview is only done in the case of married couples

I believe Stokes interview is only for Marriage based adjustment of status, I have never heard of or read about stokes interview for K-1 visas. I might be wrong though.

To the op, I'm sorry that you are going through this, but if your fiancée will be called for 2nd interview, your presence will certainly help. Good luck

A stokes interview can be done for any marriage based visa, not just adjustment of status

http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/stokes-interview-marriage-based-immigration.php


Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Posted

1. I believe Stokes interview is only for Marriage based adjustment of status, I have never heard of or read about stokes interview for K-1 visas. I might be wrong though.

2. To the op, I'm sorry that you are going through this, but if your fiancée will be called for 2nd interview, your presence will certainly help. Good luck.

1. This is very wrong, as those of us who went through the hellhole Guayaquil consulate can attest.

2. This is very true. Research plane tickets for yourself. Get through to the embassy on the phone and insist on talking with an American, preferably the Section Chief of the Immigrant Visa Unit. Explain your financial circumstances, and insist on a firm date within your "cheap" travel period when you and the CO can meet, face-to-face. Say that you will not accept being put through a Stokes interview, but you will meet with the CO and answer all questions very frankly.

1. stokes interview is only done in the case of married couples

2. A stokes interview can be done for any marriage based visa, not just adjustment of status

http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/stokes-interview-marriage-based-immigration.php

1. And K-1, too, most definitely.

2. True.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

stokes interview is only done in the case of married couples

A stokes interview can be done for any marriage based visa, not just adjustment of status

http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/stokes-interview-marriage-based-immigration.php

That was I thought. But if I am not mistakenly remember there was a member here from Nigeria mentioned about that. The consular officer asked the beneficiary to bring his fiancée to the interview. They then had been interviewed in separate rooms. Last time I heard they were approved. I was trying to find the post but came no avail.

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat

- Sun Tzu-

It doesn't matter how slow you go as long as you don't stop

-Confucius-

 

-I am the beneficiary and my post is not reflecting my petitioner's point of views-

 

                                       Lifting Condition (I-751)

 

*Mailed I-751 package (06/21/2017) to CSC

*NOA-1 date (06/23/2017)

*NOA-1 received (06/28/2017)

*Check cashed (06/27/2017)

*Biometric Received (07/10/2017)

*Biometric Appointment (07/20/2017)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Posted

To re-emphasize: K-1 petitioners can be (and have been) ordered to appear at the consulate and be put through a Stokes interview.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/110313-us-consulate-in-guayaquil-ecuador/

The OP had best grab the bull by the horns, set an appointment on her terms and at her timing, and beg or borrow the funds to travel to the embassy. We all had to do it (at great personal expense and sacrifice), and trying any other method will take many months and very well might prove fruitless.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
Timeline
Posted

Take a letter from your employer that states the job is long term and they have no intention to let you go as you are an asset to the company. Borrow the money, fly over and take all the extra evidence and hand it over in person.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

Take a letter from your employer that states the job is long term and they have no intention to let you go as you are an asset to the company. Borrow the money, fly over and take all the extra evidence and hand it over in person.

...hand it over in person -- to an American.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
Timeline
Posted

Thanks for the correction guys.

February 28- AOS package sent. ( I-130, I-485, I-765)
March 5- Package delivered to USCIS Chicago.
March 11- Email and text notification with Receipt Numbers.
March 14- Hardcopy of NOA1 for all three applications.
March 21- Received biometrics appointment letter for 04/04/2014
April 2 - Completed Walk in Biometrics appointment successfully. (Original Appointment was for 4th April)
April 9- I-485 Case status has been updated to " Testing & Interview "
April 16- Text and email alert for case update for AOS interview on 22nd May 2014.
April 18- Hardcopy of Interview notice received in mail.
May 22- AOS interview, approved on the spot and got stamp in my passport.
May 27 - Approval notice of I-130 and I-485 in mail.
May 29- Received GC in mail.

ROC Timeline:

03/28/2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

03/29/2016: Package delivered.

03/31/2016: cheque cached.

04/02/2016: Received NOA1 in mail, dated 03/29/2016.

04/13/2016: Received Biometrics notice for the date of 04/25/2016.

04/21/2016: Early walk in Biometrics

09/28/2016: Text and email alert about approval of ROC

10/06/2016: Received 10-years green card in mail

 
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