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Hello everyone. I just had to write this post not bashing anyone in particular. But some times I does be reading some things on here and does really be wondering how genuine some relationships does be. Women staying in abusive marriages just for papers, ppl saying they got abuse and then applying for vawa. And then you hear spouses fleeing after getting the green card. I does wonder if some ppl does wonder what they getting themselves. I honestly believe some ppl does only marry for papers. And after that they try to bring their whole family over. I can say these words cause I have seen it for myself. I had an aunt that did it once. It's like the saying goes, the world is a business, if it's not for gain then I'm not joining and this is the mentality of some ppl. But like they said what's in the dark must definitely come out to the light, if not sooner but definitely later. So my advice to ppl, if it doesn't work so, don't be a fool, and don't be ashamed, just pack up your things and go home. Life is more than just money and papers. Be satisfied with what you have.

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So my advice to ppl, if it doesn't work so, don't be a fool, and don't be ashamed, just pack up your things and go home. Life is more than just money and papers. Be satisfied with what you have.

People have given up their careers and homes to immigrate to the US. It is not as simple as packing up and going home. Their life and home is here, now, and there is not always something to go back to.

Sure there are people who are in it for the greencard. That is why it is up to the petitioner to ensure they are not being scammed.

I am moving your thread from Effects of Major Changes to General Immigration Discussion as a more fitting venue.

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But the same way they packed up their life and move to the America is the same they could pack back their lives and move back home. If you going to have a hard time in life, why not have it in the country you was born. One right you could never give up in life is where you were born. Even if you nautrilize, your new passport still says where you was born. All I can conclude is that there are sick and twisted ppl in this world. Going through all of that for a green card or a little blue book.

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But the same way they packed up their life and move to the America is the same they could pack back their lives and move back home. If you going to have a hard time in life, why not have it in the country you was born. One right you could never give up in life is where you were born. Even if you nautrilize, your new passport still says where you was born. All I can conclude is that there are sick and twisted ppl in this world. Going through all of that for a green card or a little blue book.

I totally agree...

I find it really strange that people are given a k1 visa after only meeting once in the last 2 years... I find the whole thing really strange.

I do understand that there are some relationships that are very genuine and in this situation but thousands?

My partner and I have discussed it at length and my same answer is always that I would want to come back home if anything happened to our relationship. (Granted, we have lived together for close to 5 years so we are pretty solid!)

I mean, look at the forums. Why are there so many of 1 particular country coming on a spouse visa? Why after their first attempt at 'Love' do they question if there new relationship can now sponsor them because the first one didn't work out? Doesn't that scream 'I'm trying to get a greencard'???

Look at the VAWA posts, there are literally thousands of comments on some of the posts. Its like a hand book of how to scam.

I just don't understand why the government would let people in when they clearly don't know the person they are 'in love' with and able to commit their life too.

Anyways, I'm sure people will disagree with this whole post and the comments I have made but that just my take.

Im open to hearing others incite to give me a grater understanding of something I have no experience with!

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You took the words right out of my mouth. Look at the VAWA post for real. That's like the incite on how to successfully finish scamming your petitioner. Just adding to what you said about love, love does take time to grow. One time of bonding isn't enough to just fall in love, that's falling in lust. I guess just like me you see the country with the most K1 visas applications but I wouldn't comment on it

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I've met my wife in person twice. I've spoken to her literally for hours every day for four years. We looked at our logs and with eight months of chatlogs missing due to a computer malfunction? We still have over 52 novels' worth of words written to each other, well over 8.5 million words. I know her mind, I know her heart. I know I love her.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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@ Not a tailor. That's good you have your life all planned out. But I think you don't understand my post. Read carefully what I'm saying and while reading pause and think for a minute. For a moment don't think with your heart and use your brain and you will see what I'm talking bout ad you will have to agree. And btw I think you need to travel more, I don't think you have seen much in life, ppl dying to get their hands on Canadian papers to. I work for customs and immigration in my country so I know what I'm saying.

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I've met my wife in person twice. I've spoken to her literally for hours every day for four years. We looked at our logs and with eight months of chatlogs missing due to a computer malfunction? We still have over 52 novels' worth of words written to each other, well over 8.5 million words. I know her mind, I know her heart. I know I love her.

I Def think that you can fall in live with out meeting someone and this post really doesnt seem to be directed at you. Canada to the USA really isnt that much of a huge adjustment, I think its just bringing up a point of people who clearly would not date if a greencard wasnt up for grabs... why is a 20 something from a non english speaking country dating a man in their 50's who have nothing in common and have met twice? Love, lust? If the situation was switched and said lady was from the states would she fall in love with the same man from the other country? My guess is no. Now I am not speaking for all online relationships, just the ones that clearly make no sense.

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My grandmother just got married to a man who's my mother's age. They're very happy together and very much in love. I'm really failing to see the problem.

And I should travel more? Really? Just because there are people who want to live in Canada? I'm not sure why that's even relevant.

Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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Exactly! Ppl try to take advantage of a system that's suppose to help those that really need it. By making false claims all they are doing is ruining someone's life. Like I was telling the other guy, I work for customs and immigration in my country so these are things I does see on a daily basis, that's why I can argue and talk from experience. I have a neighbor who came from another country and married a local and she does be cheating on her husband daily that she even got pregnant for another guy from her home country. All she ever talks about is making 5 years in marriage so that she can have her papers.

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Posts have been removed for crossing the line with degrading comments and personal attacks.

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I do also think a lot of people play the system, but it can be difficult weeding these people out without simultaneously denying immigration benefits to legit couples when the bar is set so high. There is only so much evidence of a bona fide relationship you can produce. I've seen people here who submit a healthy amount and are still asked for more. They send more than is humanly possible and are still denied.

While all this is going on, fraudsters still manage to sneak through and get their visa. The system isn't perfect and probably never will be. You see a lot of stories here to do with VAWA, but in truth, they are the minority of cases. The vast majority of visa applicants don't come to websites like this, so you wouldn't read about their successful stories.

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ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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I totally agree...

I find it really strange that people are given a k1 visa after only meeting once in the last 2 years... I find the whole thing really strange.

I do understand that there are some relationships that are very genuine and in this situation but thousands?

My partner and I have discussed it at length and my same answer is always that I would want to come back home if anything happened to our relationship. (Granted, we have lived together for close to 5 years so we are pretty solid!)

I mean, look at the forums. Why are there so many of 1 particular country coming on a spouse visa? Why after their first attempt at 'Love' do they question if there new relationship can now sponsor them because the first one didn't work out? Doesn't that scream 'I'm trying to get a greencard'???

Look at the VAWA posts, there are literally thousands of comments on some of the posts. Its like a hand book of how to scam.

I just don't understand why the government would let people in when they clearly don't know the person they are 'in love' with and able to commit their life too.

Anyways, I'm sure people will disagree with this whole post and the comments I have made but that just my take.

Im open to hearing others incite to give me a grater understanding of something I have no experience with!

That exactly how we see it, We talked about it, I asked if he would like to come to the UK with me, But since he has a stable job and family etc etc and I have pretty much nothing except for family, We both agreed that I'd go to the US, but If anything would happen between us, I'd fly back home cause I don't want the greencard, I only want to be with him (Cheesy, right?) But That how I see it, I don't care where in the world we are just as long as I have him with me :)


Service Center : Texas Service Center

Transferred? No

Consulate : London, United Kingdom

I-129F Sent : 2014-03-18

I-129F NOA1 : 2014-03-24

I-129F NOA2 : 2014-09-09

(Sent to NVC: 2014-09-15)

NVC Received : 2014-09-22

NVC Left :2014-09-26

Medical : 2014-09-29

Consulate Received : 2014-09-29

Packet 3 Received : 2014-10-06

Packet 3 Sent :

Packet 4 Received : 2014-10-23

Interview Date : 2014-11-07

Interview Result : APPROVED!!

AP : 2014-11-12 (2 hours)

Issued: 2014- 11- 12

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I don't care what others do or why. If scammers make it harder for me to prove something, then I try harder to prove it because it's genuine. Does it make me angry? A little, of course, but there is nothing I can do about someone who wants to use someone else. I cannot control anyone else or their actions, only myself. This isn't a case of I can see the bully and I can do something to stop it.

I get why some people want to stay in the USA after they've been here and developed friends and a career. I wouldn't, however. Even with my plans of going back to school and getting a new degree, I can always re-certify in Canada. I would not stay in the USA. But my personal choice cannot be foisted upon anyone else.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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