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Hi Everyone!

Today has been an emotionally day for me and my fiancé. I'm seeking for some advice on what my next steps are.

My fiancé and I met when he came to the US on a visiting visa and we fell in love. He went back home, Tanzania, at the end of his stay. A few months after he left we knew we couldn’t live without each other and decided to tie the knot. All of our paperwork went fine with USCIS and on time as expected. The real issue started at his interview with the US embassy. My fiancé is divorced and was never married legally (through the court), only religiously, without any proper documentation. The embassy requested for marriage and divorce papers which my fiancé was able to provide and also translated copy. He also took an oath which was signed and notarized. After providing additional documents that US embassy requested for they sent him a refusal letter for the following reason today:

"We are returning the petition to USCIS for consideration of possible revocation given that the relationship appears to exist solely to derive immigration benefits. You will receive instructions from USCIS after they have reviewed the petition."

I need your help. What can I expect from USCIS to help me prepare for what’s next? Will I be able to appeal the case? How long will this take? We’re ready to be married and have a family. I am ready to go there and have our wedding there with his family and friends there and we will have one here later once he is here with my family and friends. Will it help my case if I go now and be married to him? I don’t know what direction to take; any advice would be much appreciated.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Unfortunately, the USE obviously thinks you both do not have a bonafide relationship. I would review the evidence you submitted and go over each question they asked your fiance.

I am not certain if you can appeal a K-1, but in any case, you may wish to speak with an immigration lawyer for advice on your next step.

Filed: Timeline
Posted

He's been divorce for over 10 years. He's only 3 years older than me. The only thing I can think of is the status. When we came to the US he field as "divorced" but when we filed with our attorney she told us to file as "single" since he was not legally married. She failed to prepare us for what documents he need to prepare for hence the additional documents they requested. We have only seen each other during the time period he was here visiting. That does not justify for the refusal. We provided them lots and lots of evidence of our relationship.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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You can expect your petition to go back to USCIS (I gather CSC since that’s where it was to start) and it will sit and expire.

You next move instead of waiting for USCIS is get married and file a IR1/CR1. With him not really marrying you say than not marrying you it looks suspect to them.

Get married refile. Sorry CR1/IR1 are taking quite awhile you are looking at 12 to 16 months start to finish.

Really sorry for your delays

And know Facetime is the #1 evidence you can ever have.

Edited by dwheels76

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Hi Everyone!

Today has been an emotionally day for me and my fiancé. I'm seeking for some advice on what my next steps are.

My fiancé and I met when he came to the US on a visiting visa and we fell in love. He went back home, Tanzania, at the end of his stay. A few months after he left we knew we couldn’t live without each other and decided to tie the knot. All of our paperwork went fine with USCIS and on time as expected. The real issue started at his interview with the US embassy. My fiancé is divorced and was never married legally (through the court), only religiously, without any proper documentation. The embassy requested for marriage and divorce papers which my fiancé was able to provide and also translated copy. He also took an oath which was signed and notarized. After providing additional documents that US embassy requested for they sent him a refusal letter for the following reason today:

"We are returning the petition to USCIS for consideration of possible revocation given that the relationship appears to exist solely to derive immigration benefits. You will receive instructions from USCIS after they have reviewed the petition."

I need your help. What can I expect from USCIS to help me prepare for what’s next? Will I be able to appeal the case? How long will this take? We’re ready to be married and have a family. I am ready to go there and have our wedding there with his family and friends there and we will have one here later once he is here with my family and friends. Will it help my case if I go now and be married to him? I don’t know what direction to take; any advice would be much appreciated.

If he mentioned to the CO that both of you will have a wedding in his country and later on in the US, I think you are not qualify for K-1 visa anymore since K-1 visa purpose is a non-immigrant get married to a USC in the US soil. Instead, you have to filed a spousal visa to bring him to the US.

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Filed: Timeline
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@Girl from Celebes: No, he did not say that. At his interview he told them we will have our wedding in the US once he is here.

I mentioned that we would get marry there if that proves anything since I have no direction on what to do next. That was not in our plans for me to go there and marry and then have another celebration here.

Edited by y3rh@roon
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@Girl from Celebes: No, he did not say that. At his interview he told them we will have our wedding in the US once he is here.

I mentioned that we would get marry there if that proves anything since I have no direction on what to do next. That was not in our plans for me to go there and marry and then have another celebration here.

Oh okay. Most of people always suggested to file a spousal visa after K-1 visa refusal. But I guess you have to overcome "the divorce paper problem" first and resolved it since seems it is the main problem of refusal. The reason why I said about what he answered or question during the interview because when I had mine, the CO asked me where I will going to get married. Some people caught saying they will going to get married in their own countries instead in the US.

The other thing that concern me though that when you filed for I-129F, your attorney put as " a single" and later on at the US embassy, they found out that he was married before even though it was not legally one. The CO probably thought you were trying to conceal the information and it can fall into "misrepresented documents".

Edited by Girl from Celebes

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Kenya
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He's been divorce for over 10 years. He's only 3 years older than me. The only thing I can think of is the status. When we came to the US he field as "divorced" but when we filed with our attorney she told us to file as "single" since he was not legally married. She failed to prepare us for what documents he need to prepare for hence the additional documents they requested. We have only seen each other during the time period he was here visiting. That does not justify for the refusal. We provided them lots and lots of evidence of our relationship.

Nope, I don't believe the divorce has anything to do with the denial. They don't think you have a legitimate relationship, regardless of the lots and lots of evidence.

It's all about it's content and not the quantity.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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He's been divorce for over 10 years. He's only 3 years older than me. The only thing I can think of is the status. When we came to the US he field as "divorced" but when we filed with our attorney she told us to file as "single" since he was not legally married. She failed to prepare us for what documents he need to prepare for hence the additional documents they requested. We have only seen each other during the time period he was here visiting. That does not justify for the refusal. We provided them lots and lots of evidence of our relationship.

When you say lots of evidence what did you submit with your petition?

How long did you spend together in person when you meet?

And you say that's was your only meet?

Has he ever petitioned anyone before?

Have you ever been petitioned before?

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cameroon
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He's been divorce for over 10 years. He's only 3 years older than me. The only thing I can think of is the status. When we came to the US he field as "divorced" but when we filed with our attorney she told us to file as "single" since he was not legally married. She failed to prepare us for what documents he need to prepare for hence the additional documents they requested. We have only seen each other during the time period he was here visiting. That does not justify for the refusal. We provided them lots and lots of evidence of our relationship.

It's not the quantity of evidence that matters, it's the quality/content.

Started Talking===================: 2012

Met in person====================: May 2013

K-1 (i-129):

USCIS:

Got engaged=====================: May 2013

Filed i-129=======================: Aug 2013

NO1============================: Aug 8, 2013

RFE============================: September 2013

NO2============================: October 15, 2013,

NVC:

Received:

Case#===========================: October 28, 2013

Approved ========================: October 2013

Sent=============================: November 2013

Embassy (Yaounde, Cameroon):

Received=========================: November 2013

Packet 3 (Instructions) ==============: December 2013

Interview=========================: January 28, 2014

RFE ============================: February 2014

2nd RFE=========================: March 2014

Results (Final decision) =============: April 2, 2014 (Denied. CEAC Website still says AP)

IR-1/CR-1 (i-130):

USCIS:

Got married=======================: May 8, 2014

Filed i-130========================: September 9, 2014

NO1=============================: September 11, 2014

Filed Expedite Request==============: October 3, 2014 (Approved)

NO2=============================: November 3, 2014

NVC:

Received=========================: December 22, 2014

Case#:

Filed Expedite Request==============: Feb 11, 2015

(Approved By Embassy-Yaounde, Cameroon

but says case must be completed by NVC first before the can proceed with the request)

Expedite Request Approved==========: February 27, 2015

AOS Invoiced / Received DS-261======: January 30, 2015

AOS Paid online===================: January 30, 2015

IV Invoiced=======================: February 18, 2015

IV Paid Online ====================: February 18, 2015

AOS & IV package sent off===========: February 20, 2015

Scanned date=====================: February 23, 2015

Checklist=========================: March 27, 2015

2nd Scanned date==================: April 3, 2015

Case Complete ====================: April 24, 2015

Appointment Date ==================: Expedited. Date by Embassy. (Tuesday June 23, 2015 at 9a.m )

Sent=============================: May 1, 2015

Embassy (Yaounde, Cameroon):

Received =========================: May 5, 2015

Packet 3 & Packet 4 (Instructions) ======: May 11, 2015

Interview =========================: Tuesday June 23, 2015 at 9a.m


Results===========================: APPROVED!

Visa in hand =====================: July 9, 2015


U.S.A.


Port Of Entry=======================: New York John F. Kennedy (JFK) International Airport (July 11, 2015)

Applied for SSN====================: July 22, 2015

Received SSN====================: July 27, 2015

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Italy
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Posted

At the very least, you need to go for another visit and meet his family since it seems the only time you met was here in the USA? I also do, not think that the divorce is an issue, it is an issue of not enough time together and/or evidence of real relationship... Wich you will need to address... If you list what evidence you provided, perhaps we can get an idea of where you are lacking?

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Posted

Although you satisfied the meeting-within-2-years requirement, the embassies and USCIS have a wide berth as to the reasons they can deny. Technically, they can deny people if they don't like their shoes (though hopefully that has never happened!). Even though you have met, they are suspicious as to how it can be a real relationship if you only met once, in the US, and then decided to marry. To them, it looks like your fiancé went to America, loved it, and decided he wanted to come back via marriage to the first American woman he could find. That is essentially the "easiest" way into America as a permanent resident.

I would recommend you visit each other more, and build up a portfolio of ongoing evidence of your relationship. Photos, chat logs, gift receipts on Amazon, texts, phone calls etc over a long period of time. You will probably find he will have difficulty getting a B-2 tourist visa to the US now since he has displayed prior immigrant intent, so you should make plans for multiple visits to his country.

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Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

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Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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Posted

Hi Everyone!

Today has been an emotionally day for me and my fiancé. I'm seeking for some advice on what my next steps are.

My fiancé and I met when he came to the US on a visiting visa and we fell in love. He went back home, Tanzania, at the end of his stay. A few months after he left we knew we couldn’t live without each other and decided to tie the knot. All of our paperwork went fine with USCIS and on time as expected. The real issue started at his interview with the US embassy. My fiancé is divorced and was never married legally (through the court), only religiously, without any proper documentation. The embassy requested for marriage and divorce papers which my fiancé was able to provide and also translated copy. He also took an oath which was signed and notarized. After providing additional documents that US embassy requested for they sent him a refusal letter for the following reason today:

"We are returning the petition to USCIS for consideration of possible revocation given that the relationship appears to exist solely to derive immigration benefits. You will receive instructions from USCIS after they have reviewed the petition."

I need your help. What can I expect from USCIS to help me prepare for what’s next? Will I be able to appeal the case? How long will this take? We’re ready to be married and have a family. I am ready to go there and have our wedding there with his family and friends there and we will have one here later once he is here with my family and friends. Will it help my case if I go now and be married to him? I don’t know what direction to take; any advice would be much appreciated.

You can talk to the admins here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/61405522650/

Maybe they can help you out.. Stayu positive and strong..

 
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