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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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My friend Bob, who took me to the Philippines the first time, where I met my (now) wife, may have a huge problem. I will explain.

He marrried a Filipino lady, about 1 and 1/2 years ago. She went back to the Philippines with friends of ours who were also married for an extended visit. Bob,s wife told him she was going to stay 4-5 months, but there are two ""married couples"" friends of ours who went also. But, Bob's wife went by her self, (if she was my wife and was going to stay 4-5 months, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A ONE WAY TICKET) but he was "ok" with it.

Now, he is informed by her that she ""IS NOT COMING BACK"" and is actually going to another country to work!!!!!!!!!!!! He also told me that she had asked and horded money from him for un-true events.,.,she was planning this? Probably, but his love is blind, I guess.

Yes, Bob, is hurt, but if she does not want to be here, HE does not want her here in the USA.

We live in South Carolina, and you must be separated 1 year before you can be divorced, so she has been gone nearly 5 months, so in 7 months he will pursue a divorce, FOR SURE!

My question, ""DOES HE HAVE SIGNIFICANT OBLIGATIONS TO HER PER USCIS, IF SO WHAT ARE THEY AND WHAT CAN HE DO, TO AVOID THEM, IF POSSIBLE.

She has her 2 year GC, and EAD/AP.,.,SS number.,., and just decided she wants to do something else.

I just worry for him, as what he should do, as I feel obligated, as he took me to Cebu and ""I found my QUEEN!""

Any advice is appreciated, my friend needs some peace of mind!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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No clue what any of this has to do with the K-1 process. As far as his obligations for immigration, he will still be on the hook for the I-864 until her green card is surrendered/abandoned, but if she is not in the US it doesn't matter. If she cannot remove conditions on her 2 year card, then her permanent residency will be lost. Since she is moving to another country, I do not think there is anything he needs to do. She will lose her green card by living outside the US, the I-864 will no longer be valid then, and he will be divorcing her.

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Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Kay,

Sorry for where the post ended up, as I was not sure where to post it.,.,.but your answer was what I wanted, IT is a very sad situation..,.I really feel sorry for him!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Australia
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Hi am sorry to hear of your friends problems, I hope information I found in the Australian embassy info today helps somewhat.

You may lose your permanent resident status (green card) if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States or abandon your permanent resident status. A lawful permanent resident (LPR) normally may travel outside the United States and return; however, there are some limitations.

If you remain away from the United States for:

  • 180 days to one year, you will be required to apply for a new “admission” at the time of your arrival at a United States port of entry.
  • One year or longer, your legal permanent resident card will become invalid for travel to the United States and you will need to apply for a returning resident visa in order to resume your U.S. residence.

If you plan to remain outside the U.S. for one year or more, you should apply for a re-entry permit before you leave the United States. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) have sole responsibility for adjudicating I-131 re-entry permit applications. Applications cannot be lodged at U.S. Consulates or Embassies overseas.

Please note that your U.S. permanent residence may be considered as abandoned for absences shorter than one year if you take up residence in another country. U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has sole responsibility for determining an alien’s eligibility for admission to the U.S. as a permanent resident.

Please refer to the USCIS website for further information on residency requirements.

If her plans stay the same and she carries on with her current plans it sounds like it will take care of itself. Good luck and best wishes to your friend, its a sad predicament for him.

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Best case scenario:

If she fails to remove the condition on her green card, she will lose her LPR status and Bob is off the hook.

Worst case scenario:

She comes back to the US, files for divorce, and file to remove the condition on her green card by herself with a divorce waiver, she can remain an LPR forever. She can choose to earn zero income and sue Bob for support under his I-864 obligations. Bob would pay this 125%poverty level support for as long as she is an LPR. It ends when of them dies.

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Seriously, can we stop generalizing and attacking nations/people? It's really unbecoming. OP, Like others have said, if Bob's wife stays out of the country for more than one year or if she takes up residence in another country then the USCIS will consider her LPR status abandoned then he will have nothing to worry about. Aaron2020's advice is the most astute, however.

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Wow...what a surprise. I wonder if there were any RED Flags to their relationship? Like a big age gap? Sounds like shes been planning to run for months. Swindled money and a green card from him. Poor bob. Well, maybe not poor...he may be rich. I wonder if she is really still in the Philippines. She could've gone back to the Philippines and already came back to the u.s. without ever telling bob that she was back and shacked up with a new guy already. I guess bob may find out when he ends up having to pay support for her due to his i864 obligations.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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I wonder if she is really still in the Philippines. She could've gone back to the Philippines and already came back to the u.s. without ever telling bob that she was back and shacked up with a new guy already. I guess bob may find out when he ends up having to pay support for her due to his i864 obligations.

That's the most likely scenario.

November 14th, 2013: She's here!

December 12th, 2013: Picked up marriage license.

December 14th, 2013: Wedding

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Several posts removed for TOS violations and administrative action taken against one member. Stick to the topic and be supportive, or do not post.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Wow...what a surprise. I wonder if there were any RED Flags to their relationship? Like a big age gap? Sounds like shes been planning to run for months. Swindled money and a green card from him. Poor bob. Well, maybe not poor...he may be rich. I wonder if she is really still in the Philippines. She could've gone back to the Philippines and already came back to the u.s. without ever telling bob that she was back and shacked up with a new guy already. I guess bob may find out when he ends up having to pay support for her due to his i864 obligations.

That's the most likely scenario.

I don't know how these 2 posts can lead to anything constructive to the OP's aim, which is to help his friend. Assumptions like your "what ifs" and "most likely the case" are totally uncalled for . offtopic45vn.gifalien.gif

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01/14/2013 Filed I-129f

07/31/2013 I-129f NOA2

11/04/2013 Visa Received

11/21/2013 POE: Honolulu .. Aloha!

01/27/2014 Wedding day! (L)

03/11/2014 Filed I-485, I-131 and I-765

05/31/2014 EAD/AP card received

06/27/2014 Green card received

05/12/2016 Filed I-751

05/25/2016 Check cashed

05/26/2016 NOA (Dated 05/16) Received

06/20/2016 Biometric Appointment

05/07/2017 10-year Green card received

N-400

07/02/2018 Filed N-400 online

07/24/2018 Biometric Appointment

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Another non-responsive post removed and one member thread banned.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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I don't know how these 2 posts can lead to anything constructive to the OP's aim, which is to help his friend. Assumptions like your "what ifs" and "most likely the case" are totally uncalled for . offtopic45vn.gifalien.gif

problem is that there is not much he can do now....except play wait and see what she does. So all anyone can do to help is play the hypotheticals game. If X happens then Y = consequence. That way, he can at least mentally prepare for whatever may happen.

I mean, can u think of anything proactive that Mr. bob can do?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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As she has left and is apparently not returning all this inaccurate pontification as to what constitutes abandonment is irrelevant.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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problem is that there is not much he can do now....except play wait and see what she does. So all anyone can do to help is play the hypotheticals game. If X happens then Y = consequence. That way, he can at least mentally prepare for whatever may happen.

I mean, can u think of anything proactive that Mr. bob can do?

Being proactive doesn't necessarily mean being creative in assumptions, Unknown Guest / Yojoe. Really, "shacked up with a new guy already"?!

OP is asking for Bob's legal obligations and how he can avoid them, if any. You are creating up so much drama from a simple question.

heart.gif After all, we're all just walking home ...heart.gif

:energy: N-400 in progess ...

 

 

01/14/2013 Filed I-129f

07/31/2013 I-129f NOA2

11/04/2013 Visa Received

11/21/2013 POE: Honolulu .. Aloha!

01/27/2014 Wedding day! (L)

03/11/2014 Filed I-485, I-131 and I-765

05/31/2014 EAD/AP card received

06/27/2014 Green card received

05/12/2016 Filed I-751

05/25/2016 Check cashed

05/26/2016 NOA (Dated 05/16) Received

06/20/2016 Biometric Appointment

05/07/2017 10-year Green card received

N-400

07/02/2018 Filed N-400 online

07/24/2018 Biometric Appointment

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