is this true? marriage with out k1

[amanda23 0]

Hi do to the trouble i was having i decided to go to the immigration office my self and speak with a lawyer and i did she was very nice and all but im having trouble believing what she said if its true or not so i will ask you guys.

my lawyer said i can get married with out the k1 visa and then file for a Adjustment of status im hoping thats the right one. but i said but cant we get in trouble for doing that won't that be visa fraud and she replied. if he not paying you for a green card and you to really love each other and can prove it you will be fine. if this all real and not fake their isnt a problem and she said to come back to her to file the paper work. i said what about visa fraud and she repeated this all to me again. and i looked online and searched and found what she had said that if you ca prove that ti was done out of love as cheesy as that sounds and you can prove it you will be fine. she also said first step would be to get married and then come see her again. she said are case is strong and a good one that their shouldn't be a problem being his is from the u.k. i wan't to know if we can do this and it turn out right... becuase i find a 10 year ban serious.... here is the link to the place i went too. also she said shes dealt with cases like mine and that her son was dealing with the same issue and they always turn out fine.

http://www.diiri.org/ its called dorcas international institute of RI i have friends and family who say they are the best.

[Inky 1,111]

That lawyer is telling you to commit visa fraud and saying you will be fine and it is OK to do it. It is not ok. You should not use this lawyer, she should be reported for this.

You can come visit in the USA and get married yes, but you have to go home after your visit is over and then file the I-130.

[amanda23 0]

isnt that for a relative?

Edited April 4, 2013 by amanda23

[UK-USA-K1 128]

The question here, is when you entered this country (I assume you are in the US now), did you intend to marry and/or stay here? If you answer yes to this question, or you are outside this country now and are wanting to immigrate here, then it is Visa Fraud. If you came here on a visa or through VWP and you did NOT intend to marry or to immigrate, and you then decide to marry, then you can get married and adjust status. But if you came here on a 90 day VWP and met and decided to marry in that short period, that will likely be cause for a lot of in depth looks at your relationship when the time comes

[amanda23 0]

The question here, is when you entered this country (I assume you are in the US now), did you intend to marry and/or stay here? If you answer yes to this question, or you are outside this country now and are wanting to immigrate here, then it is Visa Fraud. If you came here on a visa or through VWP and you did NOT intend to marry or to immigrate, and you then decide to marry, then you can get married and adjust status. But if you came here on a 90 day VWP and met and decided to marry in that short period, that will likely be cause for a lot of in depth looks at your relationship when the time comes

i am a u.s a citizen i was born in the u.s

[Golden Gate 530]

So, then your fiance, if he is not currently here, can't enter the U.S. with the intent to stay and adjust status, because that is fraud. He can come, get married, and go back home while you petition for a CR-1 Visa.

[Darnell 8,478]

Cheesy-filings are ok.

USCIS still says so. Whilst yer getting busy, go to a local USCIS office, ask the same question, let us know the answers given.

[amanda23 0]

my intent is to get married to him but the intent wasn't that we wanted him to become a citizen we just want to be able to be together live together work and ect (but we know that's not how it works you need to be a citizen to work and live in the u.s) we really don't care for the benefits. we want to marry for love not for the fact he gets to be a u.s citizen.. so i have no idea what you would call it. but i wan't to keep the K1 out of this topic because i already asked about that on here before i wan't to know more about this. im not trying to commit anything wrong and risk a 10 year band on him. i want to know if the state and law people with this can work with us instead of against u.s. because i know every case is different. like say we did do this and they looked at are case they may look at it different its happened before again i don't know what they say but if they find their was no meaning to intentional gain citizenship and it's for real again i don't know. i wan't the truth and different opinions on this matter. how they may look at this. but again i don't want to do it or attempt anything. and other suggestions that have to do with out having the k1 i don't mind hearing.

[amanda23 0]

Cheesy-filings are ok.

USCIS still says so. Whilst yer getting busy, go to a local USCIS office, ask the same question, let us know the answers given.

i will try because i don't wan't trouble. again this is what she stated and i thought it was to good to be true.

[UK-USA-K1 128]

i am a u.s a citizen i was born in the u.s

Sorry about that, just reverse everything I said for him then.

If he came here with the intent to stay or to marry you, then he would legally have to leave before his current visa expires. If he came here for a visit and you fall in love and decided to get married while he was here, THEN you could marry and adjust status.

Does that make sense?

[UK-USA-K1 128]

my intent is to get married to him but the intent wasn't that we wanted him to become a citizen we just want to be able to be together live together work and ect (but we know that's not how it works you need to be a citizen to work and live in the u.s) we really don't care for the benefits. we want to marry for love not for the fact he gets to be a u.s citizen.. so i have no idea what you would call it. but i wan't to keep the K1 out of this topic because i already asked about that on here before i wan't to know more about this. im not trying to commit anything wrong and risk a 10 year band on him. i want to know if the state and law people with this can work with us instead of against u.s. because i know every case is different. like say we did do this and they looked at are case they may look at it different its happened before again i don't know what they say but if they find their was no meaning to intentional gain citizenship and it's for real again i don't know. i wan't the truth and different opinions on this matter. how they may look at this. but again i don't want to do it or attempt anything. and other suggestions that have to do with out having the k1 i don't mind hearing.

He doesn't necessarily have to become a citizen. He still needs the proper papers to live and work here. People can marry and their partners never have to become citizens, they can just be LPR (Long term Permanent Resident). This is what you become with all this paperwork. It's MUCH further down the line for someone to actually gain citizenship.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

my intent is to get married to him but the intent wasn't that we wanted him to become a citizen we just want to be able to be together live together work and ect (but we know that's not how it works you need to be a citizen to work and live in the u.s) we really don't care for the benefits. He does NOT become a US citizen until many years into the process. When he gets a greencard he will be a legal permanent resident (LPR). You don't need to be citizen to work, you need only be legally able to work, such as work visa or an LPR for example.

we want to marry for love not for the fact he gets to be a u.s citizen.. so i have no idea what you would call it. That means your relationship is real, that's not the problem. the problem is if he is currently NOT in the US then he CANNOT enter with intent to remain. That is immigration fraud.

but i wan't to keep the K1 out of this topic because i already asked about that on here before i wan't to know more about this. Is he presently in the US with you?

im not trying to commit anything wrong and risk a 10 year band on him. It's not a 10 year ban, it's a lifetime ban for misrepresentation. There is a waiver but it's expensively and takes a long time

i want to know if the state and law people with this can work with us instead of against u.s. because i know every case is different. Fraud is fraud. You are not special. If he is in the US, we can direct you where to go to file for a greencard, if he is not in the US then we cannot advise you on how to commit immigration fraud. It is against the VJ TOS.

like say we did do this and they looked at are case they may look at it different its happened before again i don't know what they say but if they find their was no meaning to intentional gain citizenship and it's for real again i don't know. Again, it's not about your relationship being real or not, it's about whether he entered with intent or not, that's what we're talking about. Your relationship matters no matter whether you file with him presently in the US, or via a K1/CR-1 visa.

i wan't the truth and different opinions on this matter. how they may look at this. but again i don't want to do it or attempt anything. and other suggestions that have to do with out having the k1 i don't mind hearing.

I'll be honest, reading the above was EXTREMELY hard for me... the lack of punctuation was painful so I had to edit to make it more readable.

Responses in red above.

Again, the most important factor right now is where is your fiance/bf right now? In the US or UK?

Edited April 4, 2013 by Vanessa&Tony

[amanda23 0]

to make are story short we never met in person at first we just chated online then we decided to meet to see what would happen and when we met the first time we really fell in love we have taken the time before this to get to know each other and we found we did have something their and we felt love. then we said we want to get married to be with each other all the time we wan't to make something out of are lives work as a team you know.. so i don't know if we can marry and do the adjustment of status.

[Darnell 8,478]

why not try ? is do-able. maybe..

[VanessaTony 3,567]

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Edited April 4, 2013 by Vanessa&Tony