k1 fiance visa

[adeel55 0]

hi...i am new here........my fiance has submitted 129f petition on 02.08.2012...and my petition is accepted..and is processing....but we never met in person..when my fiance write a cover letter..then she wrote that in our religion oth muslim and christian did not allow to meet before marry...i ant to ask u that will they approved me or nott....i am very thankful to u.

[SelinaWill 5]

Im Not sure.i only know that usually you have to proof that you have met before...don't know if it works with the religion reason because i would think that's not a reason for not meeting in person.

[kzielu 1,149]

No, you will not be approved. You will have to submit way more proof than just write something in a cover letter.

[aaron2020 11,651]

hi...i am new here........my fiance has submitted 129f petition on 02.08.2012...and my petition is accepted..and is processing....but we never met in person..when my fiance write a cover letter..then she wrote that in our religion oth muslim and christian did not allow to meet before marry...i ant to ask u that will they approved me or nott....i am very thankful to u.

The petition will be denied. The biggest requirement of the I-129f is that the two of you must have met in the last 2 years.

No Christian church law prohibits meeting before marriage.

It doesn't make sense that both Islam and Christian rules prevents you and your fiance from meeting while it is okay in Pakistan for a Christian to marry a Muslim???

[adeel55 0]

The petition will be denied. The biggest requirement of the I-129f is that the two of you must have met in the last 2 years.

No Christian church law prohibits meeting before marriage.

It doesn't make sense that both Islam and Christian rules prevents you and your fiance from meeting while it is okay in Pakistan for a Christian to marry a Muslim???

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if uscis approved my visa and also nvc approved.......then my question is ..us embassy will give me visa or not?

[NY_BX 397]

USCIS did NOT approve your visa. USCIS approved your fiance's petition. Your visa will be denied. It is untrue that you can't meet due to religious differences. If you're christian, you can meet anyone prior to marriage, given some exceptions.

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

if uscis approved my visa and also nvc approved.......then my question is ..us embassy will give me visa or not?

First of all - you posted in the wrong sub-forum (CR-1/IR-1). This should have been posted in K-1. If USCIS and NVC also approved your petition (not visa) that may or may not sway the embassy's decision to grant the visa. I am not aware of customs in Pakistan for Muslims that prohibit even meeting each other before marriage but I suppose in rural areas it's possible. For Christians this is certainly not true. In Yemen many K-1 visa applicants have tried to get visa approval without the meeting requirement but they are usually denied in the end since the embassy knows the culture well and knows that even though it's a strict and traditional society that meetings between a betrothed couple are allowed with a chaperone. If the same is true for your culture for sure the embassy is aware of it and they will deny the visa application.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Sarah and Adnan

[IT_1 0]

Adeel all above reply are very true that Islamic and christain rules not prohibt anyone no to meet / discuss about their future marrige etc.. In Islam rules are that both Man and woman can decide their future..so I agreed what other saying...even USCIS know that...

[Mufmer 24]

U WILL BE DENIED, EVEN USCIS WILL NOT APPROVE U, BCOZ THEERE ARE SO MANY EXAMPLES EVEN IN UR COUNTRY PAKISTAN ITS NOT THE REASON U CANT MEET, MANY USC CAME FOR THEIR LOVED ONES, SO DONT WASTE UR TIME N MONEY TOO, IF ITS TRUE BASED RELATION.

[aaron2020 11,651]

The petition will be denied. The biggest requirement of the I-129f is that the two of you must have met in the last 2 years.

No Christian church law prohibits meeting before marriage.

It doesn't make sense that both Islam and Christian rules prevents you and your fiance from meeting while it is okay in Pakistan for a Christian to marry a Muslim???

if uscis approved my visa and also nvc approved.......then my question is ..us embassy will give me visa or not?

USCIS does not have the power to approve visas. USCIS approves the I-129f that the petitioner is a US citizen who can file for a foreign fiance. That is all.

The NVC does not have the power to approve visas. The NVC collects the paperwork. The NVC makes sure that all the paperwork meets the basic requirements to send to the US Embassy. That is all.

The US Embassy/Consulate is the ONLY agency in the process that can grant a visa. The US Embassy makes the decision.

Can you please answer my questions?

What Christian church law prohibits you from meeting your fiance? If you can break the taboo of a Christian marrying a Muslim, then why can't you break the taboo about meeting before marriage?

Very strange that his family and your family can break the big rule about marrying outside your faiths but not the little one about meeting face-to-face before marriage.

Many Muslims go to Pakistan to meet face-to-face before petitioning their fiances, so it is done.

Your situation seems very strange.

Edited December 14, 2012 by aaron2020

[NY_BX 397]

USCIS does not have the power to approve visas. USCIS approves the I-129f that the petitioner is a US citizen who can file for a foreign fiance. That is all.

The NVC does not have the power to approve visas. The NVC collects the paperwork. The NVC makes sure that all the paperwork meets the basic requirements to send to the US Embassy. That is all.

The US Embassy/Consulate is the ONLY agency in the process that can grant a visa. The US Embassy makes the decision.

Can you please answer my questions?

What Christian church law prohibits you from meeting your fiance? If you can break the taboo of a Christian marrying a Muslim, then why can't you break the taboo about meeting before marriage?

Very strange that his family and your family can break the big rule about marrying outside your faiths but not the little one about meeting face-to-face before marriage.

Many Muslims go to Pakistan to meet face-to-face before petitioning their fiances, so it is done.

Your situation seems very strange.

If it strange enough for us, wonder what a CO will say. The fiance is really throwing away a lot of money in this journey.

[NikLR 13,227]

Your I-129F petition will be denied at the USCIS stage. It will never reach the NVC. It will never go to the embassy. You have to have met in the last 2 years unless there is extenuating circumstances but you do not qualify for those. Meeting is a requirement of the petition. Also the USCIS will NOT accept proxy marriages so do not try to get married by proxy and then do an I-130 petition either. An NOA1 does not mean anything besides that the USCIS received your package, your money and will review your case. It will be denied, I guarantee you.

http://www.uscis.gov...000082ca60aRCRD

USCIS makes it very clear.

Eligibility Requirements

If you petition for a fiancé(e) visa, you must show that:

• You (the petitioner) are a U.S. citizen.
• You intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e) entering the United States.
• You and your fiancé(e) are both free to marry and any previous marriages must have been legally terminated by divorce, death, or annulment.
• You met each other, in person, at least once within 2 years of filing your petition. There are two exceptions that require a waiver:
  1. If the requirement to meet would violate strict and long-established customs of your or your fiancé(e)'s foreign culture or social practice. (yours does not)
  2. If you prove that the requirement to meet would result in extreme hardship to you. (EXTREME) http://www.merriam-w...tionary/extreme

I suggest you and your fiancee meet. It settles that one requirement that you need to have. You do not need to meet in Pakistan or in the USA. Maybe a third country would be better for you two. I hope you guys can get it figured out if you truly intend to be with each other for the rest of your lives.

**edited for spelling**

Edited December 14, 2012 by NikiR

[adeel55 0]

i aam not saying that islam and christian does not alow to meet before marry....my fiance told me she cannot come....her father is ill and also she live alone...and so many reason......but guys tell mee if my petition approve and the time of interview she is with me.then

[sn530 27]

i aam not saying that islam and christian does not alow to meet before marry....my fiance told me she cannot come....her father is ill and also she live alone...and so many reason......but guys tell mee if my petition approve and the time of interview she is with me.then

Now we are starting to beat a dead horse with a stick!

Adeel sorry to tell you but that is one of the requirements, regardless of your conditions be it religious, financial or Health Related you will have to show some sort of proof that you have met each other physically meaning pictures and proof that you are engaged!

Now that you have gotten past the easy part the difficult part is that they will do the investigation on what you have said to be it to be true! It might be advisable that you familiarize your self with the term "Administrative Process" its something that majority of the Pakistani Men are placed in if they are the Beneficiary. Please review the other threads started in the "portal" tab it will take you to the Pakistani Portal.

[NY_BX 397]

i aam not saying that islam and christian does not alow to meet before marry....my fiance told me she cannot come....her father is ill and also she live alone...and so many reason......but guys tell mee if my petition approve and the time of interview she is with me.then

So, here's a problem, your fiance already lied in her petition claiming due to religious beliefs you can't meet. Now you say you could meet but for her own personal reasons she can't travel. That's not an excuse. Your petition will be denied. You will not even have an interview. You MUST met BEFORE she even sends a petition and you MUST prove you met. It goes within the petition.

What did she send out? If she didn't send anything else, but money, forms and a cover letter the petition will be denied and she will lose all the money.

Edited December 14, 2012 by NY_BX