Fiance visa denied

[mx65 0]

Nothing was written in her passport I will have to ask about signing any papers

[Shiobhan 235]

Y is so many American men trying to marry women from certain countries especially the Phillipines/ are the Phillipines men in great demand abroad too I am just wondering. I know the Phillipino nurses are the worlds best I have been hospitalized 3 times and taken care care of by them and I must say they are real nurturers and care-takers, very good ppl in the medical field, no doubt

they seem like easy push-overs but they are not from reading here, so is this some kind of sensual/nurturing fantasy these men

here go seek in the Phillipines

[Bumbero 130]

Y is so many American men trying to marry women from certain countries especially the Phillipines/ are the Phillipines men in great demand abroad too I am just wondering. I know the Phillipino nurses are the worlds best I have been hospitalized 3 times and taken care care of by them and I must say they are real nurturers and care-takers, very good ppl in the medical field, no doubt

they seem like easy push-overs but they are not from reading here, so is this some kind of sensual/nurturing fantasy these men

here go seek in the Phillipines

That's a great question to start another topic on!

[Bophany 2]

Y is so many American men trying to marry women from certain countries especially the Phillipines/ are the Phillipines men in great demand abroad too I am just wondering. I know the Phillipino nurses are the worlds best I have been hospitalized 3 times and taken care care of by them and I must say they are real nurturers and care-takers, very good ppl in the medical field, no doubt

they seem like easy push-overs but they are not from reading here, so is this some kind of sensual/nurturing fantasy these men

here go seek in the Phillipines

Great question,,as what you said the taking care part..Try to mingle more them and u will know how filipinos so great...

[SteveKarlaMayer 21]

Denied for prostitution. Misunderstanding during interview. What can be done.

Sounds that the embassy had done a wide background check about your fiance. Get a GOOD lawyer to handle this case. If it was just a misunderstanding, the lawyer could address it.

God bless with your entire process, soon.

[Thatgirl2 21]

I appreciate all of the response so far. Okay let me try to add some history here so maybe I can get some suggestions and some help rather than just criticisms. We met 6 months ago and we talk almost everyday morning noon and night. She has a married sister living in the US for the past 3 years who I also talk with on a regular basis. Also spoke to her husband who met the entire family. The both assure me she is a good girl and comes from a good family. The subject never came up until recently when we began getting real serious with each other. She told me about being denied a fiance visa on Dec 14, 2011 with another man. She emailed me the documents showing the reason for denial and when I saw that I was shocked. She is also very upset to be considered a prostitute when she has never been involved in that kind of work and has not worked in any bars. She works in an internet cafe. She is from Samar but now living in Angeles City. I think the interviewer already believes she is working in a bar just because she lives in Sin City. So at the end of the interview he began to ask her about her work and kept on insisting that she works in the bars as a prostitute even though she kept on denying it until she says he started to talk very loud accusing her and she became very scared and nervous and said yes just to end the interview. i have yet to visit her in the Philippines and I have not applied for any sort of visa. I am thinking to marry her there and try a spousal visa. I only sent her money for her birthday so she could buy a gift and have a cake and some foods for her friends and relatives. I attended the party myself via web cam. Sorry this is so long

Here is the thing,Angeles might be the sin city, but the COs are not naive. Is not like uscis and department of homeland security mass train a group of officers and send them off to different countries. Each consulate has officers who are aware of the norms and cultural differences. So don't be dead set in justifying denial with the idea that the CO couldn't tell the difference between an Internet cafe and a bar or that they think everyone from Angeles is a prostitute .

[Enigma11561 336]

Although you have talked to this woman, her family and so forth, you have never met her in person. It has been nothing but talk. You really do not have any kind of real relationship. And now you are facing some severe immigration issues which may not be overcome. I would stop trying to be the "I will save you,I am your hero, type of guy" and find some one else who does not have all this baggage. There are thousands of decent women over there who would love to find a nice guy like you. Maybe it's time to just move on?

[TnJ 131]

Y is so many American men trying to marry women from certain countries especially the Phillipines/ are the Phillipines men in great demand abroad too I am just wondering. I know the Phillipino nurses are the worlds best I have been hospitalized 3 times and taken care care of by them and I must say they are real nurturers and care-takers, very good ppl in the medical field, no doubt

they seem like easy push-overs but they are not from reading here, so is this some kind of sensual/nurturing fantasy these men

here go seek in the Phillipines

You tell me. Is it so much of a fantasy now to look for this sensual/nurturing characteristic in a woman's nature that we have to look to one particular culture? I don't think so, and I don't see this quality being so far fetched when wanted from a woman that it would be considered a fantasy. Sad to think about that being the case.

[rade2rising 205]

well you have gotten best advise so far which is to get a lawyer. beyond that you would have to move to philippines to be with her...with that said I think its good idea to visit at least once and spend some time together and see if you like the place and of course your girl too

[LSnBigBear 61]

Here is the thing,Angeles might be the sin city, but the COs are not naive. Is not like uscis and department of homeland security mass train a group of officers and send them off to different countries. Each consulate has officers who are aware of the norms and cultural differences. So don't be dead set in justifying denial with the idea that the CO couldn't tell the difference between an Internet cafe and a bar or that they think everyone from Angeles is a prostitute .

I agree here and want to add why would your fiancee move from Samar to Angeles to work at an internet cafe. I lived and worked in the Philippines and yes visited Angeles City. And although Angeles has a nice mall and wonderful legitimate places of work something caused her to get talked down to at the in interview. If in read your response correctly you have yet to meet her in person? If so this is why she was rejected for starters. My suggestion as others posted. Go meet her, keep your radar up as to Her persona etc. If all is well then take the 10 business days to file papers and marry her there. Then do the K3. I would consult an immigration Attorney first. But be open and honest and do not hold anything back. Good luck

Edited December 8, 2012 by LSnBigBear

[issha2lynden 77]

I am from Samar and it is a small town. You might want to message me and I can do a lil background check lol, be honest with you, if it's from Samar and moved to Olongapo to work? hmmmmmmmm, sounds sketchy. Olongapo is well known for prostitution. It is where Samar girls go to work as prostitutes. None of her family will tell you the truth. Be very wary. Enough with this USER's story.

Edited December 8, 2012 by issha2lynden

[issha2lynden 77]

I'm sorry Samar is an Island and I am from one of it's small town. Let me give you a little background. A decent or educated girl from Samar would not move to Olongapo for a job. I would say those women who do it are really from impoverished family and needs survival. Net cafe in the Philippines now a days holds on line prostitution. I am not 100% positive she is but highly likely. There, just my honest opinion. Hope you find the right woman OP.

[mx65 0]

I'm sorry Samar is an Island and I am from one of it's small town. Let me give you a little background. A decent or educated girl from Samar would not move to Olongapo for a job. I would say those women who do it are really from impoverished family and needs survival. Net cafe in the Philippines now a days holds on line prostitution. I am not 100% positive she is but highly likely. There, just my honest opinion. Hope you find the right woman OP.

how do i message you?

[rlogan 2,036]

Just so you are aware, It is illegal to petition a person that was or is a prostitute. I believe everyone can change but the USICS has to protect both the USA and the fiancee due to "Human Trafficking"

This is a perfect example of why the law is so stupid. There isn't any logic here on how disallowing this marriage prevents "human trafficking". What it actually does is eliminate a means of impoverished women to escape prostitution by getting married and immigrating.

Look too how people are claiming pornography over the internet is prostitution. Hogwash. Playboy centerfolds are not prostitutes. They are not only highly paid in this country, but prized as "trophy" wives. Same thing for all the soft porn superstars like Victoria Secrets models, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and so on. Somehow that transparent micro-thin layer of cotton hiding nothing as a practical matter makes them angels whereas the poor Filipina doing the same thing is a filthy animal. What is really going on is bigotry. Poor brown colored people cannot do what the rich white girl can do.

Although it is a tragedy, this girl made a big mistake by not telling the OP until recently. You do not have the right to conceal such a major issue and get the person really deeply involved in the relationship before this little "Oh, by the way I was already denied entry" revelation. This is a lie by omission, and you were lied to by the other people who concealed this as well.

This is a pretty cruel way to treat people. Think about how you felt when you discovered this. All of them knew what it would put you through, but they did it anyway. Why? Because they wanted to get you hooked first so that you would feel guilty for leaving her. This guilt-trip was consciously thought through by all of them. It demonstrates they do not respect you. The stupid little dupe who is not in on the secret everyone else knows until... "surprise!" So let me guess - she cried and showed all kinds of emotion when discussing this with you, right? Crocodile tears. Part of the design to manipulate you emotionally. That is also cruel - make you feel bad for her lying to you!

But if she (and they) already did this to you now, then they have already proven what they are capable of in the future. I would prefer meeting a prostitute that was honest with me up front and proved she isn't going to lie to me. I'd say forget about this one, and explain to her why. She lied about something too important. Next guy she meets she's got to be honest from the beginning and let that guy enter into the relationship with a problem, but not a problem of dishonesty.

Edited December 8, 2012 by rlogan

[Artisan 138]

Somehow that transparent micro-thin layer of cotton hiding nothing as a practical matter makes them angels whereas the poor Filipina doing the same thing is a filthy animal. What is really going on is bigotry. Poor brown colored people cannot do what the rich white girl can do.

This is complete BS. A perfect model of Aryan beauty that works as a fully legal and tax paying prostitute or madam in Germany or the Netherlands is prevented from immigrating to the US just the same as a bar girl from Thailand or the Philippines. Just because you hold a different moral standard doesn't mean the US government should follow the same Devil down the primrose path. Prostitution is no more a valid method to avoid poverty than dealing drugs or running numbers. Our society, as a whole, considers all of these so called 'victimless crimes' as morally bankrupt activities and bars anyone guilty of them from entering the country.