Petitioner/Sponsor (USC) has adequate income still CO wants Joint Sponsor

[pushbrk 12,113]

Questions, no answers, just a mega chip on the shoulder that will get him nowhere.

Correct! Once he's through venting, maybe we can help. Not sure whether he just wants to complain or is actually looking for help getting his wife to the USA.

[bigdog 376]

All good ideas, play the game, give them what ever to get done, good luck. Unfortunately honest people suffer because of the few to try and scam the system. You and all of us to are upfront do it right sometimes have to put up with extra stuff to get it done, hang in there.

[Kehinde 45]

You meet the requirement with gross income, not net income.

The situation stinks but the Consulate has the last say on the public charge issue, not NVC. If you have a joint sponsor available, just go ahead and submit their affidavit. If not, I would contact the Senior US Senator representing your State, for assistance in this matter. Sounds like they are just making you jump through extra hoops because the doubt the relationship.

If his gross income $24,000 the net shouldn't matter cos they are asking for your gross amt. The CO can't over rule the poverty guide lines. I would send an email to the SCOP-ICE and report this abuse. If you got the name of the interviewer.

Edited May 19, 2012 by Olami

[maiortum 6]

All good ideas, play the game, give them what ever to get done, good luck. Unfortunately honest people suffer because of the few to try and scam the system. You and all of us to are upfront do it right sometimes have to put up with extra stuff to get it done, hang in there.

Bigdog - my wife who is the real victim in this situation thanks you and I thank you for not berating me and or her as some have done in this forum. To state factual situation is being termed "venting" and "mega chip". Well that is why I served in the US armed forces to protect the "Freedom" of those who speak in this forum. My wife was very sad to see some of the other comments and then she cried when she read your heart warming encouragement to her. So both thank you.

[pushbrk 12,113]

If his gross income $24,000 the net shouldn't matter cos they are asking for your gross amt. The CO can't over rule the poverty guide lines. I would send an email to the SCOP-ICE and report this abuse. If you got the name of the interviewer.

The CO is making a judgment call. NOT meeting the minimum assures denial but meeting the minimum DOES NOT assure success. What's the point of saying "can't" about something already done. Obviously, if it's done, it CAN be done.

[pushbrk 12,113]

Bigdog - my wife who is the real victim in this situation thanks you and I thank you for not berating me and or her as some have done in this forum. To state factual situation is being termed "venting" and "mega chip". Well that is why I served in the US armed forces to protect the "Freedom" of those who speak in this forum. My wife was very sad to see some of the other comments and then she cried when she read your heart warming encouragement to her. So both thank you.

You have the right to vent and have a chip on your shoulder. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. However, this forum is about helping you get together in the USA and neither venting or carrying on with a chip on your shoulder is going to directly help you. Complying with the request or if not possible, getting assistance from a Senator are things that actually help. Otherwise, though free to do so here, you're just wasting energy.

That you fought to help preserve our freedoms, does not exempt you from us exercising them. You are not being berated. We're trying to get your attention, so you'll actually do something to help yourself.

[MrsNotBonJovi 18]

Bigdog - my wife who is the real victim in this situation thanks you and I thank you for not berating me and or her as some have done in this forum. To state factual situation is being termed "venting" and "mega chip". Well that is why I served in the US armed forces to protect the "Freedom" of those who speak in this forum. My wife was very sad to see some of the other comments and then she cried when she read your heart warming encouragement to her. So both thank you.

I don't mean to offend you, but were you at the interview along with your wife? It does seem

highly intrusive if the CO actually said things like 'disabled cripple' and asked stuff like why your 'attractive' wife wanted to marry a disabled cripple, when she could have easily married on dowry. Granted that COs are known to be aggressive in trying to weed out falsity, but they also receive cultural sensitivity training and I have a tough time believing this, especially given that you are a war veteran.

Seems to me they were actually doubting the bonafides and motives behind your marriage, rather than its financial foundations. All will depend on what answers your wife gave. Good luck!

Edited May 19, 2012 by MrsNotBonJovi

[Boiler 43,436]

That is how I read it, after removing the gloss.

[AmyWrites 593]

CO's are aggressive and many times even rude just because it's their job to weed out fraud.

Get a co-sponsor and this will end.

What he asked your wife is terrible, but not uncommon in this type of thing.

[Kelly C 16]

Good Luck to you and yours.

[maiortum 6]

She walks in to the Consulate in Mumbai, India and a pre-screener (Indian guy) calls her. Who is calling you? What is his name? checks something and says "Where is your Joint Sponsor letter?" She was stunned? We had gone over the whole process and every document tooth and nail so the income at $24,288 was well over the published I-864p requirement of 18,912. Also it is not a job income that could be lost tomorrow. It is a Federal Veteran Administration Pension. Anyway he chides her for not marrying early and waiting so long and then says "you married this disabled cripple?" She was in tears but kept calm. Now just a flashback - during USCIS and NVC we got not a single objection or RFE. In fact they expedited the case as my VA doctors had written and the Senator requested it and they got it done pretty quick.

Now she is waiting an American gal called her asked for some photos which were not wedding photos. My wife had all her papers well organized and she pulled them out and she gave them to her. This woman told her to sit and she gave the photos to another Indian lady that my wife could see thru the glass. She waited and waited and finally she is called to a room (#18) and there are two Indian women behind the glass now. Only one speaks to her - the other is just standing to the side and just staring at my wife. The questioning starts. Made a big deal out of the fact that no one from my family came to the church wedding in Mumbai, India. Well my parents are deceased and I am the only child of my parents. Then tell us about his disabilities and she told them. Oh so he is not in a wheelchair? Oh he walks with a cane. PTSD they don't want to go there. Harass some more about the fact that she speaks Hindi, English and a little Tullu. I speak English and Hindi and when I was in the war I picked up a little Tagalog. How can he communicate with you if he does not speak Tullu? She calmly replied we speak in English and HIndi as needed.Then back to the American lady. She hands my wife the 221g which the Indian guy had already filled out. My wife asked her why? And the put down tone of voice "yes dear you cannot manage on his income". Get a Joint Sponsor. My wife was devastated as we done everything as per US law. She tried to tell her that my husband has social security income starting soon and we own our condo free and clear but she did not want to hear anything further.

So my senator has the whole story and hopefully they are in touch with the State department. In the meantime, I am getting a joint sponsor. But I do not trust them now. They abused the innocent wife of a US veteran with malice and forethought.

Thanks for listening and thanks for your support,

[Boiler 43,436]

So you were not there?

[maiortum 6]

So you were not there?

They do not allow husbands or wives inside. I waited outside.

[MrsNotBonJovi 18]

They do not allow husbands or wives inside. I waited outside.

I am sorry for having to tell you this, but I find a lot in this version of events that I have difficulty taking at face value. No offence meant to you, but 'targeted malice' and 'abuse', this certainly does not seem to be. If you were not present during the interview, you may have to ask your wife to recount the sequence of events once again. There is definitely another side to this story, me thinks.

[MrsNotBonJovi 18]

I am sorry for having to tell you this, but I find a lot in this version of events that I have difficulty taking at face value. No offence meant to you, but 'targeted malice' and 'abuse', this certainly does not seem to be. If you were not present during the interview, you may have to ask your wife to recount the sequence of events once again. There is definitely another side to this story, me thinks.

Edited May 20, 2012 by MrsNotBonJovi