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Lawyer or Not  

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  1. 1. Is it better to have a lawyer or not?

    • Yes
      2
    • No
      29
    • Doesn't matter
      8
  2. 2. Does a lawyer speed up the process wait time?

    • Yes
      3
    • No
      33
    • Doesn't matter
      3
  3. 3. We used a lawyer

    • We passed
      8
    • We failed
      1
    • We didn't use a lawyer and passed under 6 months
      20
    • We didn't use a lawyer and passed over 6 months
      10
    • We didn't use a lawyer and failed
      0


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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first a lot depends on the country of the party outside US

and lawyer can not speed it up

I did get lawyer because of my husband's cnoutry.

and i think advise from attorney is always better than not. After all, they do this daily and know the ins and outs. After all, what do we know about the process. And i say that as a paralegal but i worked for ligator not immigration attorney. the rules of process change constently. You must have the best advise to go thru this process.

Is it better to have a lawyer or not?

Does a lawyer speed up the process?

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Since the 3rd question does not apply to me and I can't record my opinions in the other 2 questions without answering the 3rd, I'll inject my two cents this way:

#1:

Doesn't matter. What's better is usually in the eye of the beholder and in some cases, a lawyer may be necessary.

#2:

No


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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Ive read of people getting lawyers, unfortunatly they end up at VJ because the lawyers messed up .. hence this is how I hear about lawyers.

Im no expert, but I did alot of reading, alot alot of reading. Alot of learning, alot of questions. Not only are the people here knowledgable, but they are also very quick to respond. The process can seem overwhelming, it feels like a ton of preperation and filing. But if you just tackle a little here and a little there, you guys will get through it. And the people here are always willing to help.

I wouldnt get one, I didnt get one, and we did ok even though there are some issues with us that others here have called a "red flag" yet we never had a problem.


~~~ Hes the chance Im taking ~~~

April 2007 - Met online

Oct. 2008 - He came to Canada to meet me

Dec 25 2009 officially engaged

March 2010 - sent off I-129F

March 27 2010 - Vermont receives package :)

April 3 2010 - Informed through mail that cheque is cashed NOA1

May 28 2010 - RFE notification ( yeah Im online checking alot >.< )

June 5 2010 - RFE hardcopy received

June 18 2010 - RFE returned ( had done it June 7 - but USPS returned grrrr )

--- case says we should hear from them in 60 days from June 18 ---

June 23 - Touched

Aug4 - Email notification of NoA2 :)

Aug. 10 - NOA2 Hardcopy received

Sept. 13 - Faxed off Package 3

Sept 14 - Interview notification set for Oct. 5

Oct. 5 2010 Interview Passed

March 17 2011 POE Canadian/US border

April 1 2011 Marriage

Mailed AOS June 1

Chicago Lockbox confirms delivery June 3

Check cashed through bank - notification June 9

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Filed: Country: China
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I would have to say that getting a US immigration attorney for a standard case is a waste of money and time, but, getting a foreign based immigration attorney who is familiar with that country and consulate and available to help your spouse prepare and gather all the information is, in many cases, worth the extra expense. But as with all things, be careful who you get. It is too easy for some shmoo off the street to say they are versed in the process and can help you and you only find out later that they aren't worth their salt. I think this is what happens with a lot of US attorneys.

In our case, we used an attorney in China and he was not only much more affordable, but a god send for helping us get everything together through the process. But we never took anything for granted and double and triple checked everything against the government websites and with knowledgable people here on VJ.


Service Center : California Service Center
Consulate : Guangzhou, China
Marriage (if applicable): 2010-04-26
I-130 Sent : 2010-06-01
I-130 NOA1 : 2010-06-08
I-130 RFE : 2010-11-05
I-130 RFE Sent : 2010-11-06
I-130 Approved : 2010-11-10
NVC Received CaseFile: 2010-11-16
NVC Casefile Number Issued: 2010-11-22
Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2010-11-23
OPTIN EMAIL SENT TO NVC: 2010-11-23
OPTIN ACCEPTED by NVC: 2010-12-14
Pay I-864 Bill 2010-11-23
Receive I-864 Package : 2010-11-23
Return Completed I-864 : 2011-03-30
Return Completed DS-3032 : 2010-11-23
Receive IV Bill : 2010-12-17
Pay IV Bill : 2011-03-16
AOS CoverSheets Generated: 2010-11-27
IV Fee Bill marked as PAID: 2011-03-18
IV CoverSheets Generated: 2011-03-18
IV email packet sent: 2011-04-4
NVC reports 'Case Completed': 2011-5-2
'Sign in Fail' at the Online Payment Portal: 2011-5-2
Final Review Started at NVC: 2011-5-2
Final Review Completed at NVC: ????
Interview Date Set: 2011-5-5
Appointment Letter Received via Email: 2011-5-6
Interview Date: 2011-6-1
Approved!!!!!

I-751 Sent : 2013-07-02

I-751 Bio Appointment Date 2013-08-02

10 Year Green Card Approved!!!!!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Italy
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we did not used a lawyer, check timeline.


K1 VISA:

FILED:06\15\2010

NOA1 DATE:06\22\2010

RFE:none

NOA2 DATE:06\30\2010

INTERVIEW:09\15\2010

VISA IN HAND:09\20\2010

POE:12\12\2010

WEDDING:03\04\2011

CHECK TIMELINE FOR OTHER DETAILS.

AOS:

FILED:03\08\2011

NOA1 DATE: 03\11\2011

BIO:04\13\2011

I-485 TRANSFER:04\27\2011

APPROVED EAD:04\28\2011

APPROVED AP:04\28\2011

EAD"COMBO CARD" IN HAND: 05\06\2011

I-485 CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED: 05\31\2011

I-485 DECISION: 05\31\2011

I-485 APPROVED:05\31\2011

GREEN CARD IN HAND:06\04\2011

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Since the 3rd question does not apply to me and I can't record my opinions in the other 2 questions without answering the 3rd, I'll inject my two cents this way:

#1: Doesn't matter. What's better is usually in the eye of the beholder and in some cases, a lawyer may be necessary.

#2: No

Exactly the same here, si man. An initial consultation with a good lawyer can uncover some potential red flags, for example. Lawyers were invaluable to me after we got hosed by the consulate. We haven't used them during the petition/application process, however.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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we consulted a lawyer because we had several what could be considered "red flags" - willing to spend the extra money trying to be on the safe side. Our lawyer f$#*@ up so bad that we have now lost over a year with who knows how much longer to go, if we ever get approved. If you're able to do research and pay attention to detail you're better off not over-relying on some idiot with a law degree to whom you're just one of many cases on their desk. Just my personal opinion based on bad experience (and yes I am a little bitter!!)


2009/06/19 - 1st NOA 1 (I-129F)

2009/10/07 - NOA 2

2010/01/11 - interview; result - approved

2010/01/18 - received passport with visa in the mail

2010/02/05 - embassy calls and asked to return visa for a "correction"

2010/02/09 - fiance returns passport with visa to embassy

2010/03/09 - embassy tells us we are in "administrative review"

2010/09/07 - fiance receives passport back with canceled visa and letter; our petition has been returned to USCIS

2010/11/08 - 2nd NOA 1 (I-129F ROUND 2)

2011/04/19 - service request response - 6 months additional extensive background checks

2011/08/22 - 2nd NOA 2

2011/10/04 - interview

2011/10/20 - visa received

2011/11/04 - POE

2011/11/25 - legal marriage

2012/07/21 - wedding with family and friends!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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I think there's cases that need lawyers, like with criminal records... But for the most part I think they're a waste of money, and I honestly think they slow things down. As the lawyer gets the paperwork and then sends it on. That's just an extra step. I'd rather be in charge of my future, and the speed in which we file each step. That's just my opinion though.

I did all the paperwork myself, and haven't had a problem/RFE thus far. And our K-1 was one of the quickest I've seen on VJ.


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Rugby, England >> Harrisburg, PA.

Summer 2005 -- Met on Pokerstars.com

June 15th, 2006 -- Met in Person

Feb 1st, 2008 -- Filed I-129F

May 2nd, 2008 -- Visa Interview = Approved. (91days)

May 27th, 2008 -- Damian moves to America!

July 23rd - 30th, 2008 -- Damian's Mum Comes to the US for our wedding.

July 25th, 2008 -- Wedding Day!

March 16th, 2009 -- AOS Sent

May 8th, 2009 -- EAD & AP Approved (51days)

July 14th, 2009 -- AOS Approved!! (118days)

July 21st, 2009 -- Green Card Received (125days)

No RFEs the whole process :) All done myself.

December 4th - 30th, 2009 -- Visited England

April 8th - 30th, 2010 -- Damian's Brother visits us here in PA.

January 19th, 2010 -- Damian got his PA license.

December 10th - 19th, 2010 -- Visited England

September 16th - 30th, 2011 -- Damian's Parents came to visit us here in PA.

June 1st, 2011 -- Mailed ROC to Vermont.

February 21st, 2012 -- 10 Year Green Card Received

April 14th, 2012 -- N-400 Sent to Dallas Lockbox

November 26th, 2012 – Damian Became a US Citizen!!!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Italy
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how did you get so lucky to get approved so fast? military? work for them? gun point? or what? :whistle:

i do no work for them, i'm not military , nothing of all that you listed i think was just luck and prayers and also a very clear well done documentation with enough proof i think they just had no doubts about our relationship.


K1 VISA:

FILED:06\15\2010

NOA1 DATE:06\22\2010

RFE:none

NOA2 DATE:06\30\2010

INTERVIEW:09\15\2010

VISA IN HAND:09\20\2010

POE:12\12\2010

WEDDING:03\04\2011

CHECK TIMELINE FOR OTHER DETAILS.

AOS:

FILED:03\08\2011

NOA1 DATE: 03\11\2011

BIO:04\13\2011

I-485 TRANSFER:04\27\2011

APPROVED EAD:04\28\2011

APPROVED AP:04\28\2011

EAD"COMBO CARD" IN HAND: 05\06\2011

I-485 CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED: 05\31\2011

I-485 DECISION: 05\31\2011

I-485 APPROVED:05\31\2011

GREEN CARD IN HAND:06\04\2011

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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i do no work for them, i'm not military , nothing of all that you listed i think was just luck and prayers and also a very clear well done documentation with enough proof i think they just had no doubts about our relationship.

very lucky congrats :thumbs:

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IMO, you have way more than enough info in the guides; if you have money to burn, use a lawyer by all means.


2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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As long as the LORD's beside me, I don't care if this road ever ends.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Isle of Man
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Using a lawyer will slow you down.

Can you fill out a couple documents and write down your SS, DOB, Name, Address, etc.?

Can you make a copy or two of a passport and a birth certificate?

Can you include 1 or 2 itineraries as well as a few photos with dates on back?

Can you take a headshot of yourself and your fiancee and go to Wal-Greens to print them out in size 2x2?

I think you can complete these tasks faster than a lawyer!


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