Best, Worst, Most unexpected thing about FSU

[baron555 934]

My Alla exhibits none of these types of behaviors....maybe having a three year old around is the great equalizer?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My Alla exhibits none of these types of behaviors....maybe having a three year old around is the great equalizer?

Children have that affect, yes. I also think that if they were raised and received most, or all, of their education in the Soviet Union they have completely different personalities. Just a casual observation, I have no clinical data, strictly anecdotal.

[Neonred 3,446]

My Alla exhibits none of these types of behaviors....maybe having a three year old around is the great equalizer?

That's why we got a dog.

[slim 1,514]

if they were raised and received most, or all, of their education in the Soviet Union they have completely different personalities.

My wife did about half of hers in the Soviet Union. The other half was post-curtain lifting. Either way, I don't think it's necessarily an educational system thing since most of the other females I've spent significant time with don't act like they're four-years-old and throw tantrums.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My wife did about half of hers in the Soviet Union. The other half was post-curtain lifting. Either way, I don't think it's necessarily an educational system thing since most of the other females I've spent significant time with don't act like they're four-years-old and throw tantrums.

Maybe. The later education years they were in the Komsomol which did a lot of "training" in what their "duties" were. They also got to do community service like being trucked out to farms as slave labor to pick crops and basically ruin their manicures. They also waited in long lines for most of their food, etc.

I just think that someone that went to a strict school program, then to Komsomol meetings, the come home to find a note telling her to go stand in line for A (one) lemon...has little tolerance for whiners.

This is not to say that yonger people have not had this impressed on them,some have.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

That's why we got a dog.

[Brad and Vika 129]

There may be a point (somewhere above). Vika got most of her education post-Soviet, although she has memories of Soviet grade school. Ukraine changed alot after the breakup, and maybe that is why she adapted so easily.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

There may be a point (somewhere above). Vika got most of her education post-Soviet, although she has memories of Soviet grade school. Ukraine changed alot after the breakup, and maybe that is why she adapted so easily.

I am not sure school is so important as is the age they are when they finish it. There was a lot of pent up desire for "stuff" in the Soviet Union. But when markets first opened and at the same time the economy was in the dumper, a lot of people at the age of finishing school had been so long without these things that it was not so important to them to have them. Perhaps for the same reason I do not regard cell phones and internet as so indespensible as younger people. I am sure Pasha would go into convulsions and DIE if he did not have his cell phone in his hand for a few seconds. (he did not have a cell phone in Ukraine) Alla will leave hers on the kitchen table and forget all about it.

Just a theory. Then again it may be that children have more of an effect.

I think younger people grew up when these things were more available and there was more of a trend "me, me, me"

[slim 1,514]

I think younger people grew up when these things were more available and there was more of a trend "me, me, me"

My wife didn't have "stuff" growing up but she's definitely all about "me, me, me" now!

[ONA 133]

I might die if something happens to my cell, ipod or if i don't have internet access. I don't know if I'm all like "me, me, me", but at least I never heard anybody talking like that about me.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I might die if something happens to my cell, ipod or if i don't have internet access. I don't know if I'm all like "me, me, me", but at least I never heard anybody talking like that about me.

I did not intend to say if you are "connected" you are selfish. Just that younger people place a different level of importance on things.

Alla came home two days ago with bags full of stuff from a clearance sale at "Bon Ton". Coats for the boys, (retail $225 on sale for $25) a quilt for Pasha's bed, sweaters for three friends in Ukraine. Nothing for her. "I don't need anything" She will always put her family before what she wants.

[ONA 133]

Gary and Alla, still it's not like "you're young, you have everything -> you're selfish". It's more like "you're young, you don't have kids, so you can enjoy yourself for a while".

Spending, sometimes the last money on your friends is actually more common for young people.

[mckay76 11]

Gary and Alla, still it's not like "you're young, you have everything -> you're selfish". It's more like "you're young, you don't have kids, so you can enjoy yourself for a while".

Spending, sometimes the last money on your friends is actually more common for young people.

I think he was pointing out was that as you get older your priorities change. You'll see when you get older you won't want or do the same things anymore.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I think he was pointing out was that as you get older your priorities change. You'll see when you get older you won't want or do the same things anymore.

Well sort of. I think everyone's priorities change with age, not necessarily because of culture.

What I saw is that the qualities often cited as the reason that American men are attracted to FSU women (besides their inate hotness) is that they are more, "traditional" women. They enjoy the women's role in a marriage, care for their family, etc. That quality just seems to be a lot more prevelent and strong in women raised in the Soviet Union, and by that I mean grew up and became adults in the Soviet Union. Not women that were 3 when the Soviet Union ended.

Young women then didn't think about "I am young and have no kids I will enjoy myself for a while" They thought "I am 20 years old and have no kids. WHY? I want children!" Like a lot of women at that time, my MIL was not married, didn't want to get married, but she wanted a child so she just found a likely "donor" and he "donated" until she was pregnant and then "thank you, goodbye". Soviet sperm bank. No father listed on the birth certificate. She continued her position as a civil engineer and did her duty to the motherland.

While it was a heady thing for a guy in his mid-fourties at the time to have the opportunity with smoking hot 22 year olds that I did, they did not seem to show the vaunted traditonal FSU qualities. FWIW there are plenty of smokin' hot 40's in the FSU. But if you are a younger American man, they aren't going to be too interested in you. Now, if I met a 23 year old FSU chick I would ask her to take me home...and introduce me to her mother.

[ONA 133]

Young women then didn't think about "I am young and have no kids I will enjoy myself for a while" They thought "I am 20 years old and have no kids. WHY? I want children!" Like a lot of women at that time, my MIL was not married, didn't want to get married, but she wanted a child so she just found a likely "donor" and he "donated" until she was pregnant and then "thank you, goodbye". Soviet sperm bank. No father listed on the birth certificate. She continued her position as a civil engineer and did her duty to the motherland.

That's not the rule, that's an exception. You can't be 100% sure about something, having seen just one example, which is not even a norm actually. Since FSU women are more "traditional", as you noted, it's not quite acceptable to have children before you're married. It's frowned upon espesially by the older generations. That's why abortion was such a common thing when USSR still existed. Traditional family doesn't mean "I want kids, I don't want the father", traditional family is a complete family. That's one of the reasons why FSU women avoid divorse as long as they can - they want their kids to have the father.

Edited February 20, 2011 by ONA