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Originally me and my boyfriend were going to do the k-1 visa, but now I'm starting to think the cr-1 will be better since it is less money and he will be able to work right away. I have a question, it asks for evidence of a bonified marriage, we have never lived together so we don't have joint leases, property, or anything else it lists. Is this stuff really needed and could we get denied because we don't have any of that? Also, with the k1 visa the U.S citizen needs to make a certain amount of money, with the cr-1 is that the same? Also, can you use a co sponsor if needed?

Sorry for all the questions, I've spent months reading about k-1 visas, I haven't researched much about cr-1 yet.

Thanks


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September 7, 2010 - I-129F sent
September 18, 2010 - NOA1 hard copy received
February 3, 2011 - Approved
February 8, 2011 - NOA2 Hard copy received
May 30, 2011 - Medical
July 12, 2011 - Interview
August 31, 2011 Visa in hand
September 7, 2011 - POE
October 14, 2011 - Married!

Adjustment of Status
Sent - November 8, 2011
Delivered - November 9, 2011
NOA1 for all applications(email) - November 10,2011
NOA1 hard copy - November 17, 2011
Biometrics letter for December 13 - November 17, 2011
Walk in Biometrics November 25, 2011
RFE :( November 28, 2011
RFE response review - December 7. 2011
RFE#2 December 28, 2011
RFE response review - January 10, 2012
EAD Production - January 11, 2012
Case transferred - January 17, 2012
Green card in production - March 30, 2012

ROC

File date - March 24, 2014

Letter saying we need to be interviewed - November 2014

Interview and approved on December 09, 2014

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Originally me and my boyfriend were going to do the k-1 visa, but now I'm starting to think the cr-1 will be better since it is less money and he will be able to work right away. I have a question, it asks for evidence of a bonified marriage, we have never lived together so we don't have joint leases, property, or anything else it lists. Is this stuff really needed and could we get denied because we don't have any of that? Also, with the k1 visa the U.S citizen needs to make a certain amount of money, with the cr-1 is that the same? Also, can you use a co sponsor if needed?

Sorry for all the questions, I've spent months reading about k-1 visas, I haven't researched much about cr-1 yet.

Thanks

For CR-1 and filing as a newly wed couple all you need is the marriage certificate and maybe couple of pics from the wedding - that's it.

Yes, you can use the co-sponsor if needed. Main sponsor still fills out the I-864 with the tax returns and same for the co-sponsor.

Good luck on your visa journey, I'd say you're making the right switch in visa decision!


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3/3/2009 - Removal of conditions - sent off packet to CSC

3/5/2009 - I-751 received in CSC

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3/20/2009 - Biometrics notice received (no NOA1)

4/2/2009 - Biometrics

4/9/2009 - NOA1 date (first undelivered one is 3/5)

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3/26/2010 Early biometrics done at an ASC different from the one assigned to (Original BIO date was 4/15)

4/30/2010 Yellow letter received and info from USCIS mil line they are working on my interview letter (6/17 appt)

5/1/2010 Text and email interview letter sen

5/6/2010 Interview letter received - scheduled for 6/17/2010 at 10:05am

6/17/2010 Interview appointment - PASSED

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One thing to keep in mind is the current back-log at the Montreal (I think it's Montreal)consulate, which is the only consulate in Candada that's processing CR-1 visas.

Choosing a CR-1 instead of a K-1 could add some time to you waiting.

Just a heads up!


April 2007 : Met
07/28/07 : Officialy dating
06/07/09 : Engaged
09/04/09 : Married

10/06/09 : I-130 Sent
10/15/09 : NOA1
01/11/10 : Expedite Request Sent Through Congressman
01/14/10 : NOA2

01/22/10 : Got NVC casenumber
03/16/10 : Case Complete

05/04/10 : Medical
05/11/10 : Interview - APPROVED!!
05/14/10 : Passport w/ Visa recieved

05/29/10 : POE JFK
06/25/10 : Apply for SSN
06/29/10 : Received Welcome Letter
07/01/10 : Recieved SSN (33 days after POE)
07/07/10 : Greencard production ordered
07/13/10 : Second Welcome Letter recieved
07/15/10 : Green Card recieved (47 days after POE)

04/02/12 : ROC NOA1
05/24/12 : ROC Biometrics
12/19/12 : ROC Approval
12/24/12 : New GC recieved

3/18/16 : N-400 Application sent
3/25/16 : Text/Email confirmation NOA
4/22/16 : Biometrics Appt

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ya - the 'bonafide marriage evidence' is difficult to collect when yer first married, or if the spouses live apart.

There's 6 types of evidence that you can gather, as well, per the I-130 instructions .

Here's what I did, ages past - see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218775&st=0&p=3324240&hl=Rusticentry3324240 butkeep in mind, I went a bit overboard, as this casefile is going to Guangzhou, China, one of the top 'immigration visa fraud' sites in the world.

Remember though - to treat this documentation collection as a 'living document', as you'll be able to add to it, over time. Sure - start with initial submittal, then show it again on interview day, then again when doing Removal of Conditions.

The financial guidelines are referenced in the I-864W or I-864P document (can't remember which) .

re: co-sponser - sure ! absolutely ! can use !


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Vancouver handles K-1 visas for applicants west of the Manitoba/Ontario border. Montreal handles all the other fiance or spousal visas. Vancouver are quite quick. Montreal have a serveal month backlog between when you send in your Packet 3 forms and when you get your interview. If you are in Western Canada, switching from a K-1 to the CR-1 track will cost significantly less (no AOS fee, plus you can work right away when you enter the US) but will likely add 3-5 months of waiting time to get the visa.

The other issue is that the Cr-1 track has that enforced period of separation (exacerbated by Montreal's backlog delay) after you get married. For some people (my wife among them) being seperated from a spouse is much harder, and even that much less appealing than being forced to wait (for the K-1 visa approval) to be reunited and married.

That's the complete set of tradeoffs. You and your SO have to decide what you two want to have to deal with. Everybody's different.

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For CR-1 and filing as a newly wed couple all you need is the marriage certificate and maybe couple of pics from the wedding - that's it.

Yes, you can use the co-sponsor if needed. Main sponsor still fills out the I-864 with the tax returns and same for the co-sponsor.

Good luck on your visa journey, I'd say you're making the right switch in visa decision!

I second that! That is all I sent, and not even the pics...... But, I will say when I went for a "Infopass appt." the caseworker told me it would be a good idea to send a few pics.... but don't worry about the joint accounts and all that......

Good luck on your journey.


Engaged : 11/25/2009

Married : 02/12/2010

I-130 NOA 1: 03/21/2010

RFE : NONE

I-130 NOA 2 : 7/19/2010 (no touch's, no emails, no text notifications) Received Hard copy in mail 7/26 2010.

NVC Received : 8/02/2010

AOS Bill : 8/03/2010 ( Received Via Email after calling on 8/2/2010 )

Paid AOS Bill : 8/04/2010 ( Paid Invoice electronically )

AOS shown as paid : 8/05/2010

Mailed DS-3032 : 8/05/2010

Mailed I-864 pkg : 8/06/2010

NVC Receive i-864 : 8/09/2010

NVC Receive DS-3032 : 8/09/2010

IV Bill (available for pay): 8/20/2010

IV Bill Paid : 8/20/2010

IV Bill Shows Paid! : 8/23/2010 (just waitin for the docs from my wife now) should be here next week!

IV Package Sent Finally: 9/04/2010 (due to arrive 9/7)

Received checklist : 9/06/2010 (they are looking for the IV package) hmmm, ummm, I KNOW! So was I!

IV Package on AVR : 9/10/2010

Received Checklist 9/28/2010 (said PCC not in correct format)

Case Complete 10/13/2010 ( have not received replacement PCC from wife yet to send into NVC, How can this be?) I'm not complaining!

Interview 11/08/2010

PS As of 9/11/2010, USCIS website still not updated, shows NOA-1 date and... blah blah blah. don't count on them folks.

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I don't see it mentioned in the guide, but with the first package are you suppose to send proof of being in a relationship?[e-mails, chats, pictures]


I am the USC
September 7, 2010 - I-129F sent
September 18, 2010 - NOA1 hard copy received
February 3, 2011 - Approved
February 8, 2011 - NOA2 Hard copy received
May 30, 2011 - Medical
July 12, 2011 - Interview
August 31, 2011 Visa in hand
September 7, 2011 - POE
October 14, 2011 - Married!

Adjustment of Status
Sent - November 8, 2011
Delivered - November 9, 2011
NOA1 for all applications(email) - November 10,2011
NOA1 hard copy - November 17, 2011
Biometrics letter for December 13 - November 17, 2011
Walk in Biometrics November 25, 2011
RFE :( November 28, 2011
RFE response review - December 7. 2011
RFE#2 December 28, 2011
RFE response review - January 10, 2012
EAD Production - January 11, 2012
Case transferred - January 17, 2012
Green card in production - March 30, 2012

ROC

File date - March 24, 2014

Letter saying we need to be interviewed - November 2014

Interview and approved on December 09, 2014

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I don't see it mentioned in the guide, but with the first package are you suppose to send proof of being in a relationship?[e-mails, chats, pictures]

It would be wise to include as much proof as possible.

In my package I included the following evidence:

Marriage Certificate.

5 pages of text messages.

About 100 pages of chat messages.

Chat archive(chat log) showing all the dates/times we chatted.

Telephone call records.

About 60 pics of us together (including together with her family).

About 15 wedding pictures.

Copy of our boarding pass to our honeymoon.

Copy of the hotel bills where we stayed at our honeymoon.

USPS receipt of all items I mailed her.

Receipt of all the gifts I sent her online.

Receipt of money I sent her.

She is an authorize user on one of my credit cards - I send in a statement page showing her as an authorize user.

You can never have too much info.


USCIS

07-20-2010: I-130 package mailed.

07-22-2010: I-130 Package Received - Priority Date.

07-29-2010: Received text & email from USCIS - Notice Date.

07-30-2010: Check Cashed by USCIS.

08-02-2010: Received NOA1 hard copy.

08-02,04,05: Touched.

09-28-2010: Received text & email - petition approved.

10-04-2010: Received NOA2 hard copy.

NVC

10-13-2010: NVC Case# Received (after calling).

10-15-2010: Emailed DS-3032 to NVC.

10-16-2020: Received the DS-3032 package, IIN number & AOS bill via email.

10-22-2010: Paid AOS bill ($88) - showing IN PROCESS

10-25-2010: AOS fee PAID.

10-27-2010: Express Mail AOS Package.

10-27-2010: Paid IV bill - showing IN PROCESS.

10-28-2010: AOS package delivered.

10-28-2010: IV fee PAID.

10-29-2010: Express Mail IV package.

11-01-2010: IV package delivered.

11-08-2010: AOS packages entered into NVC system.

11-15-2010: IV package entered into NVC system.

11-23-2010: SIF.

11-24-2010: Case Complete.

CONSULATE

12-21-2010: Medical at SLMC - Passed

12-22-2010: Immunization at SLMC

01-04-2011: Interview @USEM ~ Approval

OTHER

02-05-2011: POE at JFK

N-400

05-01-2017: N-400 Sent

05-09-2017: Case accepted

05-15-2017: Biometric appointment scheduled

05-30-2017: Biometric

06-05-2017: Inline for interview

08-15-2017: Interview scheduled

09-19-2017: Interview (approved).

01-19-2018: Oath Ceremony

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I don't see it mentioned in the guide, but with the first package are you suppose to send proof of being in a relationship?[e-mails, chats, pictures]

For a K-1, you won't. (see it mentioned in the guide)

For a CR-1, you will. (see it mentioned in the guide)

Which Guide are you reviewing ?


Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
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Thanks everyone!

I asked a few of these questions here before in another section, but I'd like more opinions.

With our chat logs, I always just copy and pasted them to wordpad and saved them that way for the past two years, I'm worried this might be a problem, the date shows in the file, but not on the page. Do you think it would be a big deal or seem 'fake' if I put the date on there myself?

Two more things I'm a little worried about. In the beginning when him and I started talking I used a fake name, so there is about over 600 conversations there with me using that name. I didn't expect to ever meet anyone on the internet, so I didn't think it would matter using a fake name, of course I wish I didn't now! Should I write something explaining this to them? I'm kinda thinking about going through all the chats I plan to send and just change the name, but that will be a lot of work. I have never had to file taxes, so I have no tax returns to send. I have been on my dads taxes. Would they need his or would a letter saying that I've never had to filed taxes before be ok?

Darnell- I was looking here, maybe I missed it.

http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

We still haven't decided which to do, but we seem to be leaning towards the CR-1. Although whenever I feel 100% sure with this decision,I see a timeline that has taken over 1 year+ it makes me worried and want to rethink things.


I am the USC
September 7, 2010 - I-129F sent
September 18, 2010 - NOA1 hard copy received
February 3, 2011 - Approved
February 8, 2011 - NOA2 Hard copy received
May 30, 2011 - Medical
July 12, 2011 - Interview
August 31, 2011 Visa in hand
September 7, 2011 - POE
October 14, 2011 - Married!

Adjustment of Status
Sent - November 8, 2011
Delivered - November 9, 2011
NOA1 for all applications(email) - November 10,2011
NOA1 hard copy - November 17, 2011
Biometrics letter for December 13 - November 17, 2011
Walk in Biometrics November 25, 2011
RFE :( November 28, 2011
RFE response review - December 7. 2011
RFE#2 December 28, 2011
RFE response review - January 10, 2012
EAD Production - January 11, 2012
Case transferred - January 17, 2012
Green card in production - March 30, 2012

ROC

File date - March 24, 2014

Letter saying we need to be interviewed - November 2014

Interview and approved on December 09, 2014

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I don't see it mentioned in the guide, but with the first package are you suppose to send proof of being in a relationship?[e-mails, chats, pictures]

It's there, It is near the bottom of the page. Good luck!

Note: Evidence of a Bonifide Marriage

The USCIS now requires that when filing an I-130 for a spouse that you include evidence of a bonifide marriage. They list examples of acceptable evidence as:

1. Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

2. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence; or

3. Documentation showing co-mingling of financialresources; or

4. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, thepetitioner, and your spouse together; or

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage); or

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.


USCIS

NOA1 08/19/08

NOA2 01/20/09

NVC

Received 01/26/09

Completed 02/13/09 (19 Days)

Interview Assigned 03/27/09 (6 weeks after NVC completion)

Medical

04/14/09 (Toronto)

Interview

Montreal 05/12/09 (88 days after NVC completion) **APPROVED**

POE

06/16/09 Buffalo

07/02/09 Welcome Letter Received

07/07/09 Applied for SSN

07/10/09 "Card production ordered" email received

07/13/09 SSN received

07/14/09 "Approval notice sent" email received

07/17/09 GREEN CARD received

Removal of Conditions

03/21/11 I-751 mailed to VSC

03/23/11 I-751 received at VSC

03/29/11 Cheque Cashed

03/30/11 NOA1 received (3/24/11)

04/11/11 Biometrics appointment notice received

05/05/11 Biometric appointment

12/13/11 **Approval date** (5 days short of 9 months!)

12/19/11 Approval letter and green card received

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OP you don't really need ALL 600 conversations, that is excessive. Pick a few that you feel salute your relationship and move on.

Good luck


USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

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Originally me and my boyfriend were going to do the k-1 visa, but now I'm starting to think the cr-1 will be better since it is less money and he will be able to work right away. I have a question, it asks for evidence of a bonified marriage, we have never lived together so we don't have joint leases, property, or anything else it lists. Is this stuff really needed and could we get denied because we don't have any of that? Also, with the k1 visa the U.S citizen needs to make a certain amount of money, with the cr-1 is that the same? Also, can you use a co sponsor if needed?

Sorry for all the questions, I've spent months reading about k-1 visas, I haven't researched much about cr-1 yet.

Thanks

I would agree that the CR-1 visa is so much better than he k-1 visa,in terms of spending less on the long run and being able to work as soon as you get to US!

And well as for evidence for the CR-1 you could get your marriage certificate,a few pictures of both of you in your wedding or as you went out, or with eachother's family members, with friends, chat logs, emails, passport stamps, bording passes, hotel receipts, etc.. i would assume not all people would have joint leases, or property together (i know we don't) since most of them don't live with eachother yet!

And yes you can have a co-sponsor if your husband is not eligible to sponsor you, he would still need to file an I-864 though,and if the co-sponsor is from the same household they can file an I-864A ,if not then they would file an I-864 too!

Goodluck with your journey :thumbs:

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