Harvard (illegal alien) student won’t face deportation

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Being a Harvard student I would return to my 3rd world hellhole and make it a better place.

next question...

Of course, if I was admitted to Harvard due to affirmative action I would probably move to Mexico.

Well you wouldn't be a Harvard student for one. In fact unless you are born in the early summer, you wouldn't even finish your high school education before turning 18 (unless you skip a grade).

Your answer is pretty clear either way when you mentioned "hellhole". I don't know of a single human being who would voluntarily go to hell.

Edited June 22, 2010 by Sousuke

[Nica_In_Love 98]

There surely is a way for him not to be included in the 10 year ban because he was just 4 years old but he needs to go back to his country and make everything right. He is not a US citizen and he should face it like other people do.

I wouldn't be so sure. When I was 11 yrs old I overstayed a tourist visa for an extra 6 months (of course it wasn't my decision), since I was underage I couldn't be held accountable for a decision that wasn't mine. However, now all grown up, I wanted to visit my then boyfriend (now husband) in the US for Easter weekend. Guess what they said? "Sorry, I understand you were a kid when that happened but I can't help you." DENIED.

Most of us in this forum are immigrating to the US to be with our loved ones, or for work, etc. But what about the people that can't initiate an immigration process? A lot of people just say "Go back, and come the right way"... well there isn't always a way. And I know that doesn't make it right to "jump" the fence, however I do believe some really should be given a chance.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I think we should just turn Harvard into a mental institution and let Obama be the warden.

[GabiandVi 34]

Most of us in this forum are immigrating to the US to be with our loved ones, or for work, etc. But what about the people that can't initiate an immigration process? A lot of people just say "Go back, and come the right way"... well there isn't always a way. And I know that doesn't make it right to "jump" the fence, however I do believe some really should be given a chance.

But here's the thing, there are millions of people around the world who don't even have the chance to immigrate illegally or overstay a non-immigrant visa and who also have NO WAY to immigrate legally but who would love to do so. This boy benefited from 15 years of living in the US. While I might agree to some sort of dispensation for children brought to the US to stay illegally that they should not face a ban if they return as adults to their own countries, any sympathy I have for this boy is tempered by the sympathy I have for all those people around the world who haven't had the chances he has taken such great advantage of.

[natty bumppo 289]

how is he going to legally work in the US after graduating?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

how is he going to legally work in the US after graduating?

How did he even get into Harvard? Musta got lost on his way to school.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Harvard is very selective. They're above political ideology. There's a reason why they don't admit just a plain valedictorian from high school who was a over acheiver. They look for students who not only valedictorians, and overacheivers in high school, but, they also look for students who has the potential to change the world positively with his or her education.

This kid grew up with the adversity of people hating him because he's an illegal, managed to overcome this adversity in an environment where he is constantly being bombarded by people who like to deny him human rights just by the fact he is illegal. Everday growing up, he his family had been bullied constantly. And, his parents worked for low wages. So he has no luxuries like legal immigrants or citizens.

Despite the negativity, he overcame his prejudices against those who bullied his family, received high grades from school. For many kids who grew up in this environment, the chances of them becoming a successful student is very small. Most would drop out.

Harvard looks for people like this for admission. Someone who has a motivational history, perseverance, and aptitude. Not just valedictorians. I will tell you last year, about 700 valedictorians applied to Harvard and rejected.

How did he even get into Harvard? Musta got lost on his way to school.

[GabiandVi 34]

Despite the negativity, he overcame his prejudices against those who bullied his family, received high grades from school. For many kids who grew up in this environment, the chances of them becoming a successful student is very small. Most would drop out.

I didn't read about the bullying in the article. Do you know this boy personally?

[sachinky 464]

But here's the thing, there are millions of people around the world who don't even have the chance to immigrate illegally or overstay a non-immigrant visa and who also have NO WAY to immigrate legally but who would love to do so. This boy benefited from 15 years of living in the US. While I might agree to some sort of dispensation for children brought to the US to stay illegally that they should not face a ban if they return as adults to their own countries, any sympathy I have for this boy is tempered by the sympathy I have for all those people around the world who haven't had the chances he has taken such great advantage of.

This. It's not about 'being jealous that you didn't get into Harvard' -- to me, it's a matter of fairness. There's a lot of people who would give their right arm to be in the U.S., study in colleges, 'better their lives' so to speak but they will never have the chance simply because they don't live in a country that shares a porous border with the U.S. What about those people? Don't they deserve sympathy--shouldn't we cut them some slack as well? Let all the poor and hardworking people from Calcutta or Ethiopia flood in?

Edited June 23, 2010 by sachinky

[Niels Bohr 72]

Lets just say I was invited to a special meeting at Harvard.

I didn't read about the bullying in the article. Do you know this boy personally?

[Nica_In_Love 98]

But here's the thing, there are millions of people around the world who don't even have the chance to immigrate illegally or overstay a non-immigrant visa and who also have NO WAY to immigrate legally but who would love to do so. This boy benefited from 15 years of living in the US. While I might agree to some sort of dispensation for children brought to the US to stay illegally that they should not face a ban if they return as adults to their own countries, any sympathy I have for this boy is tempered by the sympathy I have for all those people around the world who haven't had the chances he has taken such great advantage of.

I'm not sure that comparison makes much sense. It's like I see beggar close to my house asking for money, do I feel bad for him and try to help, or just don't because there are millions of beggars around the world that I can't help in that moment?

I repeat, a student visa most likely will be denied because he is an illegal (even if he returns home).

[Sofiyya 1,687]

How did he even get into Harvard? Musta got lost on his way to school.

It shows how far Harvard has fallen. They're not even doing the due diligence they should to maintain their elitism and prestige. Obviously, they are not as selective as they once were, and it's not the first time . . .

High school seniors all of the country would do anything to attend a school like Harvard or Columbia. The application

process is intense, and every answer to every question is heavily scrutinized. However, Elizabeth Esther Reed was able to get into both schools by providing the wrong answer on the very first line: “Please fill in your name.” Better known as Brooke Henson to her classmates, Reed used the identity of a missing woman from South Carolina to take classes and eventually obtain employment. Reed was featured on America’s Most Wanted and most recently plead guilty to charges of fraud and identity theft.

[David & Beng 0]

I wouldn't be so sure. When I was 11 yrs old I overstayed a tourist visa for an extra 6 months (of course it wasn't my decision), since I was underage I couldn't be held accountable for a decision that wasn't mine. However, now all grown up, I wanted to visit my then boyfriend (now husband) in the US for Easter weekend. Guess what they said? "Sorry, I understand you were a kid when that happened but I can't help you." DENIED.

Most of us in this forum are immigrating to the US to be with our loved ones, or for work, etc. But what about the people that can't initiate an immigration process? A lot of people just say "Go back, and come the right way"... well there isn't always a way. And I know that doesn't make it right to "jump" the fence, however I do believe some really should be given a chance.

I do believe in one thing, "If theres a will, theres a way". The thing is... this young man and his family came here illegaly. Whats the point of making the Law if it will not be followed? It will be so unfair for those people who are working so hard, spending lots of money for them to come here legally. I also believe that everybody deserves to be given a chance BUT in a right way not in illegal way. In everything we do theres always consequences whether we like it or not. He doesnt have a choice same as you because you both were still young but NOW? You have a choice... a choice to make it right.

[Niels Bohr 72]

You went to Devry or University of Pheonix online I bet.

It shows how far Harvard has fallen. They're not even doing the due diligence they should to maintain their elitism and prestige. Obviously, they are not as selective as they once were, and it's not the first time . . .

High school seniors all of the country would do anything to attend a school like Harvard or Columbia. The application

process is intense, and every answer to every question is heavily scrutinized. However, Elizabeth Esther Reed was able to get into both schools by providing the wrong answer on the very first line: “Please fill in your name.” Better known as Brooke Henson to her classmates, Reed used the identity of a missing woman from South Carolina to take classes and eventually obtain employment. Reed was featured on America’s Most Wanted and most recently plead guilty to charges of fraud and identity theft.

[Justine+David 218]

It's a hard situation all around...I do know for certain though that I think the parents should be brought back to Mexico ASAP...