Getting a Social Security Card for my Daughter

[Gene1966 0]

Hi I'm new to this Group! The Story is My daughter is born in the Philippines Oct 2009 My daughter still resides in the philippines with my girl friend the mother of our child! I went to apply for a Social security card for my daughter at social security office today I have the original copy of my daughters birth certificate my girlfriend mailed me! The gal at social security office told me I have to go to Immigration office I can't remember what exactly what she told me. The purpose of getting a social security card for my daughter, I want to claim my daughter for tax purposes so what form do I need to fill out from Immigration office?? so I can fill this paperwork from immigration so I can complete my daughters SS application! The gal also told me I still can claim my daughter as a dependent I have to get a tin# from IRS I have to call IRS to get it! So can anyone help me on this??!! I really want to get this over with ASAP! so I can claim her for next years taxes as long I get my daughter a SS card and make it easier for her to come to the US??. once I file fiance visa for my girlfriend! Thanks Worried Dad!

[Anh map 2,098]

Did you do the CRBA (consular report of birth abroad) at the Manila embassy to establish your daughter's claim to US citizenship, and thus a SSN?

[Gene1966 0]

Did you do the CRBA (consular report of birth abroad) at the Manila embassy to establish your daughter's claim to US citizenship, and thus a SSN?

My girlfriend mailed me the paperwork (Affidavit to use the surname of the father) So I filled it out and I had it Notarized after that I send the paperwork back to my girlfriend by Fedex she took the paperwork back to Local/city Civil Registrar so the paperwork was accepted my daughter has my last name on her birth certificate I named my daughter after my mother! so 2 weeks later my girlfriend mailed me the original copy of birth certificate! The CRBA The Manila embassy is way to far for me to go! Do they have a webpage? so I can download the paperwork fill it out and mail it?? or can I go to Immigration Office fill out some kind of paper work or whatever?? the gal at social security office told me to go there! I never see so many hassle just to get my daughter a SSN

[Anh map 2,098]

Only citizens and lawfully admitted aliens can get a SSN. All you need to do is prove her citizenship. The report of birth abroad happens at the embassy/consulate in the country where the child was born. US embassy Manila website has instructions about the process.

You will need this to obtain your child's passport so that they can enter the US when the mother obtains her visa.

[Gene1966 0]

Only citizens and lawfully admitted aliens can get a SSN. All you need to do is prove her citizenship. The report of birth abroad happens at the embassy/consulate in the country where the child was born. US embassy Manila website has instructions about the process.

You will need this to obtain your child's passport so that they can enter the US when the mother obtains her visa.

Ok is this the form you talking about?? http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwf2029.pdf

That I fill out so I can get my daughter registered so I can finally get her SSN! Thanks for replying to post! I appreciate it

[NickD 203]

Assume you are a USC with a child born abroad, what should have been done is to report that birth to a US Consulate in the country where the child was born. Maybe it's better to do that late than never.

When I had questions regarding when my step daughter, I called the IRS before claiming her, she was a member of my household, was my step daughter, but wasn't here long enough to be eligible for a SSN, was told was legal to claim her and just leave the SS section blank. I had no problems with that, but she does have an SS number now. Also here, it was not common to get a SS number until you were 16 years of age if you wanted a part time job. But common to get a SS number soon after birth. But I do not believe that is a law engraved in stone. When my kids were growing up, never fooled with them getting an SS number. Just left it blank.

But laws change, you can learn how to contact the IRS at IRS or can pay a tax consultant for your questions. I prefer to go directly to the IRS, for one thing, it's free.

[kungfuadam 0]

Only citizens and lawfully admitted aliens can get a SSN. All you need to do is prove her citizenship. The report of birth abroad happens at the embassy/consulate in the country where the child was born. US embassy Manila website has instructions about the process.

You will need this to obtain your child's passport so that they can enter the US when the mother obtains her visa.

What happens in the case of my stepdaughter who was brought in under my wife's fiancee visa? She has a resident card, but since she is too young to work, is not authorized to work. My wife has an SSN because she is authorized to work. I got an email from my employer several months ago saying my health insurer reserves the right to request her social security number at any time. I was not able to include her on 2008 tax filing, and I want to see how I can include her on 2009 taxes. Everything I am reading states she cannot get one, but she is a lawfully admitted alien, she just wouldn't be authorized to work. My wife's SSN card says for work only, but there is no problem using that number for health insurance, bank etc.

[payxibka 10,045]

What happens in the case of my stepdaughter who was brought in under my wife's fiancee visa? She has a resident card, but since she is too young to work, is not authorized to work. My wife has an SSN because she is authorized to work. I got an email from my employer several months ago saying my health insurer reserves the right to request her social security number at any time. I was not able to include her on 2008 tax filing, and I want to see how I can include her on 2009 taxes. Everything I am reading states she cannot get one, but she is a lawfully admitted alien, she just wouldn't be authorized to work. My wife's SSN card says for work only, but there is no problem using that number for health insurance, bank etc.

You say your stepdaughter has her resident card... THAT is what you need to get her a SSN. Her resident card IS work authorization....

Since your wife also has her resident card you can go back to the SSA and get a new card for her WITHOUT the "restriction" language

Edited January 28, 2010 by payxibka

[NickD 203]

You say your stepdaughter has her resident card... THAT is what you need to get her a SSN. Her resident card IS work authorization....

Since your wife also has her resident card you can go back to the SSA and get a new card for her WITHOUT the "restriction" language

Having a social security card has nothing to do with going to work, other laws cover that, who is giving you this information? Gee, my newest granddaughter got her SS card when she was two weeks old. My alien step daughter got hers the day after she got her EAD card and that was before she got her green card. Can also say, she was way too young to work. Regarding claiming her on my income taxes before her EAD came in, she was part of my household, I was supporting her, and I most certainly did claim her as a dependent. Even called the IRS on that one, just leave her SSN area blank, really no law a child has to have an SS card. But you sure need one even to start some kind of a part time job at age 16, so they can deduct and credit FICA taxes.

I killed two birds with one stone with a trip to my local SS office, had both passports for an additional photo ID, both their EAD cards, both their signed applications, our marriage certificate to verify the name change of her passport. They made copies and we got both SS cards in the mail a week later. Then went back again when they got their conditional green cards, then back again when my wife got her USC. Didn't have to get an EAD card for my daughter, but a gray area between the DOS, the USCIS, and the Department of Education, with her EAD card, she was definitely legal to go to school. Cost an extra 300 bucks, but can save grief if anything happened, but nothing did. First use of my step daughters SS card was so she could get her drivers' license, was a requirement in our state.

[kungfuadam 0]

Having a social security card has nothing to do with going to work, other laws cover that, who is giving you this information?

I got this from the SSA website-

http://www.ssa.gov/ss5doc/ Documents you need. I considered her a non-citizen because she is not adopted, and foreign born. I guess I should just take the time to go to the Social Security Administration and do it.

[NickD 203]

I got this from the SSA website-

http://www.ssa.gov/ss5doc/ Documents you need. I considered her a non-citizen because she is not adopted, and foreign born. I guess I should just take the time to go to the Social Security Administration and do it.

You mean this assuming your child is under 12 years of age.

"Social Security Number for a Foreign-Born U.S. Citizen Child (never had a number) To apply for a Social Security number for your child:

• Complete an Application For A Social Security Card (Form SS-5); and
  
• Show us documents proving your child’s:
  • U.S. citizenship;
    
  • Age; and
    
  • Identity.
    

  [*]Show us proof of your identity.

  [*] Take your completed application and original documents to your local Social Security office."

Can see problems with proving you are the USC father, typically in a birth of this type in a foreign country, that birth was to be proved to the US Embassy in that country, and a good form of identity would be that baby having a US passport, I assume this child does have a legitimate birth certificate, that you would also need at that US Embassy. This is perhaps what they mean by seeing immigration first, another solution is to apply for an N-600. Not having experience in this, would think it would be awkward to say the least to try to do that here while the child is there.

In regards to claiming this child as a dependent, that may have to be looked into as well, sounds more like a case of child support, in case of an audit, proof of that support is required. I know of only unwed mother here, she had to get a court order for child support from the father and with that court order, the father had proof he had to make those payments besides hanging unto the receipts. This gets involved, the IRS may considered your contributions as charity to an unrecognized charity.

Any thoughts of marrying that woman and bringing her and your child here? May be the easiest way. Just giving you things to look into, but you can see what SS and the IRS has to say about this.

My case was considerably different, petitioned to bring my wife's kid here and she was living with me.

[louloumarietta 0]

A child MUST be present at the social security office. They will not issue a ssn if child not there. I have two kids. When I first moved to the U.S., I went to the ssn office and was told had to bring my kids. After having conditions removed, same thing. Both my kids had to be present at the ssn office.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Ok is this the form you talking about?? http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwf2029.pdf

That I fill out so I can get my daughter registered so I can finally get her SSN! Thanks for replying to post! I appreciate it

Yes. That's exactly what you need. As you are unmarried (and sometimes even married) it's likely that they will ask for a DNA test to prove paternity first. Just a head up there.

Once it's all complete they will mail you a US passport for the child.

[NickD 203]

A child MUST be present at the social security office. They will not issue a ssn if child not there. I have two kids. When I first moved to the U.S., I went to the ssn office and was told had to bring my kids. After having conditions removed, same thing. Both my kids had to be present at the ssn office.

That what the idiot told me too, even with that big fat sign on the wall, don't have to wait in line, mail your applications in! Course, I would be the idiot if I mailed in impossible to replace documents that I may never see again.

My first comment to him is wait a minute, I am not coming here to get money, I am coming here is you can rob of by taking away 15% of our post tax dollars that we may never see again. God, I need help, I lose patience instantly from dealing with these little gods. But fortunately for this idiot, the manager came along and corrected me. I was just about ready to kill him. Don't these people realize we pay them and they are there to serve us?

[kungfuadam 0]

I guess I was misunderstood.

I am married, and my wife brought her in with her fiancee visa. Everyone lives with me. I have a baby daughter who was born in the US, and she has the card. It is my foreign stepdaughter I am concerned about.

You mean this assuming your child is under 12 years of age.

"Social Security Number for a Foreign-Born U.S. Citizen Child (never had a number) To apply for a Social Security number for your child:

• Complete an Application For A Social Security Card (Form SS-5); and
  
• Show us documents proving your child’s:
  • U.S. citizenship;
    
  • Age; and
    
  • Identity.
    

  [*]Show us proof of your identity.

  [*] Take your completed application and original documents to your local Social Security office."

Can see problems with proving you are the USC father, typically in a birth of this type in a foreign country, that birth was to be proved to the US Embassy in that country, and a good form of identity would be that baby having a US passport, I assume this child does have a legitimate birth certificate, that you would also need at that US Embassy. This is perhaps what they mean by seeing immigration first, another solution is to apply for an N-600. Not having experience in this, would think it would be awkward to say the least to try to do that here while the child is there.

In regards to claiming this child as a dependent, that may have to be looked into as well, sounds more like a case of child support, in case of an audit, proof of that support is required. I know of only unwed mother here, she had to get a court order for child support from the father and with that court order, the father had proof he had to make those payments besides hanging unto the receipts. This gets involved, the IRS may considered your contributions as charity to an unrecognized charity.

Any thoughts of marrying that woman and bringing her and your child here? May be the easiest way. Just giving you things to look into, but you can see what SS and the IRS has to say about this.

My case was considerably different, petitioned to bring my wife's kid here and she was living with me.