marriage between muslim women and non muslim men . HALAL or Haram

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

and did u read what i wrote here about what I have been learning about YOU today???

I learned enough from you already today... you dont know how to respect or treat women... you dont know anyone personally, you think you are as GOD who is the Judge of all mankind and you like to throw stones at women for who they marry bcz you must think you are without sin... and you refuse to answer why you just told me a contradiction about how you just posted Muslims marrying muslims but...

enough learned from you

[abdo 0]

I beg to differ. This is not always the case. I've known a couple MENA women married to Western men. These women don't know how to cook diddly. One of the women behaves like a spoiled child. Hardly a mother/wife combo.

Western men marrying MENA women wow hahah mother + wife all in one

we are talking about muslim women and one of them on VJ says that she does not care if her husband is muslim or not...,she does not know about ISLAM then,we are here only to give help and advice that is why i post the topic VJ attacks ISLAM but i can see they deleted it,they dont want members to learn and understand .

and this is another question:

why you want to marry a muslim man if you dont like his religion?

its simple they just want a man because they are alone ..!

you are the last person i want help from. i know where I stand in life. So keep your pittiful teachings to yourself. And there is nothing at all in quoran that states muslim woman cannot marry muslim men, the ony pitiful reason you gave is (to sum it up), woman are spineless and cant hold their ground, well buddy you have never met an american woman! Woman here are mothers, fathers, providers and teachers. So get a clue!!

WHY YOU CANT JUST ASK AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE..GO ASK IMAM BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU ARE MUSLIM THAT MEANS YOU GO TO THE MOSQUE OR ASK YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS OR ASK ANY 3ALIMA/SCIENTISTS OR SEARCH ON THE INTERNET I REMEMBER YOU.. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAYS THAT YOU DONT LOVE MOHAMED EVEN IF YOU ARE MUSLIM THERE IS THING FOR YOU :

MOHAMED SAYS : YOU SHOULD LOVE ME MORE THAN YOU LOVE YOURSELF..

[RAKASA 0]

ABDO:

[abdo 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

when they say they dont love MOHAMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[~Jackie~ 30]

I am truly getting immune to men telling me I am not muslim....just ask my ex. May Allah have mercy on his evil soul.

Allah alone will judge me on the Last Day. He knows my heart and my intentions. I have nothing to prove to posters here or the vile ex. (hey,,evil and vile are the same letters ..lol )

jackie

[RAKASA 0]

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

when they say they dont love MOHAMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so you have the right to insult women based on who they love... whether it be a man or mohamed... gotcha

[RAKASA 0]

Edited April 21, 2008 by ME~n~HIM

[mohamed N melinda 0]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

Anas Ibn Maalik, may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “One who attains the following three things will taste the sweetness of faith: To make Allaah and His Messenger more beloved to himself than anything else; To love a person for no other reason except for the sake of Allaah; And to hate to return to disbelief just as much as he would hate to be thrown into fire.” (Bukhaari, Muslim and others).

Allaah says that which translates as: “You will not find a people who believe in Allaah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those – He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit from Him. And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide eternally. Allaah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him – those are the party of Allaah. Unquestionably, the party of Allaah – they are the successful.” (Al-Mujaadilah: 22)

Allaah says that which translates as: “The Prophet is more worthy of the believers than themselves.” (Al-Ahzaab: 6).

Anas Ibn Maalik, may Allaah be pleased with him, narrated that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “One who attains the following three things will taste the sweetness of faith: To make Allaah and His Messenger more beloved to himself than anything else; To love a person for no other reason except for the sake of Allaah; And to hate to return to disbelief just as much as he would hate to be thrown into fire.” (Bukhaari, Muslim and others

Allaah says that which translates as: “Say [O Muhammad], if your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your wives, your relatives, wealth which you have obtained, commerce wherein you fear decline, and dwellings with which you are pleased are more beloved to you than Allaah and His Messenger and Jihaad [i.e., fighting] in His cause, then wait until Allaah executes His command. And Allaah does not guide the defiantly disobedient people.” (At-Tawbah: 24).

Ibn Mas’ood, may Allaah be pleased with him, and others narrated that a man came to the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam and said: "O Messenger of Allaah! What do you say about a man who loved some people yet did not do what it takes in order for him to be with them (in the hereafter" The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam replied: “One will be with whom he loves” (Bukhaari, Muslim and others).

Allaah says that which translates as: “And whoever obeys Allaah and the Messenger – those will be with the ones upon whom Allaah has bestowed favour of the prophets, the steadfast affirmers of the truth, the martyrs and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions.” (An-Nisaa’: 69).

[amal 4]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

you should love MOHAMED more than you love yourself ... : MOHAMED says this

and you can be muslim as long as you believe that LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASSOLO ALLAH

you have to go ask if you dont believe me AMAL?

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!!

ok, i do believe that. and where, in that statement, does it say that i have to love Prophet Mohammed? Having said that, I do appreciate what he did and respect him very much. But the word "love" is not required. I don't have to defend anything coz my relationship is with God alone and it is to remain that way. Nobody is to tell me that I'm not Muslim. God knows my intents and I know that within myself, all of my intents are pure and with good intention so I have absolutely no worries. Praise be to Allah and all of his messengers!!!

[abdo 0]

I am truly getting immune to men telling me I am not muslim....just ask my ex. May Allah have mercy on his evil soul.

Allah alone will judge me on the Last Day. He knows my heart and my intentions. I have nothing to prove to posters here or the vile ex. (hey,,evil and vile are the same letters ..lol )

jackie

when someone says he does not love MOHAMED believe me JACKIE he is not muslim and the message i wrote before is not adressed to you ,its adressed to muslim NANA_356 as u know she wrote that she does not love MOHAMED ..

and about you : i post a message about MARRIAGE IN ISLAM and you answer WHO ###### CARES.

that is not good and GOD will ask you about this and if you are muslim your reply is not muslim.

[nana_356 0]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

you should love MOHAMED more than you love yourself ... : MOHAMED says this

and you can be muslim as long as you believe that LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASSOLO ALLAH

you have to go ask if you dont believe me AMAL?

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!!

ok, i do believe that. and where, in that statement, does it say that i have to love Prophet Mohammed? Having said that, I do appreciate what he did and respect him very much. But the word "love" is not required. I don't have to defend anything coz my relationship is with God alone and it is to remain that way. Nobody is to tell me that I'm not Muslim. God knows my intents and I know that within myself, all of my intents are pure and with good intention so I have absolutely no worries. Praise be to Allah and all of his messengers!!!

[chaishai 1]

I am starting to think you have to be adept at copying and pasting to be a "good" muslim!!!! there are always a few good points and then the pasting pasting pasting.

[nana_356 0]

I am truly getting immune to men telling me I am not muslim....just ask my ex. May Allah have mercy on his evil soul.

Allah alone will judge me on the Last Day. He knows my heart and my intentions. I have nothing to prove to posters here or the vile ex. (hey,,evil and vile are the same letters ..lol )

jackie

when someone says he does not love MOHAMED believe me JACKIE he is not muslim and the message i wrote before is not adressed to you ,its adressed to muslim NANA_356 as u know she wrote that she does not love MOHAMED ..

and about you : i post a message about MARRIAGE IN ISLAM and you answer WHO ###### CARES.

that is not good and GOD will ask you about this and if you are muslim your reply is not muslim.

Edited April 21, 2008 by nana_356

[jade2004 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno