Father in law and sister in law visas

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Let him send in what he wants.  If they get their visas, fantastic.  If they don't, he can't blame you.

 

If you convince him not to send in anything and they don't get their visas, you will get the blame.

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Not likely to be an issue in this case if he sends such documentation or does not.

[RetConnOff 17]

the bank accounts of friends or relatives of visa applicants mean nothing...a CO does not care about how big their house is, how many cars they own, what college they may have graduated from or whether they are self proclaimed 'honest and law abiding 'people...and the I-134 is (a) not legally enforceable and (b) not a requirement for any visa applicant  except, oddly, K1 applicants)  to present during their interview, and (c) there is no legal basis that can force a relative or friend to pay for costs of a trip by a B2 visa holder. Saying it does not legally bind the person making such a statement. Invitation letters only explain (sort of) why the applicant wants to GO to the United States; it carries absolutely no weight whatsoever explaining or promising why the applicant would depart the United States after their visit is concluded.

I am not sure why so many people believe otherwise. No one in the US, save for ICE agents, has any legal authority over someone who has been admitted to the US as a visitor for pleasure (or any other visa category,for that matter), and so any promises made in an invite letter that 'I will make sure that he/she leaves' have no value because of the lack of legal authority to make anyone do anything...no one can force another person to leave the country, much less board an airplane!

It comes down to the perceived credibility of the applicant....as well as, to some extent, the reasons that applicant may have that would compel them to depart the US when it's time.

Edited May 15, 2017 by RetConnOff

[sy1983 31]

16 hours ago, geowrian said:

Nothing (again). You cannot sponsor a tourist visa. Also, an invitation letter and the other items are likely to do more harm than good. they just need to bring their evidence of ties to return home, as you noted they will do. They don't really care about why they're coming to the US so much as why they have a compelling reason to leave.

 

No, an I-134 should not be provided since you cannot sponsor a tourist visa.

 

Good luck.

Why would an invitation letter do more harm ?

[RetConnOff 17]

An invitation letter is (a) not required of any B2 applicant) and (b) is neutral at best. As I mentioned before, an invitation letter only purports to outline the reason why someone wants to GO to the United States; it has no value whatsoever as far as making any binding representation on the part of the author as to why the applicant would DEPART the United States. An invitation letter that makes grandiose promises of support, 'paying for everything' and 'making sure that he/she will not be a burden on the U.S. taxpayers' only serves to underline the fact that a support system is already in place.....in the United States..   should the applicant change his or her mind about going home. Thus, it may do more harm and certainly does no good at all.

[geowrian 22,335]

28 minutes ago, sy1983 said:

Why would an invitation letter do more harm ?

Exactly as outlined directly above this post. An invitation alone won't hurt, but it won't help. And volunteering information that won't help always carries the risk of hurting IMHO...only provide what is actually required/requested/beneficial. But generally said invitation letter makes promises that imply a support network is available in the US, which is a tie to the US. It's one thing to have family here (which is also a tie), but it's exacerbated by having a family that says they will take care of you in the US...decreasing the incentive/need to leave.

[RetConnOff 17]

be careful, however, when not volunteering information that one fully answers the question asked...because giving partial answers can easily give the appearance of evasiveness....responding to a question with a question (other than, 'can you please repeat that?') will also cast doubt upon one's credibility....honesty, openness work better than trying to memorize answers, or worse, try to outwit the CO....

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2 hours ago, RetConnOff said:

An invitation letter is (a) not required of any B2 applicant) and (b) is neutral at best. As I mentioned before, an invitation letter only purports to outline the reason why someone wants to GO to the United States; it has no value whatsoever as far as making any binding representation on the part of the author as to why the applicant would DEPART the United States. An invitation letter that makes grandiose promises of support, 'paying for everything' and 'making sure that he/she will not be a burden on the U.S. taxpayers' only serves to underline the fact that a support system is already in place.....in the United States..   should the applicant change his or her mind about going home. Thus, it may do more harm and certainly does no good at all.

 

2 hours ago, geowrian said:

Exactly as outlined directly above this post. An invitation alone won't hurt, but it won't help. And volunteering information that won't help always carries the risk of hurting IMHO...only provide what is actually required/requested/beneficial. But generally said invitation letter makes promises that imply a support network is available in the US, which is a tie to the US. It's one thing to have family here (which is also a tie), but it's exacerbated by having a family that says they will take care of you in the US...decreasing the incentive/need to leave.

 

One can never guarantee what the visitor(s) will do. I read a post on immigrate2us where a guy's MIL was visiting and after her time was supposed to be up she refused to leave. He even tried taking her to the airport but she then threw a tantrum and caused a scene.

[sy1983 31]

2 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

 

 

One can never guarantee what the visitor(s) will do. I read a post on immigrate2us where a guy's MIL was visiting and after her time was supposed to be up she refused to leave. He even tried taking her to the airport but she then threw a tantrum and caused a scene.

Thats when you call the cops ! hehe

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7 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

One can never guarantee what the visitor(s) will do. I read a post on immigrate2us where a guy's MIL was visiting and after her time was supposed to be up she refused to leave. He even tried taking her to the airport but she then threw a tantrum and caused a scene.

Ouch, the ultimate horror scenario.

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8 minutes ago, sy1983 said:

Thats when you call the cops ! hehe

To do what? They can make her leave the house, but not the US. You would need ICE involved, which doesn't just show up when somebody calls.

Edited May 15, 2017 by geowrian

[ConOfficer 167]

We only read invitation letters if we want to draw out the interview a little longer so it doesn't end awkwardly after 30 seconds. 

[Possiblymaybe 371]

My MIL received a visitors visa from Morocco.  We didn't send in any of that information, and she just said that she wanted to visit her son and his wife.

I think that your FIL's chances of receiving a visitor visa are much better than the SIL.

Let us know how it turns out

[RetConnOff 17]

As ConOff said, invitation letters are mostly considered to be 'fluff' by COs...they have no value (though many people think they have some), and are really just a piece of paper to 'hmmm' and 'haw' over....

A CO is NOT legally bound to tell an applicant why they did not overcome 214b, because we are not in the business of 'coaching' applicants for a future application....the generic refusal reduces the chance of arguments and does not draw some sort of road map to success (i.e., getting the visa) that people could latch onto....it is best to end the interview with a question whose answer makes no sense (in order to avoid arguments)...if I have (had) decided to refuse an application, my last question would be something bizarre, like, 'what color is your car?'....an applicant is surely not going to go out and have their car repainted......but, if the last question asked pertained to their bank account, then after being denied, a lot of those applicants would go out and have a fake bank doc made, showing some larger sum of money in the bank, not realizing that we could see through that silly charade....or, their relative would call or write soon thereafter, claiming we were discriminating against poor people....but...who can argue about the merits of the color of one's car?(or washing machine....or sofa??)

[Cathi 5,610]

They have to prove they THEY can finance their own trip. If they don't have proof they have their win funds, they'll be denied. Sending documents that will prove they do not, in fact, have the ability to finance their trip will only make matters worse. I'm not really sure why you and your husband are having trouble understanding this.