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The english in that contract is almost unintelligible. I don't think any self respecting, qualified, immigration attorney or immigration service would deal with such poorly constructed documents.

Also its evident that whoever typed up this piece of trash doesn't know how to use the numbered list function in Microsoft Word. The "1.)" in the first clause is formatted correctly, albeit with a different font, and all of the other numbers are simply embedded in with the paragraphs. If this humble soul actually underwent any kind of quality education I would assume that he/she would know how to properly draft a contract.

I would first blend that contract until the fibers became soft, make toilet paper out of it, then give it back to whoever wrote it to use.

If you paid money I would ask to see this person's credentials (if he has any). Once you have the credentials, photocopy them and tell him that you are going to double check to make sure that they are valid. If he hasn't crapped his pants and offered to give you your money back by then, I would verify with the state BAR or Board of Immigration Appeals that this guy is legit.

Was this guy trying to pose as an immigration lawyer, accredited representative or what?

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I-612 Waiver of J1 Two Year Rule
12/31/2011 - Wife Entered U.S. on J-1 visa, Foreign Residence Requirement Applies
9/28/2013 - Married in the U.S.
7/23/2014 - NOA1 form I-612 for Waiver of the Foreign Residence Requirement (Basis: Extreme Hardship)
8/8/2014 - RFE Received
11/14/2014 - NOA2 I-612 Waiver Denied, Could not establish hardship
12/15/2014 - Sent another I-612 packet to U.S. Dept of state (Basis: No-Objection Statement)
12/15/2014 - Sent in application to Philippines Govt. for No-Objection Statement
1/14/2015 - No Objection Statement granted
4 months of waiting - The Philippines Govt. forgot about us!!!!
5/8/2015 - After multiple calls and emails the No Objection Statement was finally transmitted to DOS
6/4/2015 - I-612 Waiver APPROVED!

IR-1 Visa
6/3/2015 - Sent I-130 to Phoenix Locbox
6/4/2015 - NOA1
108 Days of waiting
9/22/2015 - NOA2
9/24/2015 - Case sent to NVC
10/1/2015 - Case received at NVC
10/14/2015 - Case number assigned
10/15/2015 - AOS Fee Paid online
10/19/2015 - CEAC AOS Fee status changed to "Paid" - AOS and IV packets sent to NVC
10/27/2015 - DS-261 was reviewed over the phone
10/29/2015 - DS-261 confirmed complete (over phone) and IV Bill Received - Paid online immediately "In Process"
10/30/2015 - Scan Date
11/2/2015 - IV Bill marked "Paid" and DS-260 completed

12/4/2015 - Case Complete (need to bring 1 corrected doc to Embassy)

1/6/15 - Medical Exam Complete

1/19/2015 - Interview Date

1/22/2015 - Visa Received (yellow envelope damaged)

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Looks like a real contract to me. It does not involve any promise of legal representation it is only a promise to provide the information and paperwork necessary to be a co-sponsor for immigration purposes. If the person violates the terms of the contract you can certainly sue them in civil court.

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Legal or not? That is what attorneys are for.. not the internet.


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i not see any jurisdiction verbiage for dispute resolution,

so no, this is not a valid contract. that's it, that's all, that will make it not a real contract.

Let's go over other stuff, aye?

1. if this is for you, a uscitizen petitioner chasing a K-1 visa for a fiance, why do you not have enough monies to support the fiance, on I-134 adjudication in guangzhou and I-864 adjudication back at a uscis service center? this is big red flag in my book.

2. wording is not legal-ese - ie - no one went to legalzoom website and made the time to purchase a book of templates, and certainly not make time to copy/paste relevant legal phrasing.

3. is it a scam? could it be a scam? sure! as the intent in the contract is to provide a joint sponsor for I-134 and subsequent I-864 between a uscitizen and an unknown human. who does that? [i'll leave the answer to be self-evident to any reader]

in closing, i'll ask -

do you need a joint sponsor? or are you being co-erced to use this particular joint sponsor by your fiance back in china ? if the latter, something is amiss.


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I do hope that the OP did not pay $2800.00 to someone to help line up a joint sponsor.


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Definitely not an attorney's writing, but rather an fobbish individual

just trying to earn few bucks as an immigration agent.

There are lots of problems with the contract for sure.

1) For this, "The amount : US dollar 2800", it doesn't state who's paying who. LOL

2) For "Party A is responsible to provide Party B...at least 3 months of common guarantor's payroll",

Surely he meant 3 paycheck stubs for use as evidence, but this language would suggest that

he'll pay you 3 months of his payroll.

4) This statement "...government welfare or relates to the medical expenses will under party B's responsibility."

completely negates the whole purpose of co-sponsorship.

While it's a goofy contract, if you solicited for such stranger's co-sponsorship and

eventually agreed and signed the contract, I'm not sure what you would get out of him.

In fact, I'm wondering if it's even illegal for you to enter into such contract that

tries to negate the whole purpose of co-sponsorship's responsibility,

yet presented the co-sponsorship paperwork to USCIS like if you've got something legit.

Just a thought...


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11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

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07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

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10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
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02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
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04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
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04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
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The guy has signed one contact , anyone can take a look at this contract for me? it is legal or not? if i take him to court, can i win him and take money back?

Thanks for your help.

as to court, it depends on local jurisdiction, and whether or not the things listed in the agreements [sic] were actually provided, or no.

Did C. He actually give over an i-134 yet? if no, and you wish to back out, paragraph 5 seems to have wording in it that would allow for negotiation for a full refund.

disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play a lawyer on TV, podcast, or youtube.

Edited by Darnell

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
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The english in that contract is almost unintelligible. I don't think any self respecting, qualified, immigration attorney or immigration service would deal with such poorly constructed documents.

Also its evident that whoever typed up this piece of trash doesn't know how to use the numbered list function in Microsoft Word. The "1.)" in the first clause is formatted correctly, albeit with a different font, and all of the other numbers are simply embedded in with the paragraphs. If this humble soul actually underwent any kind of quality education I would assume that he/she would know how to properly draft a contract.

I would first blend that contract until the fibers became soft, make toilet paper out of it, then give it back to whoever wrote it to use.

If you paid money I would ask to see this person's credentials (if he has any). Once you have the credentials, photocopy them and tell him that you are going to double check to make sure that they are valid. If he hasn't crapped his pants and offered to give you your money back by then, I would verify with the state BAR or Board of Immigration Appeals that this guy is legit.

Was this guy trying to pose as an immigration lawyer, accredited representative or what?

He is one Chinese agency who lived in Los Angeles, this payment should be paid upfront, so i have paid him already, after interview, embassy request one cosponsor for I-864 form, i found this guy online,then he gave me one bad cosponsor papers, i sent it to Guangzhou embassy and got declined again.he doesnt say anything, i have one bad feeling, i know i got scammed. i know i am too stupid, when u want something so bad, your mind got messed,he is surfing around one Chinese forum( tianya.cn) each day and try to scam ppl.

but u know i still believe he can get me new cosponsor, he pretended to be nice guy and say dont worry, all problem can be fixed,unfortunately,he is lying again, when i see the pics he sent me for new cosponsor, i know it is not real, for the second cosponsor, embassy request I-134 instead of I-864, i dont know why, but the guy said it is not his fault, i should pay him another payment for I-134, i got so pissed off and say no way, then he become so mean, yell at me on phone and said i can sue him ,he doesnt care, so he can never return my money.

u can look at the guy's business card, just type in Chinese.

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characters in the business card are tradtional chinese characters, so Andy is born in Taiwan? If yes, this is fun game, many Taiwan folk love to play with PRC people, much to their detriment.

the wording in the 221g document is asking, specifically, for a letter explaining why the co-sponsor is willing to engage as a co-sponsor with the petitioner. If you show that agreement to Guangzhou IV, it's my opinion that Guangzhou IV will deny the visa, with this agreement falling into the 'human traffic-ing' guidelines it has to follow.

as to suing Andy - you can always sue anybody. Since it's a material breach on the agreement (joint sponsor not meet the adjudication rules at Guangzhou IV) then you (IMO) should be due a full refund. Andy's refusing to do that, and he's refusing to submit new paperwork on another joint sponsor .

Edited by Darnell

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

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Hi,

This was not written by an attorney.

This is a scam. Pay to find a Joint Sponsor.

yeah,u are right, so i am thinking he is doing fraud contract,

for this paragraph: 4) Party A to Party B for the guarantor is responsible for the application to the official green card petition now, during this

period,if Party B apply for government welfare or relates to the medical expenses will under Party B's responsibility.
he is breaking the government law and do fraud. so if i report this guy to court, he will be put into jail?

Definitely not an attorney's writing, but rather an fobbish individual

just trying to earn few bucks as an immigration agent.

There are lots of problems with the contract for sure.

1) For this, "The amount : US dollar 2800", it doesn't state who's paying who. LOL

2) For "Party A is responsible to provide Party B...at least 3 months of common guarantor's payroll",

Surely he meant 3 paycheck stubs for use as evidence, but this language would suggest that

he'll pay you 3 months of his payroll.

4) This statement "...government welfare or relates to the medical expenses will under party B's responsibility."

completely negates the whole purpose of co-sponsorship.

While it's a goofy contract, if you solicited for such stranger's co-sponsorship and

eventually agreed and signed the contract, I'm not sure what you would get out of him.

In fact, I'm wondering if it's even illegal for you to enter into such contract that

tries to negate the whole purpose of co-sponsorship's responsibility,

yet presented the co-sponsorship paperwork to USCIS like if you've got something legit.

Just a thought...

yeah, u are correct, he is breaking the law and do fraud.

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he is breaking the government law and do fraud. so if i report this guy to court, he will be put into jail?

I suggest reporting to FBI instead of 'court'. Perhaps you meant the district attorney's office?

Are you the petitioner or beneficiary?


Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

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i not see any jurisdiction verbiage for dispute resolution,

so no, this is not a valid contract. that's it, that's all, that will make it not a real contract.

Let's go over other stuff, aye?

1. if this is for you, a uscitizen petitioner chasing a K-1 visa for a fiance, why do you not have enough monies to support the fiance, on I-134 adjudication in guangzhou and I-864 adjudication back at a uscis service center? this is big red flag in my book.

2. wording is not legal-ese - ie - no one went to legalzoom website and made the time to purchase a book of templates, and certainly not make time to copy/paste relevant legal phrasing.

3. is it a scam? could it be a scam? sure! as the intent in the contract is to provide a joint sponsor for I-134 and subsequent I-864 between a uscitizen and an unknown human. who does that? [i'll leave the answer to be self-evident to any reader]

in closing, i'll ask -

do you need a joint sponsor? or are you being co-erced to use this particular joint sponsor by your fiance back in china ? if the latter, something is amiss.

when i start to file k1, i open one account on rapidvisa, he said i have met the income requirment, so i never expect i need one cosponsor, for 2013 tax return, i have made over 16k per year, it has met 100% poverty guidelines under I-864p, but after intervies in Guangzhou, embassy still reqeust cosponsor, i dont know why,maybe embassy still worry my fiancee will be public charge. so we only can accept it and try to find one cosponsor.

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