Exclusive Citizenship Act of 2025

[Tesco 104]

I see the bill now has a co-sponsor!
Here is an interesting interview, where the Senator now says that this would only apply to NEW Naturalised Citizens going forward. If you're born in the U.S, it wouldn't apply either.

https://rumble.com/v7320qc-dual-citizenship-coming-to-an-end-us-senator-bernie-moreno.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

[randomstairs 343]

14 hours ago, Tesco said:

I see the bill now has a co-sponsor!
Here is an interesting interview, where the Senator now says that this would only apply to NEW Naturalised Citizens going forward. If you're born in the U.S, it wouldn't apply either.

https://rumble.com/v7320qc-dual-citizenship-coming-to-an-end-us-senator-bernie-moreno.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

I don't know what's interesting about the interview. He doesn't seem to understand the very issue with the bill. (Or much else other than car-selling.) This isn't reassuring! One more co-sponsor means that there is some movement and given the provision of 1-year period for renunciation, even if one is incapacitated, it would make sense to at least explore renunciation. Some foreign governments don't allow it. Those that do, well, let's see what the procedure is. One co-sponsor is very concerning. The bill is what it is, but that there is one US Senator who is like "yeah, I see no issues with a bill that threatens fundamental constitutional rights of 10-20 million citizens" is concerning.  

Edited Saturday at 09:51 AM by randomstairs

[P055UM 362]

Not too worried about this yet, still. I think it has an uphill journey to 60 senate votes.
 

That said I’m not extremely comfortable with these ideas flying around as someone who is trying to naturalise and seemingly just waiting for I-751 to be approved.

 

Even without a dog in the fight, I am still trying to wrap my head around the perceived ‘benefits’ of this bill. I don’t see any. 

[Crazy Cat 45,886]

40 minutes ago, P055UM said:

Not too worried about this yet, still. I think it has an uphill journey to 60 senate votes.
 

That said I’m not extremely comfortable with these ideas flying around as someone who is trying to naturalise and seemingly just waiting for I-751 to be approved.

 

Even without a dog in the fight, I am still trying to wrap my head around the perceived ‘benefits’ of this bill. I don’t see any. 

You do have a dog in the fight.....This is an ill-conceived, destructive bill. 

Edited Saturday at 04:34 PM by Crazy Cat

[Dashinka 26,353]

7 hours ago, P055UM said:

Not too worried about this yet, still. I think it has an uphill journey to 60 senate votes.
 

That said I’m not extremely comfortable with these ideas flying around as someone who is trying to naturalise and seemingly just waiting for I-751 to be approved.

 

Even without a dog in the fight, I am still trying to wrap my head around the perceived ‘benefits’ of this bill. I don’t see any. 

95% of all the politics in DC or any other major capital around the world have no benefits, perceived or otherwise IMO. 

[Neonred 4,044]

I am watching this too, but not so worried as I think it's going no where but with these politician  you never know.

 

I'm wondering how this might affect my wife.  Around the time she got her US citizenship she needed to renew her Russian passport.  Sent off to the Russian embassy in DC to have them renew it for the second time.  Unfortunately her internal passport was also expired and not renewable in the US.  After several months the embassy let us know they could not renew her Russian passport without extra money and a special search of her history and work background from Russia.  We sent the money and waited.  Again after a few months they said they could not renew her passport even though they had renewed it 5 years prior, saying they could not determine she was a Russian citizen!  I was concerned how this would interfere with her ability to visit her family and friends in Russia and if she would even be able to obtain a visa to Russia in her US passport.  While she was on the phone discussing this with someone at the embassy I had her ask them since they cannot determine she is a Russian citizen can they say that she is NOT a Russian citizen (opening up the possibility that she CAN get the visa to Russia) and their reply was "oh, if you want to renounce your Russian citizenship you need to fill out XYZ form and send us X$ and your CURRENT VALID Russian passport".  We just gave up.  

 

So the question is, is she actually a dual citizen?  She never renounced her Russian citizenship.

 

I assume if this bill succeeded it might just require a form and attestation here in the US.

[Crazy Cat 45,886]

I worry about my wife's situation.  She was a teacher in Taiwan for 28 years, and she receives a teacher's retirement pension......along with income from substantial investments there.  We pay her fair share of US income tax on all of her income....there is no foreign income exclusion for Taiwan.  If I pass on to the great beyond before she does (highly likely), I think she would probably like to reside there.  So, at this point, I don't think she wants to surrender her Taiwanese citizenship (loss of lifetime income) or her US citizenship.  As I see it, this bill (as written) would force the involuntary surrender of one (probably unconstitutional).  Unless the government would re-issue her a Green Card, this bill would cause  grave harm to my wife's future and possibly our future together in the US.  

 

I served in the US military for more than 20 years.  As a veteran, this bill infuriates me.  My wife deserves better than what this bill, as written, does.  I just do not see what the bill accomplishes.  It was ill-conceived and will destroy the lives of millions of LEGAL dual citizens and spouses.

 

My wife has never been out of status a single day.  She entered the US in 2017 via a spousal visa.  She became a US citizen in January 2023.  My wife has never broken the law.  My wife reports her foreign income, and we pay her taxes every year.  My wife has an aging husband (me) here in the US.  This bill undermines the legal process we followed precisely and properly.  As I said, it infuriates me.

 

-  Vent finished....for now.

Edited 15 hours ago by Crazy Cat

[TBoneTX 48,716]

Let's hope that this exceptionally flawed bill goes nowhere.

If it does show further life, we can unload on them with vehement objection and logic.

[Dashinka 26,353]

14 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Let's hope that this exceptionally flawed bill goes nowhere.

If it does show further life, we can unload on them with vehement objection and logic.

“Exceptionally flawed” is an understatement.

[Fr8dog 556]

Originally being from a country that has some form of "single nationality only" on the books since 1892, I've found it interesting when the Dutch politicians started down this path about 2 decades ago. 

The net result of lobbying for over 20 years has been:

- Those who's dual citizenship they want to have removed can't because their second nationality does not allow it.

- Those who's dual citizenship they do not want to have removed for fear of financial flight actually run the risk of loosing it and now they have all sorts of stop caps in place to prevent it.

 

So we are basically looking at the beginning of a awesome dumpster fire or it's going to slowly extinguish when the realize the reults just aren't there. 

 

[Ban Hammer 14,794]

i can only see this being needed for those running for political office.