master thread - Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Ban Hammer 14,478]

as of a post made 6 hours ago on facebook, the number that have lost their job for celebrating the assassination of

charlie kirk was listed as 1283.

[Dashinka 26,116]

23 hours ago, Boiler said:

Taking the BBC number of 150,000 turning out in what was apparently nasty weather, well that is a lot of people. 
 

Maybe the Guardian need to differentiate say between far right, really far right, impossibly far right etc etc.

 

only a few weeks ago they were lauding Palestine Action, a banned terrorist supporting group, and 800 odd? Who were arrested.

 

Well you want this banned, but not your own? What would we call those sort of beliefs.

 

Not going to bother finding it but there was a comment by someone describing himself as a History Professor in the comments, Fascism and 1933 all over again apparently.

 

Adolf had a very low opinion of Fascists and if you had called him one you would have been on a one way trip to the Gas Chamber 

Heard someone essentially labeling the transgendered activist extremist as “neo fascists”.  This was on CBS, so apparently they want to associate these folks with the Right on the political spectrum.

 

20 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I had to google furry. My raised in the 60s and 70s in small town middle Ga mind ain't ready for such nonsense. 

 

Is it drugs? Public school system ?

The MDL.

[Boiler 47,937]

Neo fascist also a term that when I ask people well what do you mean there is a blank no one home response.

[yuna628 9,901]

21 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I had to google furry. My raised in the 60s and 70s in small town middle Ga mind ain't ready for such nonsense. 

 

Is it drugs? Public school system ?

It started in the late 70s-80s. But hey didn't your generation have swingers, hippies, and free love? 

 

But as I've said from my old moderation days before social media was a thing... the very concerning kids back then are now adults and apparently raising their own concerning kids and are as completely dense as their own parents were back then as to what is going on. Kids that feel completely abandoned and isolated will turn to dark corners of the internet and social media for validation and acceptance, and.. well the love they don't believe they have in the 'real world'. They can find validation of their unstable thoughts and feelings. Based on the documents today there was quite a bit of contention between the values and expectations of his father and the person he wanted to be. Everyone wants this killer to fit into some neat little box to exploit, and the truth is the kid was an absolute mess. Lately, there's a been a bunch of these type shooters like this.. individuals who have been exploited online - some by new types of extremist groups that society does not have a handle on.

 

It's hard not to laugh at some of the bizarre clearly insane types that are produced...  at a hearing about Luigi today there was a woman that is adamantly claiming she's in an online AI relationship with him. There's been many articles posted lately about people having 'relationships' with AI. This is similar, it's not a bot convincing someone to kill, but anon users ****posting brain rot to vulnerable kids willing to consume and act on it. The parents will say they had no idea, all the while there was probably warning signs, but they continued to blindly feed guns and online access.

[Ban Hammer 14,478]

remember the guy that authorities jumped on right after the shooting?
i have a strong suspicion he was the designated decoy to distract law enforcement after the shooting and yes, this indicates a conspiracy.

 

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George Zinn, elderly rabble-rouser who falsely claimed he shot Charlie Kirk, is hit with child porn charges

The elderly rabble-rouser who allegedly hindered Utah authorities’ response after Charlie Kirk was fatally shot is now accused of keeping “graphic” sexual photos of children on his phone, according to law enforcement.

more at https://nypost.com/2025/09/16/us-news/george-zinn-old-man-who-falsely-claimed-he-shot-charlie-kirk-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/
 

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George Zinn has apparently been a 'fixture' in Utah since the 1980s. He is regularly on the scene of events (not just political ones) to cause trouble, and has been repeatedly arrested for false claims, trespassing, and obstruction. He's also made bomb and terroristic threats and the LDS has a restraining order against him. The DA sort of nonchalantly refers to him as a 'gadfly'. It is amazing that officials just sort of shrug and act like "that's just crazy old George... he does this a lot.." He admitted to having the porn, and likely did it intentionally. Here's the story of his arrest in 2013 which references his priors in the 80s! https://www.staradvertiser.com/2013/04/23/breaking-news/utah-man-charged-with-making-bomb-threat-at-marathon/