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Hello, 

 

I am posting to ask a question about having a unofficial wedding ceremony prior to my fiancé leaving to enter America on a K1 visa. She has her visa approved and we plan on holding a unofficial wedding ceremony in Japan as her family wishes to hold one. We will not submit the paperwork to the Japanese court system. I looked online and I only see people discuss where they say "Don't do this prior to the approval as it makes it appear as fraud". My case is a little different as we plan on having the official ceremony is America as the K1 Visa permits. 

 

Can I hold an unofficial wedding prior to her getting on a plane to America, as her visa is already approved?

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Don't do it......I would NOT conduct any kind of "marriage ceremony" prior to an official marriage inside the US.  CBP can deny entry at the border.  CBP can search phones, etc. This is not the time to be gaming the system with anything which even looks like a marriage ceremony.  You can return to Japan for a ceremony after new immigrant can travel.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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36 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Don't do it......I would NOT conduct any kind of "marriage ceremony" prior to an official marriage inside the US.  CBP can deny entry at the border.  CBP can search phones, etc. This is not the time to be gaming the system.  You can return to Japan for a ceremony after new immigrant can travel.

 

1000% this.... Don't risk everything you have worked for to get to this point. Like @Crazy Cat said, CBP can deny her entry at the Point of Entry. The visa being approved and issued by the embassy simply allows her to "Apply for admission at a Port of Entry". It does not guarantee that entry.

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"Too married to file an I-129F and qualify for a fiancé visa -- visa refused."  Per above, completely forget the ceremony idea for now.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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20 hours ago, Shibauzer said:

I am posting to ask a question about having a unofficial wedding ceremony prior to my fiancé leaving to enter America on a K1 visa

Have a farewell/engagement party before leaving Japan, invite friends, family, etc. but don't do anything that even resembles a wedding ceremony--no wedding clothing, no cake, no rings, no exchanging vows.  The risk is too great so why play with fire?

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Me and my fiancee at the time did go through an unofficial wedding ceremony in Tokyo in 2022. We later started the process of K-1 visa for her to come to America. There was no problems during our whole immigration process. We also had a lawyer represent us, and she did tell us it was fine, so long as it was explained that it was an unofficial ceremony and not legally binding. We even submitted photos of the ceremony for the visa application. 

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6 minutes ago, valleyofthehills said:

Me and my fiancee at the time did go through an unofficial wedding ceremony in Tokyo in 2022. We later started the process of K-1 visa for her to come to America. There was no problems during our whole immigration process. We also had a lawyer represent us, and she did tell us it was fine, so long as it was explained that it was an unofficial ceremony and not legally binding. We even submitted photos of the ceremony for the visa application. 

You got lucky.  There are plenty of real cases here on VJ which resulted a a denial based on "too married for a K-1" determination by the Consulate.  It happens.   There is a reason we are advising against anything which looks like a marriage ceremony....and the OP even called it that.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Anyone who undergoes any such kind of ceremony is playing with hot fire.  Give no one any room for doubt.  Delay the ceremony.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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