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Just now, sha5ik said:

I am free to live in US until my hearing date, after that immigration court decides if they will terminate the removal or order me to leave the country. 

Really? Does the court order give you authorized stay in the US?   

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

NTA - notice to appear. Otherwise they would have locked me once the first ICE officer came to my house)

You didn't answer the question.  Does the NTA grant you any period of authorized stay?

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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5 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

Well, it is two sides of the same coin. First, I cannot file i-485 form because immigration judge has an authority over it, but I filed I-130 form because USCIS has an authority over this form. Second, I am free to live in US until my hearing date, after that immigration court decides if they will terminate the removal or order me to leave the country. 

If you leave - you will be barred from returning.  Regardless of the NTA allowing an authorized stay.

2 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

NTA - notice to appear. Otherwise they would have locked me once the first ICE officer came to my house)

NTA - if you don't show then there will be a deportation order or you have left the country, the ALJ will close the case as moot.

 

You have had plenty of time to figure this out,

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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2 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

If you leave - you will be barred from returning.  Regardless of the NTA allowing an authorized stay.

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But does the NTA, itself, grant any period of authorized stay......or is OP in danger of detention at any time?  I'm not familiar with how it works.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, Paul & Mary said:

If you leave - you will be barred from returning.  Regardless of the NTA allowing an authorized stay.

NTA - if you don't show then there will be a deportation order or you have left the country, the ALJ will close the case as moot.

 

You have had plenty of time to figure this out,

I am aware about that. I am going to show up to court, and fight my case, and if i can't win, I will leave. 
I was asking if there are any other people who had similar cases, and how long the court took to schedule a hearing. Mine still does not have date

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1 minute ago, sha5ik said:

I am going to show up to court, and fight my case,

Do you have an attorney?  I am curious as to how you fight a case of a 2 year overstay.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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8 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

But does the NTA, itself, grant any period of authorized stay......or is OP in danger of detention at any time?  I'm not familiar with how it works.

Well, basically NTA gives you abit time, and only Justice Court can order a removal. No one from ice or dhs has a right ro detain me or deport.

 

i will prove that my marriage is bona fide and ask the judge to terminate the removal . Yes, i do have an attorney

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1 minute ago, sha5ik said:

Well, basically NTA gives you abit time, and only Justice Court can order a removal. No one from ice or dhs has a right ro detain me or deport.

Are you sure about that?  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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10 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

But does the NTA, itself, grant any period of authorized stay......or is OP in danger of detention at any time?  I'm not familiar with how it works.

From a practical point it does allow the stay until the hearing.  If the immigrant is detained then the NTA is usually quashed and a hearing is done at detention and then removed - at least here in Arizona.  But if the immigrant commits a municipal or state criminal offence it can also be moved up.  In january we saw someone that file an I-130 and continued to work illegally get  removed very quickly. 

 

I don't understand why the OP waited to file so long.   I mean NTA, get married and get legal ASAP.  Granted he can't AOS.  At least there will probably be a Stokes interview if the NTA is quashed.  So a little bit of karma comes into play. 

 

15 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

how long the court took to schedule a hearing. Mine still does not have date

They are taking about a year right now. 

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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6 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Are you sure about that?  

 

8 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

Well, basically NTA gives you abit time, and only Justice Court can order a removal. No one from ice or dhs has a right ro detain me or deport.

Unless in the time between now and Immigration hearing you happen to commit a crime and get arrested, yes.

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1 minute ago, Paul & Mary said:

From a practical point it does allow the stay until the hearing.  If the immigrant is detained then the NTA is usually quashed and a hearing is done at detention and then removed - at least here in Arizona.  But if the immigrant commits a municipal or state criminal offence it can also be moved up.  In january we saw someone that file an I-130 and continued to work illegally get  removed very quickly. 

OK.  Thanks.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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8 minutes ago, sha5ik said:

No one from ice or dhs has a right ro detain me

Well that isn't true.  I hope your attorney didn't tell you that.  There are 5 private prisons and dozens of jails here in Arizona full of people waiting for a hearing.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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8 minutes ago, portorusa said:

 

Unless in the time between now and Immigration hearing you happen to commit a crime and get arrested, yes.

I'm still not sure that ICE is prohibited from detaining someone who has an NTA..........I find it interesting...🙂

7 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Well that isn't true.  I hope your attorney didn't tell you that.  There are 5 private prisons and dozens of jails here in Arizona full of people waiting for a hearing.

That is exactly what I wasn't sure about....thanks for the info.......

Edited by Lucky Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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23 hours ago, sha5ik said:

Hi everyone 👋 Long story short, I overstayed my visa for two years, met amazing woman, and we had plans for wedding at Spring, 2020. Everything was going smooth, until one day in February officer showed up at the door. "Damn" I said, and he only only took my passport and gave me the address where to meet him to pickup my passport. I went there next morning, he gave me NTA (Notice To Appear) to court.  I told my girlfriend about the situation, and we decided to move our plans from spring to February, and we got married. We have filed i-130 8 months later, and received receipt within a week. Funny thing is, i was captured in different state than we live with my wife, so NTA is for that state`s court. Lawyer told me that I cannot file i-485 until my court interview.

So I was looking for advice if anyone else had similar cases, and if yes, how fast was your court scheduled (mines says may 2021, but my A number still not in the system, date is incorrect) 

First and foremost if you got caught somewhere far away from where you live you should motion the court to change venue (motions can generally be filed at any time including right now). Obviously if you live in somewhere like NYC and your hearings are in Newark, NJ that's not that bad, but if you live in California and your hearing is in Florida then that's a problem should your physical presence be required.

 

Anyways, you generally can file I-485 with the court prior to your first hearing, however I definitely understand where the lawyer is coming from. Namely hoping that I-130 will be approved by then and getting a termination so you can file straight up with USCIS. USCIS is also generally a much more friendly forum for the I-485 because you won't have opposing counsel nitpicking at your application.

 

The first hearing will be just a master hearing that'll go over your deportability charges, your relief avenues (i.e. the I-130) and depending on whether it's approved or not the following will happen:

If approved: The judge will either terminate or tell you to file I-485 with the court and set an individual hearing date for you

If still pending: The judge will just issue a continuance and give you another master hearing date in a few months.

If denied: You better get the appeal for it going ASAP. Unlike most other appeals, appeals for I-130s go to the Board of Immigration Appeals.

Contradictions without citations only make you look dumb.

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