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This is not regarding my wifes adjustment of status, but a friend of mine.  Her husband was just appeoved for a K1 visa, but she (the PR) is unemployed.  She is asking how she can use her cousin as a joint sponsor.

 

I just wanna verify i gave her the right info.

 

Country is Vietnam, Cousin is married so thats household of 2 +1 (petitioner) +1 (immigrant) = household of 4.

 

The petitioner will Fill out form I864 even without any income, and list her household size as 4. And list her cousin and wife in the section for income from others in the household.

 

Her cousin will Fill out I864a and list her individual income?

Her cousins wife will also fill out i864a and list her individual income?

 

or since they are married, can just her cousin fill out i864a and list their household income?

 

P.S I have been telling them to join this site fir the past year lol.

Edited by Russel1995

NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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40 minutes ago, K1visaHopeful said:

They all live together? 

no.  But the cousin will be co sponsoring.  


NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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K1 is I 134. Does Vietnam allow joint sponsors?

 

Best bet is to get a job.

Edited by Boiler

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49 minutes ago, Boiler said:

K1 is I 134. Does Vietnam allow joint sponsors?

 

Best bet is to get a job.

Lol. they have been approved for the visa.  Adkustment of status in i864.

 

Yes her best bet is to get a job. issue is.. she is in school.

 

AOS does allow join sponsors.  Did you read my original post? Made it clear their k1 was approved. Now theyre wondering how to do the affidavit and what forms they need.

Edited by Russel1995

NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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3 minutes ago, Russel1995 said:

Lol. they have been approved for the visa.  Adkustment of status in i864.

 

Yes her best bet is to get a job. issue is.. she is in school.

 

AOS does allow join sponsors.  Did you read my original post? Made it clear their k1 was approved. Now theyre wondering how to do the affidavit and what forms they need.

The post was a little confusing to me...

 

"Her husband was just appeoved for a K1 visa, but she (the PR) is unemployed."

PR = Permanent Resident...? But she hasn't completed AOS yet...?

 

"Country is Vietnam, Cousin is married so thats household of 2 +1 (petitioner) +1 (immigrant) = household of 4. "

Why could country matter for AOS with regard to the I-864?

 

That calculation appears incorrect. She only counts her own household size. The petitioner is not included in their household unless they meet one of the specific conditions defined in the I-864 instructions (like being claimed as their dependent on the most recent year's tax transcript).

 

2 hours ago, Russel1995 said:

The petitioner will Fill out form I864 even without any income, and list her household size as 4. And list her cousin and wife in the section for income from others in the household.

 

Her cousin will Fill out I864a and list her individual income?

Her cousins wife will also fill out i864a and list her individual income?

 

or since they are married, can just her cousin fill out i864a and list their household income?

Since they do not live together, they are not eligible to use an I-864A.

 

The petitioner will file an I-864 with their own household size. They will include a copy of the most recent year's tax transcript (unless they were not required to file, in which case they mark the checkbox and state why).

The joint sponsor will complete an I-864 with their own household size. They will include at least a copy of the most year's tax transcript (or full copy of the return) + evidence of their current income.

If the joint sponsor is living with somebody who is a qualifying household member and will be including them, they can provide an I-864A to combine income/assets with the joint sponsor. If they are married and file jointly with a spouse, often an I-864A from the spouse is requested even if they may not have any eligible income of their own.

 

Note the terms underlined above. The petitioner is always the primary sponsor. The joint sponsor's I-864 is entirely separate, and their income/assets are considered separately. A household member can join their income/assets with the matching sponsor (the joint sponsor here).


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent

12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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40 minutes ago, geowrian said:

 

"Her husband was just appeoved for a K1 visa, but she (the PR) is unemployed."

PR = Permanent Resident...? But she hasn't completed AOS yet...?

Petitioner is a permament resident. Not citizen.

 

Correction. Conlletly forgot she did her citizenship in 2017. Her cousin still is a PR (filing her n400 in march)

Edited by Russel1995

NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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44 minutes ago, geowrian said:

The post was a little confusing 

Note the terms underlined above. The petitioner is always the primary sponsor. The joint sponsor's I-864 is entirely separate, and their income/assets are considered separately. A household member can join their income/assets with the matching sponsor (the joint sponsor here).

This was the answer i wa slooking for. thanks.

 

Petitoner fills her i864 with no income, household of 2 (her and her husband)

 

Cousin fillls seperate i864 as a joint sponsor, and lists her wife in the section for other household income. Cousins wife completes i864a.

Edited by Russel1995

NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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Just now, Jorgedig said:

Well then she did not do a K-1.   

You are actually right.. i forgot she did her citizenship  in 2017.

 


NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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14 minutes ago, Russel1995 said:

 

Correction. Completely* forgot she did her citizenship in 2017. Her cousin still is a PR (filing her n400 in march)

 


NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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Ill pass my friends thank you along to those yhat answered the question.

 

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NOTE: Black & Bold = Visa Related

 

02/16/2018: Met online on a mobile game called Guns of Glory

10/03/2018: I129f sent

10/05/2018: NOA1

02/26/2019: NOA2 

03/19/2019: NVC received

03/22/2019: NVC case # assigned

04/02/2019: Consulate received

08/21/2019: Medical - passed on vaccines so insurance can be used in the USA.

08/22/2019: ASC

08/27/2019: Interview -APPROVED!!!

09/11/2019: Entered USA through Chicago O'hare

09/20/2019: Married

10/09/2019: Filed AOS

11/12/2019: Biometric appointment

12/13/2019: RFE (birth certificate)

 

 

Total time spent together before K1 interview: 65 days.

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14 hours ago, Russel1995 said:

no.  But the cousin will be co sponsoring.  

If the additional sponsor does not live with the original sponsor, they are a joint sponsor not a co-sponsor. Incomes cannot be combined.

There will be two separate I864s, each with their own household size to count. Each sponsor will need to meet the poverty guidelines with their individual income for each household size including any dependents and any beneficiaries.

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