Minimum income requirement

[Talo 26]

Hi all,

 

My wife did not reach the minimum income requirement in her 2018 tax return. But now she does. 

 

Is her income for the last couple of months sufficient or should we go with co-sponsorship? Would it be a problem if we go with co-sponsorship just in case or is it better to go with it even if she now meets the requirements?

 

Thanks in advance

[Crazy Cat 39,218]

The consulate officer will consider her whole financial situation when making a determination regarding the public charge issue.......remember that the 125% guideline is just that-  a guideline.......if your wife's current income is not stable or minimally meets the guidelines, it might be beneficial to have a joint sponsor's I-864 and supporting documents ready.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Go get a Joint Sponsor.  

[pushbrk 12,105]

1 hour ago, Talo said:

Hi all,

 

My wife did not reach the minimum income requirement in her 2018 tax return. But now she does. 

 

Is her income for the last couple of months sufficient or should we go with co-sponsorship? Would it be a problem if we go with co-sponsorship just in case or is it better to go with it even if she now meets the requirements?

 

Thanks in advance

No harm in having a joint sponsor, but whether it's needed or not depends on the country and other factors.

[Talo 26]

Thanks to all! I guess we'll go with the joint sponsorship just in case. I was worried it would be problematic to go with it if not needed.

 

 

[Talo 26]

Another quick question. What is the definition of Household member? Her parents are going to co-sponsor. She does not live with them.

[LilyJ 1,258]

1 minute ago, Talo said:

Another quick question. What is the definition of Household member? Her parents are going to co-sponsor. She does not live with them.

Her parents' household number will be them, yourself, and any children they may have in their house if any.

[Talo 26]

2 minutes ago, LilyJ said:

Her parents' household number will be them, yourself, and any children they may have in their house if any.

Thanks for the reply Lily, I'm not sure I follow you though. 

Im on the website https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-4-collect-financial-documents.html

 

They seem to distinguish between household co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864A) and other co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864).

 

The co sponsors are their parents. Which do not live in the same house as her. So I assume they are regular co-sponsors?

[LilyJ 1,258]

1 minute ago, Talo said:

Thanks for the reply Lily, I'm not sure I follow you though. 

Im on the website https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-4-collect-financial-documents.html

 

They seem to distinguish between household co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864A) and other co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864).

 

The co sponsors are their parents. Which do not live in the same house as her. So I assume they are regular co-sponsors?

Yes they are regular co-sponsors, she will not combine her income with them

[Talo 26]

Just now, LilyJ said:

Yes they are regular co-sponsors, she will not combine her income with them

Great. Thanks!

[pushbrk 12,105]

11 minutes ago, Talo said:

Thanks for the reply Lily, I'm not sure I follow you though. 

Im on the website https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-4-collect-financial-documents.html

 

They seem to distinguish between household co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864A) and other co-sponsors (they need to fill I-864).

 

The co sponsors are their parents. Which do not live in the same house as her. So I assume they are regular co-sponsors?

It is helpful to use the proper terminology.  There are no "Cosponsors".  Your spouse is the petitioner/sponsor.  One of her parents will be the only Joint Sponsor, and the other will provide an I-864a as a "household member".  If there are any OTHER household members, they only are "counted" in the household size.  Your wife is not counted in that household size, because she isn't immigrating and is not supported by her parents.  Even if she was living in their house, she's not part of the household size.

 

Become A students of the I-864 instructions.

[Talo 26]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

It is helpful to use the proper terminology.  There are no "Cosponsors".  Your spouse is the petitioner/sponsor.  One of her parents will be the only Joint Sponsor, and the other will provide an I-864a as a "household member".  If there are any OTHER household members, they only are "counted" in the household size.  Your wife is not counted in that household size, because she isn't immigrating and is not supported by her parents.  Even if she was living in their house, she's not part of the household size.

 

Become A students of the I-864 instructions.

Thank you for your response. We are a bit confused however about what evidence will need to be provided for the I-864A. If the mother is the joint sponsor, her household is three people (the father and a disabled adult son). So, will they (the father and son) need to provide the same evidence as in I-864A. Also, I suppose this would mean that they would also have to provide the petitioner's brother's birth certificate and mother's marriage certificate to prove household relation? Pardon my ignorance but this is a bit confusing. 

[pushbrk 12,105]

1 minute ago, Talo said:

Thank you for your response. We are a bit confused however about what evidence will need to be provided for the I-864A. If the mother is the joint sponsor, her household is three people (the father and a disabled adult son). So, will they (the father and son) need to provide the same evidence as in I-864A. Also, I suppose this would mean that they would also have to provide the petitioner's brother's birth certificate and mother's marriage certificate to prove household relation? Pardon my ignorance but this is a bit confusing. 

Perhaps you are confused because you have not yet studied those instructions.  Download them the same place you download the forms.

 

Household relation is clear from the tax returns.  The household is those three plus you.  Unless the son is combining income with the parents, he is only "counted".  I explained this before.  Read those instructions.  Mom and Dad need to provide evidence of their US Citizenship. Usually a birth certificate for each.

[Talo 26]

4 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Perhaps you are confused because you have not yet studied those instructions.  Download them the same place you download the forms.

 

Household relation is clear from the tax returns.  The household is those three plus you.  Unless the son is combining income with the parents, he is only "counted".  I explained this before.  Read those instructions.  Mom and Dad need to provide evidence of their US Citizenship. Usually a birth certificate for each.

Thanks for your reply, we'll read the instructions again and ask if we have further questions.