Jump to content
Bearr

Gathering evidence for I-130 — should I include ALL of our FB messages? There are over 1K pages!

12 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Hi there,

 

We are trying to gather evidence to prove our marriage is bona fide. My husband is Canadian, living in Canada still—I am a US citizen, living in the US.

Because we have never lived together, we do not have many of the suggested items (no joint lease, very little co-mingling of finances, no children...), and are relying heavily on other forms of proof such as photos together, tickets from visits or events we attended together.
EDIT: I also made sure he's my primary beneficiary on life insurance and retirement accounts, and added him to my health insurance policy.

 

We do not have access to any logs of our chat messages from when we first started talking to each other in 2007, but I do have a lot of messages from Facebook (which was our primary method of communication for quite some time). However, when I went to download and export our thread, I realized it is ~1,500 pages. My question is whether I really ought to include all of these in our packet? Or should I maybe take a page or two from each of the years I have logs for?

 

Just trying to avoid a nightmare printing an assembling that monster if it's not even recommended...

Edited by Bearr

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Bearr said:

Hi there,

 

We are trying to gather evidence to prove our marriage is bona fide. My husband is Canadian, living in Canada still—I am a US citizen, living in the US.

Because we have never lived together, we do not have many of the suggested items (no joint lease, very little co-mingling of finances, no children...), and are relying heavily on other forms of proof such as photos together, tickets from visits or events we attended together.
EDIT: I also made sure he's my primary beneficiary on life insurance and retirement accounts, and added him to my health insurance policy.

 

We do not have access to any logs of our chat messages from when we first started talking to each other in 2007, but I do have a lot of messages from Facebook (which was our primary method of communication for quite some time). However, when I went to download and export our thread, I realized it is ~1,500 pages. My question is whether I really ought to include all of these in our packet? Or should I maybe take a page or two from each of the years I have logs for?

 

Just trying to avoid a nightmare printing an assembling that monster if it's not even recommended...

Time spent together is the best evidence of a bonafide marriage.  Please do not send 1500 pages of chats.  It is not required or recommended, and we have even seen cases here be delayed/denied due to what was revealed in the chats.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No, it is definitely not recommended to send 1500 pages of facebook chat logs. Maybe a sampling of messages over time, no more than a hand full per month to show on going communication, but what matters at the outset is evidence to support a bonafide relationship like pictures together in multiple times and settings, vs just chat logs or other tertiary evidence. 1500 pages is just going to delay the adjudication of yours and several other cases besides.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At this stage, the strongest evidence you can provide is that of time spent together, continued communications, and your marriage certificate.  But you don't need all 1500 pages of messages.  I would include a conversation every week or so over the course of your marriage.......at least, that's what we did......


                               :idea:MSC (National Benefits Center) I-751 filers- Please add your data :idea:                          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Id1duRRByZHJmhEzl9N25GqwzcnUyLCR4e4N9W6zGLg/edit#gid=0

 

Retired 20 year US Air Force Missileer (Retired E-8)

Retired Registered Nurse with practice in Labor/Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, Adult Psych

Retired IT Professional, Software Developer, Database Manager

 

Immigration Journey:

  • Texas Service Center after transfer from Nebraska
  • Consulate :Taipei, Taiwan
  • Marriage: 7/30/2015
  • I-130 NOA1 : 4/27/2016
  • I-130 Approved :9/8/2016
  • Case received at NVC: 10/11/2016                               
  • Case # and IIN#: 10/24/2016
  • AOS Fee Invoiced:10/24/2016  
  • AOS Fee Paid:10/25/2016
  • IV Fee Invoiced:10/24/2016  
  • IV Fee Paid:10/25/2016
  • DS-260 Completed: 10/28/16
  • Scan Date:11/9/2016
  • Supervisor review: 12/21/16 
  • Checklist: 1/13/17 
  • Case Complete: 4/10/17
  • Interview Date: 5/8/17 
  • Visa  "ISSUED": 5/10/17
  • Visa and Passport in hand/Flight to USA Booked!!!: 5/12/17  
  • POE Dallas DFW on June 22, 2017
  • SS Card received : 7/3/2017
  • 2-year Green Card received in mail: 7/15/17
  • I751 mailed to Dallas PO Box: 3/28/2019
  • I-797 extension letter  for ROC dated 4/2/2019  MSCxxxxxxxxxx received: 4/6/2019
  • Biometrics apt received for 4/25/2019: on 4/12/2019
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thank you all for your replies, they come as a huge relief!

 

On a somewhat related note, I originally just gathered a handful that showed us together over the years with labels as to the date and setting for each photo. I only have about 20 total at the moment, having tried to limit to 1 or 2 from each year since we started dating in 2010. Is this too few, or an appropriate number?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

More than I sent and actually more than I have of hubs and I together besides wedding photos! Lmao!

 

Canada is low fraud and really easy going with evidence.  One or two photos a year is more than fine. If they can include some family or friends too, even better. 

Dont bother with chat logs.  The photos with the other evidence is fine. 


You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, NikLR said:

More than I sent and actually more than I have of hubs and I together besides wedding photos! Lmao!

 

Canada is low fraud and really easy going with evidence.  One or two photos a year is more than fine. If they can include some family or friends too, even better. 

Dont bother with chat logs.  The photos with the other evidence is fine. 

 

Oh good, even more of a relief. Thank you!

 

We've been together for nearly a decade and are more than ready to be able to live under one roof at last. Naturally, we're pretty eager to mitigate any unnecessary delay to the best of our ability. 🙃

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Bearr said:

Thank you all for your replies, they come as a huge relief!

 

On a somewhat related note, I originally just gathered a handful that showed us together over the years with labels as to the date and setting for each photo. I only have about 20 total at the moment, having tried to limit to 1 or 2 from each year since we started dating in 2010. Is this too few, or an appropriate number?

I wouldn’t send chat logs

 

Time together (trip records, border crossing records),  financial / asset co-mingling (rare for couples who live in different countries),  + all the mandatory documents that are supposed to be included in the petition seem to carry stronger weight than chat logs and photos. 

 

A short summarized timeline of tactically arranged photos would probably get read

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

I wouldn’t send chat logs

 

Time together (trip records, border crossing records),  financial / asset co-mingling (rare for couples who live in different countries),  + all the mandatory documents that are supposed to be included in the petition seem to carry stronger weight than chat logs and photos. 

 

A short summarized timeline of tactically arranged photos would probably get read

Thanks for your reply! Most of our travelling together has been by car since we live fairly close to each other. However, we do cross the border by land almost weekly—do you know if there's an easy way to obtain record of that? The only way I can find is a FOIA request, which the estimation says will take at least 37 days for a "simple" request. I would rather not wait that long to submit if this will not significantly increase the chances of success for our application's acceptance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Bearr said:

Thanks for your reply! Most of our travelling together has been by car since we live fairly close to each other. However, we do cross the border by land almost weekly—do you know if there's an easy way to obtain record of that? The only way I can find is a FOIA request, which the estimation says will take at least 37 days for a "simple" request. I would rather not wait that long to submit if this will not significantly increase the chances of success for our application's acceptance.

hmmm.....I visited my wife Once.  When we got married.  We were fine.

 

They don’t stamp your passport?

 

Try this site

 

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov

 

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/#/history-search

 

Or google US travel history and find that link.

 

For fun I googled Nitas info - it instantly showed every departure/arrival since 2015

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Nitas_man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

hmmm.....I visited my wife Once.  When we got married.  We were fine.

 

They don’t stamp your passport?

 

Try this site

 

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov

 

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/#/history-search

 

Or google US travel history and find that link.

 

For fun I googled Nitas info - it instantly showed every departure/arrival since 2015

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, I'm afraid they do not stamp passports for land crossing between US and Canada!

 

 

Thank you for the link. Searching for my own info did not turn anything up, but I will try my husband's once he is done with work. Thanks again for your help and support. 🙂

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, Bearr said:

No, I'm afraid they do not stamp passports for land crossing between US and Canada!

 

 

Thank you for the link. Searching for my own info did not turn anything up, but I will try my husband's once he is done with work. Thanks again for your help and support. 🙂

Your info would not be on this site.  His should be.

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -


Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...