Printout of case acceptance as proof of legal status

[Springleaf 37]

I called USCIS as I have not received my NOA for I-751 and my card is expiring on 2/28.

 

The representative at the other end told me that

a. If police ask me for evidence of my legal status at any time, i can show them my green card and printout of my case acceptance notice from  https://myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/

b.My employment continuation should not be affected by this

 

I could not get InfoPass appointment as they are only allowing it for people whose employment will be affected or other emergency. 

I have already filed e-request.

 

Does anyone know if "a" is indeed correct? I felt like he was rushing to finish call and so i am not confident of this.

He also told me if I have a brush with law, then i can get infopass appointment and they can't deny giving me stamp,

But then also said that i should avoid police. So i am at a loss to understand if what he told was true or not.

 

[MohU3 57]

Well, Police and local authorities don't have anything to do with your legal status, even if your're arrested. If you talking about driving, that's different story. All the police need to see is a valid DL which you get from the DMV by showing your legal status, if this is the case then a print put from your USCIS account wouldn't work. If you've been waiting a long time for the NOA then your best shot is to get an infoPass and get a stamp which will be good for a year and during this year you'll get your 18-months extension for sure or worst case scenario is to get another stamp for another year. If I were you I would go and get a stamp in the passport to renew your DL and have a proof of a legal status for a year.

[Springleaf 37]

2 minutes ago, MohU3 said:

Well, Police and local authorities don't have anything to do with your legal status, even if your're arrested. If you talking about driving, that's different story. All the police need to see is a valid DL which you get from the DMV by showing your legal status, if this is the case then a print put from your USCIS account wouldn't work. If you've been waiting a long time for the NOA then your best shot is to get an infoPass and get a stamp which will be good for a year and during this year you'll get your 18-months extension for sure or worst case scenario is to get another stamp for another year. If I were you I would go and get a stamp in the passport to renew your DL and have a proof of a legal status for a year.

Please re-read my post. I am not able to get InfoPass. I cannot renew my DL in GA till I get my notice.

In Georgia there have been instances of ICE raids on restaurants in past 1 -year, hence the question.

I don't even have to drive in order to face this issue.

[MohU3 57]

26 minutes ago, Springleaf said:

get infopass appointment and they can't deny giving me stamp,

ICE raids are serious. I thought you were talking about regular police or local authorities. As for ICE, You need to know that the stamp or the receipt notice or whatever you get from the USCIS is only a proof of status not the status itself. As for the status, You are permanent resident until a judge says otherwise. So for an ICE raid they can't detain you even if you don't have anything to show them, because with a small check on your name they will find that you are PR. I would try to walk in to the nearest field office and show them that your Green card will expire very soon and that you need a stamp for an emergency travel or something.

[Springleaf 37]

20 minutes ago, MohU3 said:

ICE raids are serious. I thought you were talking about regular police or local authorities. As for ICE, You need to know that the stamp or the receipt notice or whatever you get from the USCIS is only a proof of status not the status itself. As for the status, You are permanent resident until a judge says otherwise. So for an ICE raid they can't detain you even if you don't have anything to show them, because with a small check on your name they will find that you are PR. I would try to walk in to the nearest field office and show them that your Green card will expire very soon and that you need a stamp for an emergency travel or something.

Thanks for the additional info.

My nearest field office does not allow walkins.

 

Do you have info about who enforces the following

 

If you are 18 or older, you do have to carry your green card with you. Section 264(e) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) requires all lawful permanent residents (LPRs) to have “at all times” official evidence of LPR status.

e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties

Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d). Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

 

[H-M 169]

1 hour ago, Springleaf said:

I called USCIS as I have not received my NOA for I-751 and my card is expiring on 2/28.

 

The representative at the other end told me that

a. If police ask me for evidence of my legal status at any time, i can show them my green card and printout of my case acceptance notice from  https://myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/

b.My employment continuation should not be affected by this

 

I could not get InfoPass appointment as they are only allowing it for people whose employment will be affected or other emergency. 

I have already filed e-request.

 

Does anyone know if "a" is indeed correct? I felt like he was rushing to finish call and so i am not confident of this.

He also told me if I have a brush with law, then i can get infopass appointment and they can't deny giving me stamp,

But then also said that i should avoid police. So i am at a loss to understand if what he told was true or not.

 

Printout of the case acceptance webpage from the USCIS site is not proof of legal status. Your gut feeling was correct, the CS representative was trying to get you off the call and gave you false information (They do this all the time!). 

For conditional residents, only the following documents are proof of your valid LPR status:

• Unexpired GC (I-551)
• Expired 2yr GC + NOA1 (Extension) letter
• I-551 (ADIT) Stamp on passport or on Form I-94

Edited February 27, 2019 by H-M

[Duncan21 202]

1 hour ago, Springleaf said:

I called USCIS as I have not received my NOA for I-751 and my card is expiring on 2/28.

 

The representative at the other end told me that

a. If police ask me for evidence of my legal status at any time, i can show them my green card and printout of my case acceptance notice from  https://myaccount.uscis.dhs.gov/

b.My employment continuation should not be affected by this

 

I could not get InfoPass appointment as they are only allowing it for people whose employment will be affected or other emergency. 

I have already filed e-request.

 

Does anyone know if "a" is indeed correct? I felt like he was rushing to finish call and so i am not confident of this.

He also told me if I have a brush with law, then i can get infopass appointment and they can't deny giving me stamp,

But then also said that i should avoid police. So i am at a loss to understand if what he told was true or not.

 

I think you should call back and speak to another representative.  The level of service/support is definitely not consistent across the board with the representatives.  They can request for your NOA to be printed and mailed.

[Springleaf 37]

Just now, Duncan21 said:

I think you should call back and speak to another representative.  The level of service/support is definitely not consistent across the board with the representatives.  They can request for your NOA to be printed and mailed.

I did not mention this as i wanted pointed information. But i have already called and they have filed a request for duplicate notice to be sent (this request expired today,hence the call). 

But now they are saying that i should wait for 2 more weeks.

[H-M 169]

7 minutes ago, Springleaf said:

Thanks for the additional info.

My nearest field office does not allow walkins.

 

Do you have info about who enforces the following

 

If you are 18 or older, you do have to carry your green card with you. Section 264(e) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) requires all lawful permanent residents (LPRs) to have “at all times” official evidence of LPR status.

e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties

Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d). Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

 

Firstly, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

 

INA Section 264(e) / 8 USC §1304(e) is part of Federal law. In general, it can be enforced by any Federal law enforcement agency, usually it would be done by CBP & ICE. This specific provision has been on the books since 1940 and historically it is not widely enforced. But things are different these days unfortunately.

 

CBP has jurisdiction anywhere within 100 miles of a land or sea US border or at the Ports of Entry (International Airports). They can do random traffic stops & check your immigration status. If you have driven through Southern Texas, New Mexico & Arizona, CBP has checkpoints on Interstates & US highways where they stop everyone (including US Citizen) and ask your status.

 

ICE has jurisdiction all over the US, they usually go after aliens with removal orders or criminal convictions. They can do random worksite enforcement,  however they do not (& also cannot) conduct traffic stops randomly. 

 

In addition, I know there are atleast 2 states (Arizona & Alabama, not sure about Georgia) where under state law, local police can ask for your immigration status during a traffic stop.

 

Additional information:

https://www.murthy.com/2017/03/08/requirement-to-carry-immigration-documents/

[Springleaf 37]

1 hour ago, H-M said:

Firstly, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

 

INA Section 264(e) / 8 USC §1304(e) is part of Federal law. In general, it can be enforced by any Federal law enforcement agency, usually it would be done by CBP & ICE. This specific provision has been on the books since 1940 and historically it is not widely enforced. But things are different these days unfortunately.

 

CBP has jurisdiction anywhere within 100 miles of a land or sea US border or at the Ports of Entry (International Airports). They can do random traffic stops & check your immigration status. If you have driven through Southern Texas, New Mexico & Arizona, CBP has checkpoints on Interstates & US highways where they stop everyone (including US Citizen) and ask your status.

 

ICE has jurisdiction all over the US, they usually go after aliens with removal orders or criminal convictions. They can do random worksite enforcement,  however they do not (& also cannot) conduct traffic stops randomly. 

 

In addition, I know there are atleast 2 states (Arizona & Alabama, not sure about Georgia) where under state law, local police can ask for your immigration status during a traffic stop.

 

Additional information:

https://www.murthy.com/2017/03/08/requirement-to-carry-immigration-documents/

In recent times more and more GA districts have signed up to assist ICE. So, it is a really a coin toss as to how police can behave here.

A Canadian woman was jailed recently for not carrying her passport and driving on Canadian license. (This is actually legal)

So,I just don't want to take any chances with gray area status and no valid ID to carry around.

 

I don't think Tier-2 officers are helping either as i have talked to them twice and they mention 2 more weeks or 1 more month to wait for notice and till now my file is not touched.

 

So, i am taking your advice and mailing our congressman.

 

Thanks a lot for all your guidance.

[Georgia16 2,858]

When did you file your ROC? 

[Lemonslice 4,553]

14 hours ago, MohU3 said:

ICE raids are serious. I thought you were talking about regular police or local authorities. As for ICE, You need to know that the stamp or the receipt notice or whatever you get from the USCIS is only a proof of status not the status itself. As for the status, You are permanent resident until a judge says otherwise. So for an ICE raid they can't detain you even if you don't have anything to show them, because with a small check on your name they will find that you are PR. I would try to walk in to the nearest field office and show them that your Green card will expire very soon and that you need a stamp for an emergency travel or something.

How can you be so sure he wouldn't be detained, when ICE has detained plenty of legal permanent residents and even US citizens at times?

[Springleaf 37]

4 hours ago, Georgia16 said:

When did you file your ROC? 

Jan 11. It is my signature too. 

My center is SRC

[Springleaf 37]

58 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

How can you be so sure he wouldn't be detained, when ICE has detained plenty of legal permanent residents and even US citizens at times?

I had a friend wrongfully incarcerated last week by police for DUI. so, to say the least i dont have confidence in law enforcement in this city. 

May be i am more anxious due to that too. 

 

I just want to make sure to cover all my bases.

[Georgia16 2,858]

12 minutes ago, Springleaf said:

Jan 11. It is my signature too. 

My center is SRC

Can’t see that from phone. 

 

Well I’ll that is definitely also cutting it late when you need your DL. 

Hope you get your copy of extension letter soon! SRC have been pretty quick at getting them out.