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So I’m looking at what it takes to be married after my fiancé arrives next year, namely getting a marriage license and social security number.

 

I’m getting married in Miami-Dade county and all it takes for identification from my fiancé is a passport without a social security card needed (some stares apparently require it) interestingly while I go to the county clerks office for a marriage license for it to be effective immediately we need to take a 4 hour premarital course or wait 3 days for the license to be effective to get married....that’s good to know...the latter maybe like buyers remorse prevention 

 

the thing I’m unsure of is the recommendation to wait two weeks to get a social security number, I read to wait two weeks so your I-94 record (and unexpired) is updated in a save-asvi database but so many here are doing this it right away. Is this ok? Oh and bring the long RM 10211.530 list with us to the social security office.

 

one other question, once you get the the social security office to obtain a social number, do you get the number right away then wait for the card or wait for both to be sent to you?

 

For the Mods-The K1 SS5 form you guys show linkable doesn’t bring up the SS5 form just a list of other documents...FYI

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The recommended process is SS Card -> Marriage -> Updated SS card in a new name (if your name changes due to marriage). The reason for this is it ensures you can get an SSN....the name on the card is secondary. Sometimes the SSA staff will refuse to issue an SSN once married until you have documentation from DHS such as an EAD or green card. They aren't supposed to do that, but it happens.

 

Typically one is in the system within a few days nowadays. But you can wait if you want.

NOTE: You must apply for the SSN with at least 14 days or more of legal status remaining (even for a name change). Otherwise you need an EAD or green card to get a card / new card.

 

1 hour ago, LarryHickman said:

I’m getting married in Miami-Dade county and all it takes for identification from my fiancé is a passport without a social security card needed (some stares apparently require it)

No states require an SSN to marry. Some require an SSN to be provided if you have one, but visitors and undocumented immigrants can marry fine...that's a civil matter, not an immigration one.

 

1 hour ago, LarryHickman said:

one other question, once you get the the social security office to obtain a social number, do you get the number right away then wait for the card or wait for both to be sent to you

You wait for it to arrive.

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Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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9 hours ago, geowrian said:

The recommended process is SS Card -> Marriage -> Updated SS card in a new name (if your name changes due to marriage). The reason for this is it ensures you can get an SSN....the name on the card is secondary. Sometimes the SSA staff will refuse to issue an SSN once married until you have documentation from DHS such as an EAD or green card. They aren't supposed to do that, but it happens.

 

Typically one is in the system within a few days nowadays. But you can wait if you want.

NOTE: You must apply for the SSN with at least 14 days or more of legal status remaining (even for a name change). Otherwise you need an EAD or green card to get a card / new card.

 

No states require an SSN to marry. Some require an SSN to be provided if you have one, but visitors and undocumented immigrants can marry fine...that's a civil matter, not an immigration one.

 

You wait for it to arrive.

Thanks geowrian, how soon after POE should my fiancé and I go to obtain the social security number?

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2 hours ago, LarryHickman said:

Thanks geowrian, how soon after POE should my fiancé and I go to obtain the social security number?

We waited a few days just in case. If they are in SAVE and can pull up their I-94 online, they should be good to go.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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4 hours ago, geowrian said:

We waited a few days just in case. If they are in SAVE and can pull up their I-94 online, they should be good to go.

Ok thanks geowrian, we will wait a few days after POE to go by the SS office, we will do this before marriage, thanks 

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Moved from K1 Progress Reports to Moving to the US and Your New Life In America forum; topic is about issues post POE.


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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On 12/8/2018 at 5:10 PM, LarryHickman said:

Ok thanks geowrian, we will wait a few days after POE to go by the SS office, we will do this before marriage, thanks 

we waited 2 weeks(following the rules) but still not in SAVE system, we ended up doing manual verification and we got SSN in 2.5 weeks. so don't waste time, just go and do it as soon as you have your I-94. good luck!


AOS/EAD/AP ->: 11/29/18 - NOA1: 12/04/18

Biometric NOA:  12/14/18  Biometric Appt: 12/26/18

EAD/AP approval: 

AOS Interview Appt: 

 

"It's true, we don't have it as easy as ordinary couples. But this is no ordinary love"

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