Failure to establish sufficient ties to the Philippines

[Jim356278 1]

I am  US citizen living permanently in the Philippines. Traveling to the US for surgery. My live in partner was denied a tourist visa for failing to prove she would not stay in the us. She will assist me through recovery and in the trip back. 30 days estimated stay. The counselor asked her if we had kids. We do nit and so she said no......but she has two kids whom live with us. She failed to tell the counselor that. She does not work and I’m funding her trip to the us. We both have full intention of coming back. I have children of my own here. Would it make sense to reapply and during the reapplication interview, have my partner make it clear to the counselor that she has children (11 and 13 years old) whom she must return to care for?

 

 

[az2014 381]

Counselor?

 

Why would she say no if she has 2 kids? Makes no sense.

 

She can reapply as often as she wants but with a previous denial it will be even harder to get approved.

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18 minutes ago, Jim356278 said:

I am  US citizen living permanently in the Philippines. Traveling to the US for surgery. My live in partner was denied a tourist visa for failing to prove she would not stay in the us. She will assist me through recovery and in the trip back. 30 days estimated stay. The counselor asked her if we had kids. We do nit and so she said no......but she has two kids whom live with us. She failed to tell the counselor that. She does not work and I’m funding her trip to the us. We both have full intention of coming back. I have children of my own here. Would it make sense to reapply and during the reapplication interview, have my partner make it clear to the counselor that she has children (11 and 13 years old) whom she must return to care for?

 

 

The children sound a bit young to be left behind.

[Jim356278 1]

The question posed was “do you two have kids”. She took the question as children between us. She had kids from a previous relationship. Not from me. Hence, she answered no. If she were to reapply and make it clear she does have children, would that be sufficient to warrant favorable reconsideration?

Yes, her children are young. Her mom will fly over to stay with them while I have surgery in the us. 

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4 minutes ago, Jim356278 said:

The question posed was “do you two have kids”. She took the question as children between us. She had kids from a previous relationship. Not from me. Hence, she answered no. If she were to reapply and make it clear she does have children, would that be sufficient to warrant favorable reconsideration?

Yes, her children are young. Her mom will fly over to stay with them while I have surgery in the us. 

Most unlikely, sounds like the child care situation is taken care of.

[Jim356278 1]

Sad really. Having surgery is no fun to begin with, never mind having it alone. Somethings, I guess, I will just never understand. You try to do right and just get slapped. Even sadder, there

is no recourse or even a venue to properly state your case. Sigh......

[TNJ17 1,329]

I don’t think that change would make a difference. She probably got denied because she doesn’t have a job securing her in her country. You need to show strong ties to your country otherwise they will deny it. She’s probably got a red flag for them because she’s in a relationship with a USC who is going back to the US (regardless if you’re coming back or not) and they’re thinking she wants to immigrate on a tourist visa without going through the immigrate loops. 

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Did she simply answer with "No" and did not try to clarify?

 

Any effort now would seem like she is just changing her answer.

[Jim356278 1]

2 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Did she simply answer with "No" and did not try to clarify?

 

Any effort now would seem like she is just changing her answer.

She just said no. No clairifacation. 

[Jim356278 1]

So, judging by the comments, appears not a thing we can do. :-( thanks for commenting.  I appreciate it.....

[MacUK 983]

They could also be thinking that "assisting you through your recovery" could be classed as work and not allowed as a tourist.

[geowrian 22,341]

Yeah, the chances of getting a tourist visa from the Philippines with those circumstances is near zero. No job, relationship to USC, can't fund her own trip, and potentially acting as a caretaker in the US...it's not going to happen. The children aspect was not the piece that broke the camel's back (and trying to fix that answer for any visa later may be a problem IMO).

[Jim356278 1]

9 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Yeah, the chances of getting a tourist visa from the Philippines with those circumstances is near zero. No job, relationship to USC, can't fund her own trip, and potentially acting as a caretaker in the US...it's not going to happen. The children aspect was not the piece that broke the camel's back (and trying to fix that answer for any visa later may be a problem IMO).

So what options are there? Sounds

like none. Pretty crappy really.....

[geowrian 22,341]

1 minute ago, Jim356278 said:

So what options are there? Sounds

like none. Pretty crappy really.....

To visit? None practically. She can reapply but the result is not going to change at least until her circumstances change.

 

Yeah, it is. Too many Filipinos have abused tourist visas and made it hard for those who want to just visit.

[Jim356278 1]

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

To visit? None practically. She can reapply but the result is not going to change at least until her circumstances change.

 

Yeah, it is. Too many Filipinos have abused tourist visas and made it hard for those who want to just visit.

So it seems... I wasnt even allowed in to speak with tne Consular. To better explain. Im certain my partner was shaking to death being so nervous and intimidated.  I was hoping to have had  an opportunity to better communicate the facts. I’m very disappointed and really hurt how this system is set up.  I have no loved ones in the US and now have to deal with major surgery alone.  Something I thought would be easy...  Thanks....